Moderators Zico Posted September 11, 2019 Moderators Share Posted September 11, 2019 On 09/09/2019 at 11:33, Big E said: top effort. I am injured at the moment and its killing me. i didnt realise how much runnings helps you feel good. Whats the salford run like ? It's alright, pretty flat, though the starting line area was a bit small and was very busy, pain in the arse getting over the starting line and getting going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted September 11, 2019 Moderators Share Posted September 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Smiley said: Top effort! Do you have a cheeky pose in front of the full-length mirror when your Mrs is out at work? Cheeky wank, yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 13 hours ago, ZicoKelly said: It's alright, pretty flat, though the starting line area was a bit small and was very busy, pain in the arse getting over the starting line and getting going That’s the problem when you are fast. Us waddlers are fine ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Yeah - got back to under 45 for 10km, looks like the half is still on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Bolton marathon, returns after 32 years, whos in? one poster was out as quick as he was in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 3 hours ago, L/H White said: Bolton marathon, returns after 32 years, whos in? 26.2 pints down Halliwell & Blackburn Road into town? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Advice needed please from the runners amongst us after a year of excess so far I’ve decided to shift some timber. Used to run but never seriously but want to get into it I can’t really do gym due to a neck issue so running is really my only choice what would be best suggestion. Is it pick is route map it out and then basically try run it and keep doing same route and see when I can comfortably run it then extend the route? or would one of these couch to 10k programmes be better? Mix of running and walking intervals ? cheers in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave2980 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Couch to 5k would be a good start, followed by your local park run if you have one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Thanks. I can run for about ten mins comfortably so will pick a suitable starting point in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Escobarp said: Advice needed please from the runners amongst us after a year of excess so far I’ve decided to shift some timber. Used to run but never seriously but want to get into it I can’t really do gym due to a neck issue so running is really my only choice what would be best suggestion. Is it pick is route map it out and then basically try run it and keep doing same route and see when I can comfortably run it then extend the route? or would one of these couch to 10k programmes be better? Mix of running and walking intervals ? cheers in advance The NHS couch to 5k app is pretty good. Especially if you want coaching from Michael Johnson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Escobarp said: Advice needed please from the runners amongst us after a year of excess so far I’ve decided to shift some timber. Used to run but never seriously but want to get into it I can’t really do gym due to a neck issue so running is really my only choice what would be best suggestion. Is it pick is route map it out and then basically try run it and keep doing same route and see when I can comfortably run it then extend the route? or would one of these couch to 10k programmes be better? Mix of running and walking intervals ? cheers in advance Take it nice and steady. Run till your out of breath then stop and walk till you can talk normally. You wont be burning any body fat whilst chugging along gasping for air. Get some beats going, preferably some dance stuff that you can run to the beat. Helped me massively that did. I’m on full gabba techno now haha Have a big fuck off coffee before you go and get your stretches done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, gonzo said: Take it nice and steady. Run till your out of breath then stop and walk till you can talk normally. You wont be burning any body fat whilst chugging along gasping for air. Get some beats going, preferably some dance stuff that you can run to the beat. Helped me massively that did. I’m on full gabba techno now haha Have a big fuck off coffee before you go and get your stretches done. Don’t drink coffee and thinking a line won’t have the desired effect 👀 about to head out now see how far I can manage got to start somewhere though 💪🏽 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Well did the half yesterday, much slower than Manchester but pleased to get some further miles in the legs. Id say it’s different for everyone, don’t rush, build into it and don’t run against your watch - you won’t enjoy it. I don’t run with music, prefer just to concentrate on the run and for long distance it becomes a bit of a calming thing, it’s a cliche but run the mile your in really just chills me out, listening to your breathing, what’s hurting, what isn’t etc Also find what distance works for you, my fav is a fast 10k - doesn’t kill you or take up your day. I like doing hill repeats as well and those really help in the longer runs. The couch to 5k didn’t work for me, I preferred just to go but I did injure myself thinking I was fitter than I was - my muscles just couldn’t cope without building them up first. Get some decent trainers - go to Run and Become in Edinburgh, they’ll measure your gait and you can try on. Bit more expensive but then I re-buy the old season’s trainers on Amazon for about £40 less - and if you’re not bother about the colourways you can get much cheaper. After three years, I still love it, much fitter, can have ale and burn it off and sorts my head out - just a 20 min 5k will cheer me up. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just back. 2 miles covered in 22 minutes that was a lot of running and a couple of walking intervals (needed as was blowing out my arse. Thoroughly enjoyed it and will rest up tomorrow and then back out Wednesday. I agree with you NIC no music I find the sound of the run quite therapeutic and allows me to concentrate on my breathing and get into a rhythm aim is to do 5km without stopping within 4 weeks so it’s a start thanks for all the advice park run first weekend in November is the target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Yeah - you’ll find your own way to enjoy it, I’ve slowed down a lot recently just to enjoy the run rather than burning it all the time as it was just becoming about the pain to push further and faster, which wasn’t why I took it up in the first place. Top work though, right - time to sign up to a race! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted October 1, 2019 Members Share Posted October 1, 2019 Walking football and a hybrid Weight Watchers programe. Works for me in no time. Now winter is over down here, much easier to avoid the stodgy food cravings. 