gonzo Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 it’s getting a bit Neil Lennon..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizlar Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 What's it like winning a game of football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizlar Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 If it carries on I reckon we will go down with less points then Lennon managed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eavesy Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Evidence of 2 weeks training with a full squad to pick from. evidence of a plan / clear approach to a match evidence or playing to players strengths evidence of set piece routines evidence of players improving over time Winning football will become a by product of the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 13, 2018 Moderators Share Posted November 13, 2018 set pieces are only as good as the delivery and ours is shite id rather carry morais to take free kicks than see us keep hitting the chest of a defender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 hours ago, gonzo said: Well the current situation can’t and won’t carry on that’s for certain. Once the fans turn, sections of the dressing room have gone, there’s only 2 ways it’s ending up. Results pick up or he’s a gonner. Ken decides. The players back Parky. The fans aren't calling for his head at home games and I don't think the majority will either. So I suspect we carry on as we are all season and hope things pick up. If Ken was sacking him he'd have done so yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Ken decides. The players back Parky. The fans aren't calling for his head at home games and I don't think the majority will either. So I suspect we carry on as we are all season and hope things pick up. If Ken was sacking him he'd have done so yesterday. I’d review that if things are still the same after the Wigan game if you think the fans won’t turn if this continues then you’re very naive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Ken decides. The players back Parky. The fans aren't calling for his head at home games and I don't think the majority will either. So I suspect we carry on as we are all season and hope things pick up. If Ken was sacking him he'd have done so yesterday. I wouldn’t believe every soundbite from a player you hear. If you think the fans aren’t turning en masse you must be sat amongst Parkys friends and family wearing earmuffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, radcliffewhite1 said: I’d review that if things are still the same after the Wigan game if you think the fans won’t turn if this continues then you’re very naive I don't think there is hostility towards him. Most home fans might think "we should try something else" but are still broadly sympathetic to him. He's a decent bloke who's done a great job here. They won't turn on him generally vocally because there isn't any real mass dislike of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, bwfcfan5 said: I don't think there is hostility towards him. Most home fans might think "we should try something else" but are still broadly sympathetic to him. He's a decent bloke who's done a great job here. They won't turn on him generally vocally because there isn't any real mass dislike of him. Most fans are beyond “we must try something else” yes he’s a decent bloke but he can’t cut it end of believe me fans will turn vocally and also by not showing up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, gonzo said: I wouldn’t believe every soundbite from a player you hear. If you think the fans aren’t turning en masse you must be sat amongst Parkys friends and family wearing earmuffs. The fans aren't screaming Parky out at home. Loads of stuff online. But in the ground? Virtually nothing. There is a difference between fans being sure a manager is a bad 'un and screaming for his head and just simple "well its shit but can't see it getting better whatever" resignation which I think is the general mood of the home crowd. LoV as much as they are generally idiots sum it up well here. https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2018/11/12/18085930/polite-mutiny-the-problem-with-wanting-rid-of-a-manager-that-you-still-really-like It might change but I don't see our home crowd significantly getting on his back. Most are of the view that until we have investment that its all a short term game anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted November 13, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2018 Apathy has set in though now & that's worse than having a row about it. I've previously had a go at the yoof who regularly boo the team/tactics but I couldn't turn round now & justify why they shouldn't boo what's happening on the field. I'm past the point of being angry - now just resigned to losing. Still going to Millwall though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkden White Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 51 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: The fans aren't screaming Parky out at home. Loads of stuff online. But in the ground? Virtually nothing. There is a difference between fans being sure a manager is a bad 'un and screaming for his head and just simple "well its shit but can't see it getting better whatever" resignation which I think is the general mood of the home crowd. LoV as much as they are generally idiots sum it up well here. https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2018/11/12/18085930/polite-mutiny-the-problem-with-wanting-rid-of-a-manager-that-you-still-really-like It might change but I don't see our home crowd significantly getting on his back. Most are of the view that until we have investment that its all a short term game anyhow. For a change from LOV that does sum it up quite nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Take Hunt Off Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Four points from the next two games & everything will be kushti apart from the usual suspects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I’d be doing cartwheels if we get 4 points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 13, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: I’d be doing cartwheels if we get 4 points Let's see if sturridge bets on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Aye naughty lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Steejay said: Apathy has set in though now & that's worse than having a row about it. I've previously had a go at the yoof who regularly boo the team/tactics but I couldn't turn round now & justify why they shouldn't boo what's happening on the field. I'm past the point of being angry - now just resigned to losing. Still going to Millwall though... It’s the apathy i was more alluding to. Players and fans giving up is it what will kill his tenure it’s people voting with their feet will make KA notice more than fans booting off. Nobody wants this, everyone wants it to work for Parky, but folk have had enough. It’s not working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 13, 2018 Moderators Share Posted November 13, 2018 i dont think he should be sacked but id accept poor results being given as a reason for sacking...not style or any of that other shit, just an inability to get points i dont think anything gets much better whoever we get as i reckon the players arent the best and our best player has just missed months something to consider, if PP went, how much flack does KA then get come March if things haven't improved then it stops being 'the managers fault' and the common denominator will be shit players and skint owners i dont blame footballers for being shit if they are, they are if others agree, then KA is right in the firing line and not just from the usual móngs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewman Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Whys he not gone yet? Perfect opportunity give a new manager time sort the shit out whilst on international break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 45 minutes ago, Casino said: i dont think he should be sacked but id accept poor results being given as a reason for sacking...not style or any of that other shit, just an inability to get points i dont think anything gets much better whoever we get as i reckon the players arent the best and our best player has just missed months something to consider, if PP went, how much flack does KA then get come March if things haven't improved then it stops being 'the managers fault' and the common denominator will be shit players and skint owners i dont blame footballers for being shit if they are, they are if others agree, then KA is right in the firing line and not just from the usual móngs What I’m struggling with Parkinson is that he has proved he can get results from these shit players and also get them pumped up now if you look at the players in and out he has strengthened and and I for one was pleased and excited by some of the additions close season I think a change could get better out of this squad but let’s see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Ratwhite Posted November 13, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Steejay said: Apathy has set in though now & that's worse than having a row about it. I've previously had a go at the yoof who regularly boo the team/tactics but I couldn't turn round now & justify why they shouldn't boo what's happening on the field. I'm past the point of being angry - now just resigned to losing. Still going to Millwall though... Is where I’m at. nail on head. the years of shit wearing us down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 20 hours ago, jayjayoghani said: Been gone too long He never rang, he never called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eavesy Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Get that mon in from Fulham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted November 14, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted November 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Eavesy said: Get that mon in from Fulham I'd tug myself senseless if we got him. Unfortunately he's a good manager and will get a decent job at an under-performing side before long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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