Moderators Casino Posted December 29, 2018 Moderators Share Posted December 29, 2018 20 minutes ago, Steejay said: We Yep, agree with that. Stoke were there for the taking in the last 20 minutes, we had the effort but not the creativity. He'd not have got off the bench Every point is a big point for us and I'd not have been gambling it on the off chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Take Hunt Off Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: Genuine question, does that mean he also called it right at Brentford, Sheff Wed and v Leeds, or is it just that they nicked a goal and Stoke missed? Bottom line is that players have to perform whatever system is employed Cant really comment on Brentford or Sheff Wed because I was'nt at either game .Leeds at home was a creditable effort with the game decided on one piece of quality finishing from them otherwise tactics spot on . Maybe we should agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Just now, mickbrown said: Anybody 6 inches taller. Aye, it is a factor. You think Oz has been worse than Noone, Donaldson, Wildschut, Buckley? OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 35 minutes ago, 1969 said: Did we not score 2 against Rotherham You are correct sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Just now, Take Hunt Off said: Bottom line is that players have to perform whatever system is employed Cant really comment on Brentford or Sheff Wed because I was'nt at either game .Leeds at home was a creditable effort with the game decided on one piece of quality finishing from them otherwise tactics spot on . Maybe we should agree to disagree. I agree, we were good against Leeds. We were good today in the last 70 minutes, the difference being Bamford rather than Crouch. Everyone slating us after Leeds and praising us today but the performance was the same, defensively, just little of note in the attacking third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Take Hunt Off Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Being weak in the final third is where we are ....no real goalscorer Dont really know what Parky can do given the constraints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 29, 2018 Moderators Share Posted December 29, 2018 (edited) I'm not sure everyone was slating the team after leeds A few nobs but generally that performance wasn't seen as a bad one Unfortunately, in this league most teams have better players than us We are, imo, about 6 points behind where we would be if games were played on paper So, there is room for improvement Edited December 29, 2018 by Casino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 23 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: You think Oz has been worse than Noone, Donaldson, Wildschut, Buckley? OK. He ain’t a striker or a winger. You’re comparing apples and pears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
embankment Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 14 hours ago, embankment said: Take a draw. But the sad thing is even if its 0-5 the fans will not voice their feelings. Instead they will slowly leave the ground. Parky isn't gettting the sack. Wages will be payed in Jan. But administration is lurking in Feb. The above will happen even if we win with a dodgy last minute penalty !! Well i got the draw !! Very happy with the result. Shocked by the lack of passion from the Stoke fans. Very very quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnstoneworth White Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 5 hours ago, MalcolmW said: Not quite. Her salary was 220m and the rest was dividends for her 50.01% share. Whichever way you want to look at it she got 265m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted December 30, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 30, 2018 3 hours ago, embankment said: Well i got the draw !! Very happy with the result. Shocked by the lack of passion from the Stoke fans. Very very quiet. Only the one run through of Delilah during the game; which was a blessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 9 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: Genuine question, does that mean he also called it right at Brentford, Sheff Wed and v Leeds, or is it just that they nicked a goal and Stoke missed? Interesting question I’d certainly draw parallels with the Leeds game and yesterday. However, the stats do show clear differences - v Leeds we had 4 shots and 0 on target. Yesterday we had 13 with 5 on target (more than Stoke). We also had possession 30% more yesterday than v Leeds. (Despite still conceding the majority), which certainty relieves pressure and makes it look like we defend better. Perhaps the difference yesterday was a result of confidence from the Rotherham win?, perhaps it was a result of the difference in confidence of the opposition? (there’s nothing really between the Leeds and Stoke players’ individual ability), or maybe it’s something else or a combination. For me having one or two that look to get on the front foot more makes the key difference; irrespective of it being a 4-4-2 like Rothetham or a 4-2-3-1 like yesterday. if the opposition have a modicum of worry about you, it makes life a hell of a lot easier for us at the back. Well done to PP for yesterday but I can’t help but think he should have done it way before now and needs to continue. It’s not about being polar and suddenly playing open and expansive football where we get tonked 6-2 every week, but being incrementally braver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, jules_darby said: Interesting question I’d certainly draw parallels with the Leeds game and yesterday. However, the stats do show clear differences - v Leeds we had 4 shots and 0 on target. Yesterday we had 13 with 5 on target (more than Stoke). We also had possession 30% more yesterday than v Leeds. (Despite still conceding the majority), which certainty relieves pressure and makes it look like we defend better. Perhaps the difference yesterday was a result of confidence from the Rotherham win?, perhaps it was a result of the difference in confidence of the