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1 minute ago, ZicoKelly said:

my "issue" isn't so much who are they and what are their comments worth, but that commment about their treatment of the BN and esteemed Marc Iles make it look like the BN wrote an article then worked through a list of famous Bolton fans till someone offered to put their name to it

and if that was the case, clearly most of the list didn't reply

I don't see why. They approached the BN - so says the BN editor. 

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4 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

I don't see why. They approached the BN - so says the BN editor. 

ok, let's assume they did

do you think this was a direct quote?

"We have seen Marc Iles, the esteemed journalist from the Bolton News, having his credentials withdrawn after asking legitimate questions about the way the club is being run. "

seems a contrived statement to me

also, I wonder when they say

"We can no longer stand idly by and watch our club being treated like this. "

what can they do out of interest, I wonder

get stuck in ladies

 

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Just now, ZicoKelly said:

ok, let's assume they did

do you think this was a direct quote?

"We have seen Marc Iles, the esteemed journalist from the Bolton News, having his credentials withdrawn after asking legitimate questions about the way the club is being run. "

seems a contrived statement to me

also, I wonder when they say

"We can no longer stand idly by and watch our club being treated like this. "

what can they do out of interest, I wonder

get stuck in ladies

 

I seems absolutely what someone would write. Christ I see that sort of thing all over twitter.

Why wouldn't someone write that, especially when they are going to ask said publication to publish their words?

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9 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

I seems absolutely what someone would write. Christ I see that sort of thing all over twitter.

Why wouldn't someone write that, especially when they are going to ask said publication to publish their words?

So what exactly are they going to do by this not standing by, other than spouting off in the BN? 

 

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and now we've got mcginlay on about how we treat other businesses

arf

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I can remember Anne Taylor (& Frank White ) being supporters of the club from way back that should'nt be an issue .However I dont believe that the BN dont have a agenda here.

Even Iles match report which lamented the lowest post war 3rd round fa cup attendance (although factually correct) spun the disatisfaction angle too much imo as we have had lower fa cup & league cup attendances than saturdays altough  not third round ones 

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9 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

I seems absolutely what someone would write. Christ I see that sort of thing all over twitter.

Why wouldn't someone write that, especially when they are going to ask said publication to publish their words?

I guess you either place value in that article, or don't

I don't see any value whatsoever in this apparent proactive letter which supports the BN and is crticial of KA

it brings nothing new to the table

unless it's the start of a movement by the baronesses to instigate change, it looks more like a attempt by the BN to say the people of bolton back us in our campaign against KA

utterly pointless

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1 hour ago, Casino said:

taylor has watched us years

directors box at burnden

in my blurry memory, goes back to at least late 70s

doesnt make her comments any more useful

She was an MP if my memory serves me correct, pretty decent one as well.

As fans there is eff all we can do, apart from turn up and support our crap team, i don't work at BWFC or pretend i know what is going on behind the scenes, we are all allowed opinions and we may not agree with them, unfortunately these days some people have their own agenda's like Iles & Bonnar, but that's the media, press and broadcasters across the country these days, they report everything as facist and right wing!! Social Media doesn't help, it puts everything out there and things get misinterpreted or you end up looking like a cnut.

Both Baronesses are still in need of a good you know what though :spiteful:

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5 minutes ago, Casino said:

and now we've got mcginlay on about how we treat other businesses

arf

aye

how many pubs has he now done a runner from with the takings?

not to mention the £2K he still owes a poster on here

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All this we are not going to stand by and let this happen crap, throwing tennis balls on the pitch to tell Ken we don't like him will do fuck all, I think he knows he's not popular he just needs to look at the idiots on twitter. I think people actually turning up for the West brom game and supporting the team would look better to a prospective buyer IMO. Also parky actually setting up and trying to win the game on a more regular basis would also help, the second half on Saturday was probably the best entertainment I've seen all season more of the same would be great. 

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1 hour ago, Casino said:

taylor has watched us years

directors box at burnden

in my blurry memory, goes back to at least late 70s

doesnt make her comments any more useful

Wasnt she classed as our "celebrity fan" in the seventies/eighties??

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12 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

I guess you either place value in that article, or don't

I don't see any value whatsoever in this apparent proactive letter which supports the BN and is crticial of KA

it brings nothing new to the table

unless it's the start of a movement by the baronesses to instigate change, it looks more like a attempt by the BN to say the people of bolton back us in our campaign against KA

utterly pointless

Hang on a minute. You've changed the argument.

Initially your point was "no way did they write this". You're now saying there is "no point to it". 

That is a bit different. They wanted to convey their opinion. They've done so via the BN. I agree it is a bit pointless but raising the issues is all anyone can do currently. And hope. 

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Ann Taylor is a extremely passionate wanderers fan and her knowledge of the club and past games is excellent, ive also bumped into her at the England v Argentina game in Japan 2002 and she made a b-line for me when she saw my shirt.  Frank White loves the Wanderers, very passionate about them.   So my thoughts are theyre entitled to their opinion.