5 kilos in a fortnight. Still another 3-5 to go to get back to my perfect feighting weight. The first 5 kilos is always fairly easy, goes much slower now but it does go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 16 hours ago, Escobarp said: Advice needed please from the runners amongst us after a year of excess so far I’ve decided to shift some timber. Used to run but never seriously but want to get into it I can’t really do gym due to a neck issue so running is really my only choice what would be best suggestion. Is it pick is route map it out and then basically try run it and keep doing same route and see when I can comfortably run it then extend the route? or would one of these couch to 10k programmes be better? Mix of running and walking intervals ? cheers in advance I had never run before and did the couch to 5k. I have now completed 3 half marathons in 2019 (Albeit currently injured but thats another story). I found getting out for time and monitoring it via strava has helped. being able to run for 30 minutes should be the initial target. to keep it interesting mix sessions between hill sessions, sprint sessions / speed work and distance sessions. Park run is a great way to get you moving. Pick a couple of races you fancy and build up to them that way. DO NOT do too much too soon or you will hate it and stop. Oh and make sure you have some proper running trainers, get to a running shop and get your gate done. running in shit shoes is no good for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Yeah, i need to get back on it as I've gone to shit this year too. I went on two runs last month the first one went ok but on the second one both my achilles were sore before i started, but like a dickhead i still went on it and as a result i could barely walk after 😂 Just bought myself some new 11 & 1/2 moon boots. And I'm getting right now so gonna try again later this week or next. No doubt I'll be spraying myself with WD40 before and after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) Perhaps better advice for spring and summer but I always try and run pathways rather than roads - you're away from direct traffic polllution which has an alarming effect on o2 sats and heartrate, the surfaces are usually more uniform and there's less crossings. My usual run is along the old Bolton-Eccles line, 6km circuit from my front door with two nice climbs and only Minerva Road, Plodder Lane and Highfield Road to cross. If you get a tracking app (Mapmyride is good and free, the basic one) you can monitor your progress and look at stats etc. If you've access to a cheap gym to use a treadmill that's another way to build stamina and not slack off during winter (until you're fully converted and religious) - more incline than speed will get your fitness levels up, imo there's no point tanking along like Seb Coe on the flat or a slight incline, metres climbed/minutes is a good yardstick to measure fitness by - then there's this calculator which then gives you your 'flat' stats. https://42.195km.net/e/treadsim/ You'll soon be looking like the rest of us - anorexic Clint Eastwoods with bad A.I.D.s. 😉 Edited October 1, 2019 by Youri McAnespie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Oh aye, each to their own but I reckon' this gait analysis is hokum - I even think I run quickest in a pancaked pair of ZX where I can feel even the tiniest stone the sole has worn so thin. I almost never get (running) injuries (cue ten month layoff) - as I've got fitter (and older) and more in tune I've no doubt adapted my running style to a better one, rather than plowing on running like a m0ngo with special m0ngo shoes 😐 It's a sport and should be refined as such, we don't persist in doggy paddling or toebunging footballs, so why don't we change our running styles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Thanks all for the advice and encouragement. I have running trainers which have been selected to suit my running(plodding gait). I have a 2 mile circuit that I am just going to keep attempting every other day until I can run it none stop and then add to it. On my days in between I am just doing some walking to keep my legs from seizing up. Struggle with a neck issue so can’t get down the gym and do weights etc which is unfortunate. Likely to require surgery end of year so Aim is to try and lose 10kg between now and Xmas when I would be having my surgery . Booze is going out the window in the main and junk food. Strange time of year to embark on a weight loss plan but I feel shocking and enough is enough time for change and figure I will be laid up a while post op so want to try and get myself in a good place whether 10kg in 12 weeks is realistic I’m not sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Thanks all for the advice and encouragement. I have running trainers which have been selected to suit my running(plodding gait). I have a 2 mile circuit that I am just going to keep attempting every other day until I can run it none stop and then add to it. On my days in between I am just doing some walking to keep my legs from seizing up. Struggle with a neck issue so can’t get down the gym and do weights etc which is unfortunate. Likely to require surgery end of year so Aim is to try and lose 10kg between now and Xmas when I would be having my surgery . Booze is going out the window in the main and junk food. Strange time of year to embark on a weight loss plan but I feel shocking and enough is enough time for change and figure I will be laid up a while post op so want to try and get myself in a good place whether 10kg in 12 weeks is realistic I’m not sure! I've had problems with my knee and hip recently and it has been down to not doing the squats etc. They are shit but you need to build your legs up if you intend to run or you will struggle long term. it will also allow you to get better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Also after long runs, it kills my appetite, as the body moves way to just working on the essentials to keep you moving, so its not until the day after I can eat properly again, or I feel sick, I just have to have small amounts or fruit. Burnt over 6,000 kcals on sunday, what you learn is how much bad food contributes - a burning 5km is abut the same as a burger, ts not worth eating the shit once you've put in the good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I would definitely listen to what Youri has advised. After a couple of years of intermittently running various road circuits close to where I live (anything from a 3km - 10km loop) - I was doing pretty well, but then an injury or two and I totally lost interest. TBH I had probably already lost interest - road running is just so boring. And there's the added dangers of being mown over. A week or so ago I decided to give the running a go again but avoided the roads and opted for Sale & Chorlton waterparks. Did a 2.8km loop of the Sale lake - quite slow at 15-20 mins, got back to the car, had a drink of water. Took off a layer and then cracked on with running down to Chorlton and a loop of that lake before returning to the car. Took about 32 mins. Scenery was worthwhile, no cars, no headphone.... oh and it was sunny. Enjoyed it so much I went back and did it again 2 days later. And quite a bit faster. Decided that I'd much sooner do that now - worth the 10 min drive out. I've done Entwistle & Wayoh many moons ago - and think they'd be a similar interesting run away from the roads. Will probably head up there and entertain that soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, Escobarp said: whether 10kg in 12 weeks is realistic I’m not sure! Aim for inches, belt notches, etc, instead. Weight can be a downer if you don't achieve certain goals. Whereas you'll notice clothing slackening off immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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