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1 hour ago, bolton va va said:

Iles deserves to be banned for his obvious shit stirring against the club, but I fear that Iles, ST & other Anderson haters will be pleased with this & spin it as the fearless local journalist standing up for "the fans " against the evil owner.

Hopefully the club are prepared ( not least, for a media backlash in support of Iles ) by having a well presented record of Iles' shit stirring, to justify his ban.

 

All they've done is make a martyr of him, despite what some might think. Another misstep.

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Just now, Mr Grey said:

You've just answered my question :D

Exactly so we’re not alone are we?

the only problem is ours is skint and every fucker else’s are loaded.

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34 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

That as maybe, but the 'Bollocks' at the beginning says to me that you know he doesn't really give a fuck.

He wants us to be successful from a business selling point of view, but he doesn't actually give one fuck about Bolton Wanderers FC!  He isn't a fan like Eddie Davies, he's a 2-bit business man and a chancer at that, he saw an opportunity at BWFC to make a few quid, he has misjudged it and now he is rueing the decision that he bought the club.

Iles got to involved and has paid the price at the BEN, Tank Top however is plodding along waiting for some Arab or Afghan poppy seller to buy the club, as we all know, hence he doesn't give an actual fuck about the club itself.

The ST however do give a fuck, but unfortunately they are run by a bunch of cunts!

 

 

So we agree

Anderson needs the club to be saleable so is working towards making it so

Lies doesn't give a fcuk, beyond his own personal ambitions, so doesn't give a fcuk

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31 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Name me a club owner that gives a shit about the ‘actual’ fooball club? 

The guy at Stoke?

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57 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

The guy at Stoke?

I’d say Gibson at Boro, but they’re a dying breed.

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6 hours ago, Carlos said:

People need to take into account that Marc Iles has fuck all interest in Bolton Wanderers. Zero. Other than getting paid to report on it.

 

What's that got to do with him doing his job, which is getting paid to report on the club?

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37 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

What's that got to do with him doing his job, which is getting paid to report on the club?

What ever anyone thinks the facts are these.

Iles boss was contacted to requested that he tone things down.

The following day on his own personal Twitter account he deliberately commented on the clubs financial update (wages HAD been paid) and chose to accompany the tweet with a picture of Scrooge - we ALL know who he meant by that!

Does anybody really think that was done innocently by Iles?

Does anyone think Anderson would have banned him if he had simply wrote his article first and linked to it on twitter without pictorial comment?

Seems blatantly obvious he knew what he was doing - sticking two fingers up to Anderson and daring him - did he really believe he could carry on like that regardless of consequences?

Hardly the behaviour of someone impartial and agendaless and so called 'simply reporting on the club'.

Is it?

 

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5 hours ago, gonzo said:

It’s been coming. 

Theres miles more to it than a few tweets. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Marc Iles has an agenda, an agenda driven by well known antagonists and is well and truly in bed with them.

All this has been known by some at club for a long time and it was only a matter of time before this happened.

I’ve seen it all before over this way with oystons and local journos. Once a journo picks sides and nails his colours to the mast it’s game over. 

Iles had enough warning to reign it in, his employers should have sorted him out. 

He just couldn’t help himself. He’s a mouthpiece for others and the games up.

 

What else was he supposed to do though? Not reflect fans opinion on players not being paid for a fortnight?

Fair enough maybe his analysis of the situation might have been different, so what does he do then? Try to justify a 2 week delay in wage payments? Or try to pass it off and accept the party line?

Fair enough I believe he took too many of the more extreme views to heart and began to broadcast them too much. But if he didn't at all? What kind of coverage do we want from our local paper? Twitter carries a bigger representation of fans' views than Wanderers Ways does, whether that's a good or bad thing. 

With everything going on at the club, I don't think Marc Iles is the problem.

 

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54 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

What else was he supposed to do though? Not reflect fans opinion on players not being paid for a fortnight?

Fair enough maybe his analysis of the situation might have been different, so what does he do then? Try to justify a 2 week delay in wage payments? Or try to pass it off and accept the party line?

Fair enough I believe he took too many of the more extreme views to heart and began to broadcast them too much. But if he didn't at all? What kind of coverage do we want from our local paper? Twitter carries a bigger representation of fans' views than Wanderers Ways does, whether that's a good or bad thing. 

