Traf Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Irrespective of motive/race/religion etc etc, could this attack have been any more hateful? The hate crime tag is pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madthatter Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 I've some level of unease around "hate" crime. If an attack of any sort is carried out by an individual on another, then why should racial differences make the crime apparently worse? Worries me a bit of where this might lead. Anyway; give the cunts life. Agree Irrespective of motive/race/religion etc etc, could this attack have been any more hateful? The hate crime tag is pointless. Agree again - but for all instances, not just this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 25, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted July 25, 2018 I agree. Reckon you've got to have hatred in your heart to undertake such an act against anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 All hatred due to the dad’s ex wife being pictured not wearing a veil. Call me anything you want, but do we really need this kind of barbaric behaviour in this country ? It’s an absolute joker and a poor innocent child may most likely be scarred for life thanks to a brainwashed father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 All hatred due to the dad’s ex wife being pictured not wearing a veil. Call me anything you want, but do we really need this kind of barbaric behaviour in this country ? It’s an absolute joker and a poor innocent child may most likely be scarred for life thanks to a brainwashed father. No we don't need this kind of behaviour from anyone of any race, religion, colour, creed, sporting belief etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 No we don't need this kind of behaviour from anyone of any race, religion, colour, creed, sporting belief etc. Spot on C. Regardless of race,etc, but Romanians hired by an Afghan in England or any other country, it couldn’t be scripted. And regardless of the bit above, that poor kid could well be permanently scarred horrendously for life. What the fuck drives folk to commit such hideous crimes ? I know the mother was the intended target, but in this day and age, it shouldn’t be happening anywhere in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 25, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted July 25, 2018 Must admit, can't see what drives someone to this sort of thing. Surely common sense or basic human dignity should prevent someone undertaking such an act. Seemingly not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Must admit, can't see what drives someone to this sort of thing. Surely common sense or basic human dignity should prevent someone undertaking such an act. Seemingly not. Somtrue R. I mean, what sort of money did they get to do it ? If someone offered me a million quid to do it, I couldn’t do it. If someone offered me a pint to twat a Utd fan or pie eater, then it’s no problem...but doing that whilst kids are in the vicinity is an absolute no no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 25, 2018 Moderators Share Posted July 25, 2018 How would you class it then ? Hardly a domestic is it seeing as the kids dad paid hitmen from Romania to do it. And all due to the child’s mother not wearing her veil eh. Community problems as the police say. And you have the nerve to say I was going on again re left and right politics. Motto - import third world, you get third world scum ...simple as I'd class it is the actions of grade a cunts, like and and all of these: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/11/man-charged-with-gbh-after-east-london-acid-attack https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/24/woman-suffers-serious-injuries-acid-attack-birmingham https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/25/arthur-collins-throw-acid-horrific-night-club-attack-7757124/ https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/19/teenager-19-charged-london-acid-attack-robbery-7643122/ https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/teen-eyewitness-describes-horrific-moment-11228317 https://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-news/police-called-suspected-acid-attack-14763270 I'd had the "nerve" to say it because straight away you were banging on about the left being quiet and there being a different reaction had it been that a "right wing person was involved" you seem to know the reasons why it was done, something to do with a veil, but you didn't know that on Monday when you posted at the time when the police only had CCTV to go off and everyone else on Twitter reckoned it was to do with the EDL march in any case, you seem determined to blame it on immigration though on way or another, so crack on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I'd class it is the actions of grade a cunts, like and and all of these: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/11/man-charged-with-gbh-after-east-london-acid-attack https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/24/woman-suffers-serious-injuries-acid-attack-birmingham https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/25/arthur-collins-throw-acid-horrific-night-club-attack-7757124/ https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/19/teenager-19-charged-london-acid-attack-robbery-7643122/ https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/teen-eyewitness-describes-horrific-moment-11228317 https://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-news/police-called-suspected-acid-attack-14763270 I'd had the "nerve" to say it because straight away you were banging on about the left being quiet and there being a different reaction had it been that a "right wing person was involved" you seem to know the reasons why it was done, something to do with a veil, but you didn't know that on Monday when you posted at the time when the police only had CCTV to go off and everyone else on Twitter reckoned it was to do with the EDL march in any case, you seem determined to blame it on immigration though on way or another, so crack on How do you know I didn’t know ? You’d be surprised. Regardless of that....I was spot on though wasn’t I ? Not arguing...pure proven facts as always. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 25, 2018 Moderators Share Posted July 25, 2018 How do you know I didn’t know ? You’d be surprised. Regardless of that....I was spot on though wasn’t I ? Not arguing...pure proven facts as always. Thanks. you weren't "spot on" at all, neither did you present any facts, you gave vague opinions on what the left and right might think about what had happened whereas everyone has roundly condemned them and you didn't know, did you, even now you're going off a daily mail headline thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) you weren't "spot on" at all, neither did you present any facts, you gave vague opinions on what the left and right might think about what had happened whereas everyone has roundly condemned them and you didn't know, did you, even now you're going off a daily mail headline thanks Daily Mail headline ? You should check me out elsewhere...then you’d realise instead of being smug and smarmy on here. Thank you. Edited July 25, 2018 by miamiwhite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted July 26, 2018 Members Share Posted July 26, 2018 We all know acid attacks are not purely the domain of one race/religion/minority/country etc. Seems to be spreading but it has been a growing problem in one country for a long time:- https://asiafoundation.org/2014/10/01/acid-crimes-a-growing-crisis-in-pakistan/ I know the cabal will be up in arms again (not only because this one was an Afghan) and I don't give a flying fuck. Some followers of a primitive religion will behave primitively and the more you have, the more incidents there will be (even though the small percentage figure will remain the same). Yes, we agree - some locals have picked up on this horrendous and cowardly act too. Long sentences have to be the deterrent. Disfiguring a child for life by accident because other blokes have gazed upon your wife's face? Throw the fucking key away (and I understand the calls for an eye for an eye - uncivilsed as that would be). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 All hatred due to the dad’s ex wife being pictured not wearing a veil. Call me anything you want, but do we really need this kind of barbaric behaviour in this country ? It’s an absolute joker and a poor innocent child may most likely be scarred for life thanks to a brainwashed father. Don’t forget ‘The poor, innocent child’ must share nationality of his parents Just seems a bit strange that we would want both the child and his mother out of the country based on something the loony father has done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Don’t forget ‘The poor, innocent child’ must share nationality of his parents Just seems a bit strange that we would want both the child and his mother out of the country based on something the loony father has done I wouldn’t go as far as saying that to be honest, though the father should be deported back to Afghanistan once his prison sentence is over. He clearly has no intention of assimilation whereas his ex wife appeared to be doing so thus causing the ex husband to flip. Refugees basically should have a one strike and you’re out system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) Fair enough, I don’t think anyone would argue with kicking the loony out But your original point was ‘do we want this here’ The three year old wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for his parents being here Of course we don’t want to see anything like this, it just feels a bit harsh on the mother and three year old victim putting this down to immigration. Their loony father does this and immediately folk are questioning why the whole family are here, it’s making a terrible situation worse for the innocent victim Edited July 26, 2018 by birch-chorley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Refugees basically should have a one strike and you’re out system. Send the buggers back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) Fair enough, I don’t think anyone would argue with kicking the loony out But your original point was ‘do we want this here’ The three year old wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for his parents being here Of course we don’t want to see anything like this, it just feels a bit harsh on the mother and three year old victim putting this down to immigration. Their loony father does this and immediately folk are questioning why the whole family are here, it’s making a terrible situation worse for the innocent victim If the Afghan family arrived here because he had a work permit and was able to support his family then I have no problem with the family being here, it’s a crime that we just have to deal with, but if he’s an illegal immigrant or someone who’s arrived and being supported by benefits then they all should have been sent back to where they came from. It’s not difficult to decide on their suitability for residency, we just need a proper immigration policy, one that’s fit for purpose rather than one seemingly designed specifically not to upset liberal do gooders. Any how hope the little lad makes as best of a recovery as possible. Edited July 26, 2018 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Being Afghan I'd wager they were here seeking asylum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 We all know acid attacks are not purely the domain of one race/religion/minority/country etc. Seems to be spreading but it has been a growing problem in one country for a long time:- https://asiafoundation.org/2014/10/01/acid-crimes-a-growing-crisis-in-pakistan/ I know the cabal will be up in arms again (not only because this one was an Afghan) and I don't give a flying fuck. Some followers of a primitive religion will behave primitively and the more you have, the more incidents there will be (even though the small percentage figure will remain the same). Yes, we agree - some locals have picked up on this horrendous and cowardly act too. Long sentences have to be the deterrent. Disfiguring a child for life by accident because other blokes have gazed upon your wife's face? Throw the fucking key away (and I understand the calls for an eye for an eye - uncivilsed as that would be). Domestic violence rises in the UK up to between 25 and 35% every time England play and lose. Primarily amongst the white English working class households. The more of those people we have and tolerate the more domestic violence incidents there will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 26, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted July 26, 2018 Domestic violence rises in the UK up to between 25 and 35% every time England play and lose. Primarily amongst the white English working class households. The more of those people we have and tolerate the more domestic violence incidents there will be. So, because we have some issues of our own, we should tolerate those of others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 So, because we have some issues of our own, we should tolerate those of others? That is missing the point. I'm not sure there would be a clear definition of our "own people". If your view is we should close our borders and let nobody in that is a different argument. But if you argue that because some asylum seekers are criminals we should let nobody in....that is just pure nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 26, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted July 26, 2018 None of the above. Let in who you want, so long as aspects of culture that aren't compatible with those here are stamped down upon quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewman Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Fuck that shut the border Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 None of the above. Let in who you want, so long as aspects of culture that aren't compatible with those here are stamped down upon quickly. So let some in who beat their wives if England lose then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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