opposition? (there’s nothing really between the Leeds and Stoke players’ individual ability), or maybe it’s something else or a combination. For me having one or two that look to get on the front foot more makes the key difference; irrespective of it being a 4-4-2 like Rothetham or a 4-2-3-1 like yesterday. if the opposition have a modicum of worry about you, it makes life a hell of a lot easier for us at the back. Well done to PP for yesterday but I can’t help but think he should have done it way before now and needs to continue. It’s not about being polar and suddenly playing open and expansive football where we get tonked 6-2 every week, but being incrementally braver Good post Jules. I’d go along with most of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Aye spot on jules. Also Doige needs to play every game. He’ll get goals imo. Needs get some protien in his diet mind. As for Oz debate, McClean would have gone through him like a dose of salts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 6 hours ago, MickyD said: Only the one run through of Delilah during the game; which was a blessing. One of the cringiest songs in world football along with 'it's your round my lord'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 51 minutes ago, gonzo said: Aye spot on jules. Also Doige needs to play every game. He’ll get goals imo. Needs get some protien in his diet mind. As for Oz debate, McClean would have gone through him like a dose of salts. Bang on diodge needs game time and he will get there question is what will happen January when his loan deal is to be made permanent, will it happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Aye spot on jules. Also Doige needs to play every game. He’ll get goals imo. Needs get some protien in his diet mind. As for Oz debate, McClean would have gone through him like a dose of salts. I've thought for weeks that Doidge should start every game, we need to sink or swim with the bloke he's only going to get up to speed by playing regular. Just don't think he's lone centre forward material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) Stoke were the worst team to rock up at our place (previously Wigan) he won't last all season. Good game yesterday. They were there for the taking and I think it came to a point 2nd half that if anyone was gonna nick it, it would be us. I see we have now conceded less than Norwich this season and quite a few others. Sadly we are the lowest scorers though and if any reinforcements are made in Jan then priority has to be a striker and a creative type. Saying all that i also like Doidge and hope PP sticks with him. We look a better team with him in Crowd were very good at backing the team yesterday Edited December 30, 2018 by tomski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 I'm thinking that above all else we need a creative midfielder during January. We take one and sometimes two passes too many when shifting the ball wide. The opposition have usually congregated around the wide man by the time we've got the ball there and thus its difficult to get a really dangerous cross in. We've not had someone who can pick out a pass from the centre of the park to the feet of an wide man moving forward since Spearing. Williams, Vela, O'Neill and Wilson all have their attributes but that vision isn't one of them. The addition of that one type of player would, in my opinion, unlock more goals and not overly detract from our defensive side. To be fair, Stoke often appeared to have a similar problem yesterday - hence their failure to expose us out wide in a way other Championship sides have tended to do this last 18 months. Having said all that I was impressed by Vela's hard work yesterday and remain impressed with Lowe as a right back. As things stand it looks like it's between the current bottom four with Millwall and Wigan coming in to it if they go on a dreadful run. The experience of last year's escape will hopefully prove helpful once we get to April, provided we're still in the scrap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted December 30, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 30, 2018 Doidge is getting better all the time. He’s starting to look a decent player now, the goals will hopefully follow sooner rather than later but yes, I agree with Gonzo, he needs half a stone of muscle on him yet. Good effort all round yesterday, pleasantly surprised with Grounds, he can stay in the team if he plays like that every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmed Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Heard 2 independent reviews, one from a Stokie (sons Uni mate) and my FE correspondent (Bolton fan). Both said the same, 2 awful teams and an awful game. The Stokie expected a win and my FE guy was happy with a point. 2 unbeaten but now 2 aways, both of which we can get something from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Bang on diodge needs game time and he will get there question is what will happen January when his loan deal is to be made permanent, will it happen? Can we pull out of the £1m deal; hope so because I dont believe he is championship standard along with Donaldson and Magennis Pity ALF left because he had goals in him but we have to move on and we need another player in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: Can we pull out of the £1m deal; hope so because I dont believe he is championship standard along with Donaldson and Magennis Pity ALF left because he had goals in him but we have to move on and we need another player in Going to be interesting to see what happens maybe an extension? Or perhaps mr madine will be coming back just for jules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted December 30, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 30, 2018 We are committed to signing Doidge - same as Matthews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said: We are committed to signing Doidge - same as Matthews Think we know ken doesn’t do commitment in the money department at times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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