With everything going on at the club, I don't think Marc Iles is the problem.

 

Well maybe if Iles had just tweeted once that with Burnden Leisure being a limited company that it was NOT the responsibility of Anderson to pay the wages from his own pocket.

Maybe then this bigger representation of Bolton fans on Twitter might have been a little better informed and not as angry against the owner as so many of them now are.

Maybe if he hadn't tweeted 'likes' on his twitter account to people implying Anderson was a crook in some way, then maybe some of those many on twitter might not be thinking the same way as they are now.

Maybe if he hadn't deliberately put out on twitter extracts from the accounts about payments to Anderson company for 'consultation' services and joined in the unfounded belief that he was paying himself over half a million in year in wages, then all his twitter followers wouldn't have taken it as gospel that Anderson (and his son) were!

It's not about Iles being asked to toe some party line or other it is about Iles being professional and impartial in what he is reporting on.

If he left it at writing his articles rather than become the self proclaimed voice of the people on twitter (based on opinions and personal bias rather than facts) then maybe people would have been better informed and not out forming lynch parties to get the Anderson's out as many seem to want now thanks to Iles.

Marc Iles may not be the problem at the club but there's no doubt he's added considerably to them recently over his personal agenda with Andersons and how he's gone out of his way to shit stir the twitter gormless to start to turn things toxic against them on the terraces.

 

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6 hours ago, Sluffy said:

Well maybe if Iles had just tweeted once that with Burnden Leisure being a limited company that it was NOT the responsibility of Anderson to pay the wages from his own pocket.

Maybe then this bigger representation of Bolton fans on Twitter might have been a little better informed and not as angry against the owner as so many of them now are.

Maybe if he hadn't tweeted 'likes' on his twitter account to people implying Anderson was a crook in some way, then maybe some of those many on twitter might not be thinking the same way as they are now.

Maybe if he hadn't deliberately put out on twitter extracts from the accounts about payments to Anderson company for 'consultation' services and joined in the unfounded belief that he was paying himself over half a million in year in wages, then all his twitter followers wouldn't have taken it as gospel that Anderson (and his son) were!

It's not about Iles being asked to toe some party line or other it is about Iles being professional and impartial in what he is reporting on.

If he left it at writing his articles rather than become the self proclaimed voice of the people on twitter (based on opinions and personal bias rather than facts) then maybe people would have been better informed and not out forming lynch parties to get the Anderson's out as many seem to want now thanks to Iles.

Marc Iles may not be the problem at the club but there's no doubt he's added considerably to them recently over his personal agenda with Andersons and how he's gone out of his way to shit stir the twitter gormless to start to turn things toxic against them on the terraces.

 

Bang on

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11 hours ago, Morizio said:

I fear we are going the Blackpool (Oyston FC) route...

It certainly feels that way. 

Only difference is the Blackpool fans had a genuine case. The family paid themselves about £100m instead of £500k :)

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6 hours ago, Sluffy said:

Well maybe if Iles had just tweeted once that with Burnden Leisure being a limited company that it was NOT the responsibility of Anderson to pay the wages from his own pocket.

Maybe then this bigger representation of Bolton fans on Twitter might have been a little better informed and not as angry against the owner as so many of them now are.

Maybe if he hadn't tweeted 'likes' on his twitter account to people implying Anderson was a crook in some way, then maybe some of those many on twitter might not be thinking the same way as they are now.

Maybe if he hadn't deliberately put out on twitter extracts from the accounts about payments to Anderson company for 'consultation' services and joined in the unfounded belief that he was paying himself over half a million in year in wages, then all his twitter followers wouldn't have taken it as gospel that Anderson (and his son) were!

It's not about Iles being asked to toe some party line or other it is about Iles being professional and impartial in what he is reporting on.

If he left it at writing his articles rather than become the self proclaimed voice of the people on twitter (based on opinions and personal bias rather than facts) then maybe people would have been better informed and not out forming lynch parties to get the Anderson's out as many seem to want now thanks to Iles.

Marc Iles may not be the problem at the club but there's no doubt he's added considerably to them recently over his personal agenda with Andersons and how he's gone out of his way to shit stir the twitter gormless to start to turn things toxic against them on the terraces.

 

Fair response. I was pissed.

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1 hour ago, gonzo said:

It certainly feels that way. 

