Site Supporter Zico 1,840 Posted January 10, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: That sort of makes my point. That fella yesterday published an inaccurate piece. Now this. On top of the BN. Too much inaccuracy. Just wish he would stop with the smoke and mirrors and give them no ammo. I sometimes wonder if he enjoys the "game". It's just him trying to ingratiate himself with the fans by making up stuff to sound good Keeps happening, keeps turning out to be bollocks His other tactic is going out his way to make folk look bad to make himself look better Our very own Donald Trump Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tyldesley_white 169 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Biganddaft said: So me getting the date wrong needs a "for fucks sake" calm the fuck down Look not my fault you are hard of reading Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket 1,634 Posted January 10, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: It's just him trying to ingratiate himself with the fans by making up stuff to sound good Keeps happening, keeps turning out to be bollocks His other tactic is going out his way to make folk look bad to make himself look better Our very own Donald Trump Agree entirely. He's very good. I've thought for a while how much some of this is Trump like. I've really wanted to get behind him, despite the concerns from the beginning. Plenty of good argument to say he has done well, but it seems cracks are appearing. I really hope I'm wrong, but it worries me what might be revealed later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderators Casino 2,411 Posted January 10, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Biganddaft said: Can I ask why you always seem to be excusing him? 1 I don't think there's a better option than him 2 I get pissed off when folk go off on a rant when they are quite clearly not grasping the limited facts that we have Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Site Supporter Spider 2,188 Posted January 10, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2019 I’ve given up. Ken clearly has lost the plot. For me, his downfall has been his decision to engage with the fans. sometimes, it’s just better to say fuck all. The real problem is that we could stay in this comical limbo for years. I just want us to beat Bristol. Anything else is now a sideshow that will do its own thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dazl1212 27 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, jules_darby said: Won’t stop the cunts moaning and making up reasons tone pissed off Oh and Keith Twatting Andrews can do one n all. Yes he can, shit signings like him, on daft contracts are why we're in the shit in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sluffy 222 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 31 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: Fuck me It doesn't matter what he did with the money he paid himself, the fact is he paid himself And the point is on more than one occasion he said he didn't pay himself a wage as if to make it clear he was not receiving any monetary reward for the job he was doing And now it turns out it's a fee which included a bonus! It's in the accounts for 2016/17, so it's a fee over the course of a year, because it spread over two years doesn't mean it's 260k a year, it's not 24 calendar months To be pedantic he is correct in saying he's not paid himself a wage - he paid himself as a consultant - the difference being if he paid himself a wage the club would have had to had shouldered the employers tax burden, which instead was passed on to KA's company. Ok it probably was deliberately misleading but not actually a lie (weasel words maybe) and fwiw better for the club to have been paid that way. You are correct that the accounts are for a twelve month period but KA clear states the payment was for consultancy for 2016 and 2017 and as such I assume he was shown as a creditor of the club in the 2015/16 accounts with settlement in full for both the two financial years falling in the 2016/17 accounts. Therefore it certain doesn't imply that he's taken a further half million as most people believe for 2017/18 and 2018/19 financial years as many people clearly believe he has (we won't know either way until the accounts are published in due course). I'm not trying to be an apologist for KA but merely trying to give a reasoned explanation of what was said about these points. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ani 1,206 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, ZicoKelly said: It's just him trying to ingratiate himself with the fans by making up stuff to sound good Keeps happening, keeps turning out to be bollocks His other tactic is going out his way to make folk look bad to make himself look better Our very own Donald Trump The Trump comparison is depressingly accurate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Site Supporter Zico 1,840 Posted January 10, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Sluffy said: weasel words Finally! it felt like it took a while, but we got there in the end Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tombwfc 157 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Well the last accounts were for the year ending 30th June 2017, so at the very least he sorted his bonus out first. On the 2nd of July that year Ken said he'd witheld paying the players bonuses on time (reported to be 500k) because of the ongoing dispute with Deano and BluMarble, and because of cash flow issues at that time of year. The retained players received their money a couple of days after that, while the 9+ players we released were told they'd have theirs by the 7th. That didn't happen, and maybe it never did - Moxey's wife said on Monday that he and many others are still owed money from that period. Edited January 10, 2019 by Tombwfc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gumbo 28 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 G’day all. Firstly it was great to see so many of you wonderful loyal supporters whilst back over Christmas. Amongst the less fortunate... we have some top blokes who watch our team. Now to my point from a far. Whilst The current men at the helm seem to be les than competent in dealing with our clubs financial issues, did the demise of our club not begin when Alan Duckworth was removed from his post? Or do many supporters just have short term memories and only want to lay the blame at the foot of the current Chairman’s door? see you all soon Gumbo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boltondiver 1,408 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tombwfc said: Well the last accounts were for the year ending 30th June 2017, so at the very least he sorted his bonus out first. On the 2nd of July that year Ken said he'd witheld paying the players bonuses on time (reported to be 500k) because of the ongoing dispute with Deano and BluMarble, and