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1 hour ago, Casino said:

just had a look and more than a little surprised with 2 and 3

nothing in it, though

Yes, I think that we have a good chance.

 

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6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Lots of "erms" and long pauses? :)

I've got a few to go at, but let us know what you think later. Might give it a go.

Saving it for my hols next week, but on the first page he has a nibble at Yorkshire!

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13 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Now bring on The Aussies 

From 4

Root

Bairstow

Stokes

Buttler

Moeen

Archer

Broad

Anderson

 

Leaves us needing a top 3 and no place for Curran, Wood and Woakes

Suppose Moeen could go 3, making room for Woakes but need 2 openers...still...

And Moeen will get worked over

Do they go with Burns, Roy and Bairstow in the top 3

Its not like there's many stand outs

 

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2 minutes ago, Casino said:

From 4

Root

Bairstow

Stokes

Buttler

Moeen

Archer

Broad

Anderson

 

Leaves us needing a top 3 and no place for Curran, Wood and Woakes

Suppose Moeen could go 3, making room for Woakes but need 2 openers...still...

And Moeen will get worked over

Do they go with Burns, Roy and Bairstow in the top 3

Its not like there's many stand outs

 

Roy, I guess

Perhaps with a Burns, a Stoneman or a Jennings

Would Bairstow go in higher? Possibly not.

Bit stuck at the top

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Jos to keep. Bairstow to open with Roy. I know its proper cricket but they are a pair who bat well together and I don't see better options. Number 3 is tricky. Definitely NOT Moeen he has no form with the bat and 3 is usually a "repair a bad situation" after an early wicket or two. But I do think Roy and Baistow should open. It might not work but can anyone see Burns/Jennings/Stoneman being anything other than fodder for likes of Starc? I have a hunch that in time Stokes could be a test #3. His batting is getting better and better and he's developed a patience I never knew he had. A massive huge risk to play Roy, Bairstow and Stokes as top 3 - but they have the balls. And in the Ashes for me that's a big thing.

As for bowlers - Archer apparently not used to bowling 3 spells in a day - is he fit enough? He has a side strain....

Wood - big question if he's fit enough for tests - if he is I think I'd have him in if wickets are suited to his skiddy pace.

Woakes - perfect for English wickets. Do you drop Broad?

 

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53 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Talk of Archer (and Woakes) not being involved until the 2nd test.

Weird, unless it’s kidology

Archer's been carrying a side strain. Issue for Archer is whether he is acclimatised to bowling 3 spells a day....all at pace...

One days he might bowl two main spells and the second will be a lot of slower balls. Tests you will bowl 3 spells a day and most of what you will need to bowl will be full pace deliveries. If he only has one plus 90 spell in him - that could be an issue. 

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37 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Archer's been carrying a side strain. Issue for Archer is whether he is acclimatised to bowling 3 spells a day....all at pace...

One days he might bowl two main spells and the second will be a lot of slower balls. Tests you will bowl 3 spells a day and most of what you will need to bowl will be full pace deliveries. If he only has one plus 90 spell in him - that could be an issue. 

But, we’ll not know until we try it?

Are we counting on winning at Edgbaston because we always do?!

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1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

But, we’ll not know until we try it?

Are we counting on winning at Edgbaston because we always do?!

I'd play him. I think its going to be a tough call for first test. Play a lot of the one day lot because they have the momentum and might scare the Aussies - but risk - injury/fatigue and also their lack of test experience and know-how. Or pick a more traditional test side that probably isn't going to worry the Aussies as much. 

Its easy to get carried away on winning a world cup and throw lads into tests who aren't ready and get battered. Its also easy to go too conservative and lose any momentum.

It depends on what you think the default is. I think by default we'll lose. So take risks and play lads who are on top of the world. But if you think with a more traditional side we will win...then take less risks. 

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Just now, bwfcfan5 said:

I'd play him. I think its going to be a tough call for first test. Play a lot of the one day lot because they have the momentum and might scare the Aussies - but risk - injury/fatigue and also their lack of test experience and know-how. Or pick a more traditional test side that probably isn't going to worry the Aussies as much. 

Its easy to get carried away on winning a world cup and throw lads into tests who aren't ready and get battered. Its also easy to go too conservative and lose any momentum.

It depends on what you think the default is. I think by default we'll lose. So take risks and play lads who are on top of the world. But if you think with a more traditional side we will win...then take less risks. 

Default I reckon is even Stevens; I’m thinking that our pace and other quality bowling will negate theirs and we are about level in batting.

 

 

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1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

Default I reckon is even Stevens; I’m thinking that our pace and other quality bowling will negate theirs and we are about level in batting.

 

 

Bowling isn't my concern...batting is a problem. 

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36 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Bowling isn't my concern...batting is a problem. 

Sure, but so is theirs

Notice how they’ve got batters into counties and their B team have had 3 matches so far; superior preparation etc

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