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9 hours ago, jmjhb said:

Have Vernon Kay or Amir Khan weighed in yet?

 

Nobody is interested in Amir or what he has to say, because he drives badly.....

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34 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Hang on a minute. You've changed the argument.

Initially your point was "no way did they write this". You're now saying there is "no point to it". 

That is a bit different. They wanted to convey their opinion. They've done so via the BN. I agree it is a bit pointless but raising the issues is all anyone can do currently. And hope. 

I've not changed the arguement, I answered your next question "Why wouldn't someone write that, especially when they are going to ask said publication to publish their words?"

I don't think they wrote it, because I think it's pointless, and think it looks more like an attempt by the BN to show they have the people's backing

to be clear, the whole article reads to me like a heavily influenced BN led article, and not an email/letter or whatever sent off the baronesses own back (i.e. I doubt they made the first move), of which their is little substance or point that brings absolutely nothing new to the whole debacle

argue away but there's nowt you can see that will sway me away from thinking that

 

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Everyone’s entitled to their opinion. Christ there’s pages on here, the papers website, social media, everywhere 

no one is disputing that. They obviously feel giving their opinion & printing it in the local rag will help. I don’t feel it will 

what is it going to achieve? Absolutely nothing. What are they going to do except comment? Absolutely Nothing. 

Waste of paper, web page space and discussion on here. 

 

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1 hour ago, Breightmet Boy said:

Ann Taylor is a extremely passionate wanderers fan and her knowledge of the club and past games is excellent, ive also bumped into her at the England v Argentina game in Japan 2002 and she made a b-line for me when she saw my shirt.  Frank White loves the Wanderers, very passionate about them.   So my thoughts are theyre entitled to their opinion.

Do you think that they may be in a position to genuinely make a positive impact on the situation?

I'm not looking to gripe at all, as anyone is entitled to an opinion. It's just that nothing changes.

Could they possibly be in a position to get genuine high worth folk together for example, maybe to look at a takeover.

Just chucking it out there, as the only way to get Ken away is to have a group or individual genuinely interested in buying him out.

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Heard the BN will be printing an article about Ken selling up his home and moving to New Zealand to get away from all the haters. :D

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4 hours ago, Mr Grey said:

These 2 have put zilch in over the years, they were on freebies all the way, and only when we were in the EPL.  Probably back to being Man Utd fans now.

I think Mr Grey was relating to Amir and Vernon with this comment.

Amir - possibly back at Utd.

Vernon - always been a Bolton fan as far as I'm aware. And was seen at games outside the EPL on many an occasion prior to the EPL success. Don't remember there being any link to him being a Utd fan. But I could stand to be corrected.

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2 hours ago, Casino said:

taylor has watched us years

directors box at burnden

in my blurry memory, goes back to at least late 70s

doesnt make her comments any more useful

I agree opinions no more valid than any other Wanderers fan but for me more valid than just some non-fan 'famous' person the BN could drag up (that will be next once they've decided which way round the Forest Green Chairman's name goes)

Anyway as been said Ann Taylor is a fan definitely. Think her place in comfy seats might be a thing of the past now tho.

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Ann Taylor would regularly sponsor a BWFC player back when we were at BP and has supported us for as long as I can remember. No bandwaggon jumping here or indeed 'going back to watching Man Utd'.

By speaking out the baronesses may not achieve anything tangible right now, but I don't think it's fair to criticise them just because they haven't got all the answers. None of us have. I think it's really unfair and wrong-headed to be having a go at them tbh. Just my four penneth.

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2 minutes ago, Burnden Pies said:

Ann Taylor would regularly sponsor a BWFC player back when we were at BP and has supported us for as long as I can remember. No bandwaggon jumping here or indeed 'going back to watching Man Utd'.

By speaking out the baronesses may not achieve anything tangible right now, but I don't think it's fair to criticise them just because they haven't got all the answers. None of us have. I think it's really unfair and wrong-headed to be having a go at them tbh. Just my four penneth.

I think it’s less about their opinions and the BN using them as a tool in their agenda which is the gripe 

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1 minute ago, Smiley said:

I think Mr Grey was relating to Amir and Vernon with this comment.

Amir - possibly back at Utd.

Vernon - always been a Bolton fan as far as I'm aware. And was seen at games outside the EPL on many an occasion prior to the EPL success. Don't remember there being any link to him being a Utd fan. But I could stand to be corrected.

Yes Vernon did bring Tess along a few times and i assume he's still a white, not seen him since we dropped out of the EPL, mind you he was keeping his head down after the sexting episode.

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Posted (edited)

I stood next to vernon Kay away at Oxford 99ish. Recognised him from that UK play channel. 

...and some fly on the wall modelling thing

Edited by gonzo

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The bit about 'esteemed journalist' certainly over egged it for me. Really? Sounded more like an attempt to butter up the Bolton News rather than a fake letter to me. Esteemed my arse 

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