Youri McAnespie Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Bus replacements mid-fucking week from Preston, Manc, Wigan etc. onward to Bolton. Four (more?) years of shit so we can have loads of services whizz through Bolton without stopping, brilliant... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 it was in the Bolton news at the end of June - it's hardly a suprise http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/16316641.no-trains-for-nine-days-as-railway-upgrades-set-to-finish/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Northern Fail are a fucking disgrace. We'll have flying cars before a normal train service is resumed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Lazy Carriager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 28, 2018 Moderators Share Posted August 28, 2018 Northern Fail are a fucking disgrace. We'll have flying cars before a normal train service is resumed. id say our mps/govt are the disgrace im not having it that this would have been tolerated down south Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) it was in the Bolton news at the end of June - it's hardly a suprise http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/16316641.no-trains-for-nine-days-as-railway-upgrades-set-to-finish/ ...Work will finally be completed on Sunday, November 4, when weekend and mid-week work will come to an end...Arse town hall steps... As for this nine-day thing, I dunno if they've mentioned it again in the BN since June but I haven't noticed any erm, notices... Edited August 28, 2018 by Youri McAnespie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Ray Train Michael Tickets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jules_darby Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 id say our mps/govt are the disgrace im not having it that this would have been tolerated down south Northern Rail and the government I’d say local MP’s are trying all they can Totally agree with the sentiment though NorthernPowerhouse is all well and fine when Manc city centre is booming but outside of major metropolis it’s a mess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 29, 2018 Moderators Share Posted August 29, 2018 only use trains for football 2 hours manc to london over 90 mins from my house to manc - in theory, using bus and train it should be about 50 minutes, but services are so unreliable you have to get the one 2 before the one you need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted August 29, 2018 Members Share Posted August 29, 2018 Bus replacements mid-fucking week from Preston, Manc, Wigan etc. onward to Bolton. Four (more?) years of shit so we can have loads of services whizz through Bolton without stopping, brilliant... Vote for your avatar mate. That will stop them whizzing. Often not moving at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted August 29, 2018 Author Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) You'd vote for a pig with a blue rosette... The train network, amongst other things (prisons and Royal Mail for example) are a fucking disgrace and proof that the Tory dogma of privatisation doesn't work wholesale. They're fucking itching to do it to the NHS which will be the death of it, I probably will, reluctantly, vote Jezza's lot next time around, even if my vote isn't needed in my ward, where a halal sheep with a red rosette would win. Edited August 29, 2018 by Youri McAnespie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted August 29, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2018 Trains have always been shit. Nationalised, private or otherwise, we're relying on a network that was built 100 years ago to ferry people in stovepipe hats and petticoats to the seaside every so often. It wasn't designed to cope with millions of people using it daily. London gets all the investment because it's London, but the services out to the provinces are dog dirt there too. Central London is good. We have to be a little realistic. We want to be able to get around the country for ten shillings on an ultra modern service, all with trains that are as frequent as George Best to the bar. Of course it could be better, but it needs paying for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Vote for your avatar mate. That will stop them whizzing. Often not moving at all. They aren't moving now. And are measurably providing in some cases the worst services since tracking began. More trains are cancelled, more trains are overcrowded and more trains are late than ever before. Privatising the providers has failed. It is too costly to renationalise but lets just call a failure a failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Trains have always been shit. Nationalised, private or otherwise, we're relying on a network that was built 100 years ago to ferry people in stovepipe hats and petticoats to the seaside every so often. It wasn't designed to cope with millions of people using it daily. London gets all the investment because it's London, but the services out to the provinces are dog dirt there too. Central London is good. We have to be a little realistic. We want to be able to get around the country for ten shillings on an ultra modern service, all with trains that are as frequent as George Best to the bar. Of course it could be better, but it needs paying for. London also got funding for crossrail as it whacked CIL payments on new developments Build a shard and there's a nice tidy sum in kitty Not enough to pay for it all, but as it gets put on minor developments such as a single house it would be interesting to see how much it's brought it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowack Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Trains have always been shit Not true. The system was as good as any in Europe and intercity the fastest way to travel outside of Japan. This is why it was privatised as it was a good investment not because private companies were going to be its saviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Not true. The system was as good as any in Europe and intercity the fastest way to travel outside of Japan. This is why it was privatised as it was a good investment not because private companies were going to be its saviour. Is that correct? Didn’t the TGV start before we (correctly) privatised? I remember going on it in 1982 Anyway, on the whole British Rail was shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted August 29, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2018 Pep Guard-iola David Platform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter White on Tyne Posted August 29, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2018 RMT strikes every Saturday til end Sept. add those to all the others these last couple of years. I was a big critic of the union for using us passengers as pawns in their action vs northern rail and making me ride my bike to the quayside. Hello sailor. But after having a social chat with a couple of Train guards I learn that Northern rail puts them in such a difficult position with forced breaks leading to knock on delays and implausible timetables plus shit trains that my sympathy has shifted a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nowack Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Is that correct? Didn’t the TGV start before we (correctly) privatised? I remember going on it in 1982 Anyway, on the whole British Rail was shit. Mid 70s intercity125. I am not a train buff I just watched a documentary on it yesterday, Time watch on iPlayer, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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