Big E Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Something’s not right with the team. It’s not just players not being good enough. There is something wrong. To deny that is mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Henry loyd after a spare ticket if anyone has one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Something’s not right with the team. It’s not just players not being good enough. There is something wrong. To deny that is mental. Yeah there is. We keep losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 22, 2018 Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2018 Something’s not right with the team. It’s not just players not being good enough. There is something wrong. To deny that is mental. Really does seem to me that they stopped playing/performing after villa when everyone thought we were safe There were no issues in the second half when having a go against barnsley and the reactions to our goals shows they want this I just think complacency crept in, confidence has gone and parky is at a loss as to how to get their heads straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwen_white Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 It was the international break. Something must've happened behind the scenes IMO. Maybe players or Parky got tapped up. Let's face it, we were heading for mid table at that point. At first I thought it was just a pisser to have to wait two weeks for the Leeds game but as I say, I reckon something happened. If we'd beaten Villa on Good Friday, then played Leeds on Easter Monday, we would've got a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 22, 2018 Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2018 Aye Maybe folk started thinking about next season and got told something they didn't want to hear, or something they did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Pratley ran himself into the ground yesterday, with the exception of Alf the rest looked like they didn’t want to be there I didn't get that impression at all. Ameobi, Morais, Beevers, Ptatley, Robinson, even Buckley looked well up for it in the 1st half. I just dont see the lack of effort others see ( I make an exception for walker in his last appearance). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 It was the international break. Something must've happened behind the scenes IMO. Maybe players or Parky got tapped up. Let's face it, we were heading for mid table at that point. At first I thought it was just a pisser to have to wait two weeks for the Leeds game but as I say, I reckon something happened. If we'd beaten Villa on Good Friday, then played Leeds on Easter Monday, we would've got a result. Hard to disagree with this. Really wouldn’t surprise me if Ken started contract talks with some and low balled them and pissed them off. It’s quite likely as there was talk of contracts round about then. Doesn’t take much, just a few being pissed off and dropping a few percentage points to go from Villa to what we see now. Fine margins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 The whole team is out of form, a poor team really struggling. Vela has seemingly got worse once Madine went. Long balls to alf often see him in no man's land chasing defenders as they pick up our long balls and start their own possession. Last year at least we had some ball and created some chances. This season; nowt. I'm reluctant to single any one of them out for heavy praise or heavy criticism, as for me the issue is on the training pitch. I'm not sure anyone is out of form, apart from possibly Henry who was excellent until his injury. Ameobi and ALF are playing at an acceptable level (a cut above the rest), Morais and Noone do good things whenever I see them (but PP has used Buckley and Vela more, unfortunately). Pratley isn't a championship player, neither is Taylor and arguably Beevers. Vela definitely isn't. So for me this is the level they play at, it's up to parky to pick the better players, and yesterday was near to his best 11 with ameobi finally in his best position. It gives me some hope for the last 2 especially if noone replaces Buckley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Really does seem to me that they stopped playing/performing after villa when everyone thought we were safe There were no issues in the second half when having a go against barnsley and the reactions to our goals shows they want this I just think complacency crept in, confidence has gone and parky is at a loss as to how to get their heads straight When we went 2-1 up at Barnsley PP made a defensive change and we defended too deep for the remaining 10 minutes - we cant defend so why go defensive Prat of a manager For Burton we need to start with the eleven that turned it round at Barnsley and attack attack attack. Hull beat them 5-0 only a couple of weeks ago by being positive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Vela has been appalling all season. Fuck all to do with Madine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 22, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted April 22, 2018 So all these teams that lose to city or Barca or Munich Is that due to players being better than others or is it coaching I know the answer btw Like wigan? Of course plenty of teams have players who may be better than ours; but plenty of teams have managers who I believe would get more out of the ones we've got. We've spent most of the season chasing the ball rather than using it and I reckon it's coming back to bite them now as they're knackered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Hard to disagree with this. Really wouldn’t surprise me if Ken started contract talks with some and low balled them and pissed them off. It’s quite likely as there was talk of contracts round about then. Doesn’t take much, just a few being pissed off and dropping a few percentage points to go from Villa to what we see now. Fine margins. None of this happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefinfrandsen Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I didn't get that impression at all. Ameobi, Morais, Beevers, Ptatley, Robinson, even Buckley looked well up for it in the 1st half. I just dont see the lack of effort others see ( I make an exception for walker in his last appearance). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thomas Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 None of this happened. How do you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefinfrandsen Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 It’s fare to say every one of them was up for it until the first goal went in , even upto the second went in we were still in the game. But as of previous games ( Brum , Millwall, Preston ) heads went down, it’s a lack of confidence obviously, we are in a real trough and some of them don’t look like they can drag themselves out of it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMW Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 When we went 2-1 up at Barnsley PP made a defensive change and we defended too deep for the remaining 10 minutes - we cant defend so why go defensive Bullshit! Dervitte came on in injury time Nothing to do with tactics or PP. Collectively we failed to defend a corner properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marple whites Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 When we went 2-1 up at Barnsley PP made a defensive change and we defended too deep for the remaining 10 minutes - we cant defend so why go defensive Correct, only one team in it then and we should have gone and bagged another. The other thing for me, was after villa too many people seemed to think we were OK and since that point, apart from second half at Barnsley we have been crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marple whites Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Although our away recorded is shite, I am happier, we are away for this. They aren't great at home and also have to win so might suit us better. Also, the pressure of being at home, particularly if you go 1 down can make it harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 How do you know? I know. Can’t really be arsed going in to it. But none of that happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LodgeMorrWhite Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I liked the Noone Alf combo at Barnsley. I thought Noone was looking to play Alf in with balls to run onto rather than Alf with his back to goal. I would like to see Noone get a start at Burton. First 10 minutes get sami on the ball running at them, we need to give them something to think about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Right I need a ticket Another got a spare yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wanderer Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Just seen Darren bent plays for this lot now. Am I imagining it or has he got a knack of scoring against us? In a Jason Roberts kind of way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) Just seen Darren bent plays for this lot now. Am I imagining it or has he got a knack of scoring against us? In a Jason Roberts kind of way. Chuck in Lloyd dyer and Sordell with Bent as well, they’ve got more attacking options than we have. Edited April 22, 2018 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeep Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Chuck in Lloyd dyer and Sordell with Bent as well, they’ve got more attacking options than we have. Bent & Sordell were subs yesterday. Dyer wasn't even in the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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