Only difference is the Blackpool fans had a genuine case. The family paid themselves about £100m instead of £500k :)

The money part isn’t what I was thinking about. It’s the litigation, which I hope doesn’t happen. 

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8 hours ago, Marc505 said:

What else was he supposed to do though? Not reflect fans opinion on players not being paid for a fortnight?

Fair enough maybe his analysis of the situation might have been different, so what does he do then? Try to justify a 2 week delay in wage payments? Or try to pass it off and accept the party line?

Fair enough I believe he took too many of the more extreme views to heart and began to broadcast them too much. But if he didn't at all? What kind of coverage do we want from our local paper? Twitter carries a bigger representation of fans' views than Wanderers Ways does, whether that's a good or bad thing. 

With everything going on at the club, I don't think Marc Iles is the problem.

 

Your post is the problem. We have someone constantly pulling us apart and never offering so much as a chat with a local star or fan favourite and yet now he’s been fucked off it’s a disgrace. 

 

The echo runs stories all Es all the time supporting both clubs and even tranmere. Just like a local paper should do. 

 

Yes report the bad but the odd chat with the captain etc wouldn’t go a miss

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He had an interview with Alnwick the day before yesterday didn't he? And spoke to players last week. Unfortunately they can't say much more than I know we've only won once in about 17 games but we're working hard to put it right. 

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I'm not sure they are interviews as such

Aren't they more press conferences

 

I think it's a good point to be honest

Relations with Anderson Would be much better if they had sat down informally, Ken with a nice piece of meat and a nice bottle, Lies with spaghetti hoops and lemonade, and just talked for a bit

Lies then writes a story about the new owner

 

Instead, thumbhead chose his side, was fed plenty shit, winders et al,  and burned his bridges

And it's come to this

 

And I still think banning him is a bad idea

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I've no doubt that somewhere amongst the lurkers on here will be a certain BN journo called Mark Iles.

 

Well get this Mr Iles, you aren't speaking for me! You may well be the preferred journalist of the Supporters' Trust but they're yet another group who claim to be speaking for the fans. Well they aren't speaking for me either.

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now i am on kens side on this (as much as one can be considering the circumstances anyway) but tough decision for him today. turn up and take a load of abuse from simpletons, or stay away and stoke the fire further perhaps...

if i was him, im not sure id want to be at the match today...

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I'm sure leatherchops isn't going to be swayed by folks perceptions

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13 minutes ago, HomerJay said:

now i am on kens side on this (as much as one can be considering the circumstances anyway) but tough decision for him today. turn up and take a load of abuse from simpletons, or stay away and stoke the fire further perhaps...

if i was him, im not sure id want to be at the match today...

Most of the simpletons don't go to games - none of those on the BN comments seem to go - but as we've seen before, it only takes a handful of loudmouths waving a couple of bedsheets to get more publicity than their numbers merit, & under the present circumstances, the BN will give them plenty of coverage.

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Just catching up on all this and whatever you think about Iles reporting, banning him is a bad idea and serves no useful purpose..

Just when we've finally got the pay issue sorted and we could hopefully get back to talking about football, these 2 clowns continue to have a go at each other and PP is fielding questions about a local reporter being banned.

I know it's pantomine season but you really couldn't make it up 

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37 minutes ago, HomerJay said:

now i am on kens side on this (as much as one can be considering the circumstances anyway) but tough decision for him today. turn up and take a load of abuse from simpletons, or stay away and stoke the fire further perhaps...

if i was him, im not sure id want to be at the match today...

It’s incredible people are having a dig at ken for none attendance at matches.

There’s only Ruth and that doombar fella who have attended more than him over the last few years.

And he’s not commuting from farnworth.

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10 hours ago, Sluffy said:

 

Maybe if he hadn't deliberately put out on twitter extracts from the accounts about payments to Anderson company for 'consultation' services and joined in the unfounded belief that he was paying himself over half a million in year in wages, then all his twitter followers wouldn't have taken it as gospel that Anderson (and his son) were!

 

He is, though

He took 525k as a fee

Then it looks like he used it to buy the club 

He can spend his wages on what he wants

But that is what it looks like he did, he paid himself then he bought the club for himself

Do you think he'd have bought the club outright without the fee?

I'm not saying he's done anything untoward, but it looks like he paid himself so he could buy all the shares

Do you think there is a more plausible scenario?

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