because of cash flow issues at that time of year. The retained players received their money a couple of days after that, while the 9+ players we released were told they'd have theirs by the 7th. That didn't happen, and maybe it never did - Moxey's wife said on Monday that he and many others are still owed money from that period. Moxey? Owed money?! Cheeky get. Edited January 11, 2019 by boltondiver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Site Supporter Biggish Dave 567 Posted January 11, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Gumbo said: G’day all. Firstly it was great to see so many of you wonderful loyal supporters whilst back over Christmas. Amongst the less fortunate... we have some top blokes who watch our team. Now to my point from a far. Whilst The current men at the helm seem to be les than competent in dealing with our clubs financial issues, did the demise of our club not begin when Alan Duckworth was removed from his post? Or do many supporters just have short term memories and only want to lay the blame at the foot of the current Chairman’s door? see you all soon Gumbo Good to see you mate - glad you even managed to see two rare beauties, goals and a win. Not sure when AD was potted but alarm bells should have been ringing back in the 2004 cup final when fat Sam was told we couldn’t afford to play in Europe. We’ve been in shit street for years but the premier league money papered over a hell of a lot of cracks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonzo 3,045 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Biganddaft said: That's fair enough and I understand where u are coming from, I am not educated enough to understand the ins and outs of business. I am just tired of the relentless negative news day in day out, I thought the email I received today was ridiculous and stupid, to mention giving himself a bonus when people have not been paid on time is at the least thoughtless, anyway I don't agree with the demonstration I think it's pointless and childish, and I realise Anderson is all we have at the moment, that said the guy worries me You need to ask yourself where the constant feed of negative news comes from, their links and agenda. Divide and Conquer in action. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Site Supporter Zico 1,840 Posted January 11, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 11, 2019 12 hours ago, jules_darby said: Won’t stop the cunts moaning and making up reasons tone pissed off Oh and Keith Twatting Andrews can do one n all. just seen this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderators Casino 2,411 Posted January 11, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 11, 2019 utter shithouse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leyther_Matt 371 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Surely a circus would be the right environment for a clown like him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Site Supporter Spider 2,188 Posted January 11, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 11, 2019 Keith Andrews is trying to make it as a pundit is he not? Bland comments doth butter no parsnips. If it helps him get more telly work, he'll say anything inflammatory. Best ignored. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boltondirtbag 6 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) I agree he s a shithouse but is he saying anything that we don’t know about coyle’s reign ?? i don’t know any of the ‘facts’ from that time but table tennis competitions, no proper training etc etc were all the stories coming out then. which most of us believe were true to provide balance though how the fuc does he have a show like that !!! Edited January 11, 2019 by boltondirtbag Spelling error Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freds dad 196 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Casino said: utter shithouse A bit unfair on shithouses. Keith Andrews was one of worst players I've seen play for us and I've seen some bad un's. At the end he mentioned that he was a pundit for WBA game. Lets hope he gets some stick form the crowd for his comments. Edited January 11, 2019 by freds dad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mounts Kipper 2,555 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) Calling out KA for unsavory comments then jumps in with his own, then Kilbane says BWFC we’re paying players silly money who didn’t deserve that type of money, well you’ve one in front of you Kevin in Andrews, utterly bog standard player. Edited January 11, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freds dad 196 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Lots of graphs and things to show how much trouble we are in. http://priceoffootball.com/bolton-wanderers-whats-the-frequency-kenneth/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket 1,634 Posted January 11, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 11, 2019 What a cunt. If things were so bad, why didn't you take it upon yourself to improve things, lead by example. Iirc Youri impressed with his ethic of training and work. These can have a positive influence. This mon: " it was shite, so I just went along with it" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Site Supporter Spider 2,188 Posted January 11, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, freds dad said: Lots of graphs and things to show how much trouble we are in. http://priceoffootball.com/bolton-wanderers-whats-the-frequency-kenneth/ All of which proves that we shouldn't realistically still be operating as a business. To any potential buyers, it's like buying a five pound note for a grand. If Ken wants us to liquidate, he could do it any time he wants based on those numbers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snowball 344 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 24 minutes ago, freds dad said: Lots of graphs and things to show how much trouble we are in. http://priceoffootball.com/bolton-wanderers-whats-the-frequency-kenneth/ Although depressing reading that clearly (or simply for me) explains our finances over the last decade better than any I've seen. If Iles was such an 'esteemed' journalist he would be trying to explain this but then again perhaps the Bolton News isn't for those who want the real story, can't see the BN Letter Writers taking that in. As for Keith Andrews what a shithouse. He gave absolutely nothing to the team at least if we are going to be slagged off let it be by a player who deserved better, whatever we payed him was way too much. Now he's suddenly a pundit as well, why? Do Sky have to keep up a quota of bogtrotters or something even his hair annoys me. Anyway one good thing if he's a pundit next Monday I'm definitely not stopping home watching it, I'll get down and hopefully get to shout some abuse at the useless prick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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