captainmed Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 It’s now very common for me to be stuck behind someone doing 25MPH or less, in a 30 zone. It’s got significantly worse in the last few months and now happens most days. Anyone else? Similary on motorways, folk haven’t got a clue what speed they should be doing anymore. We have the relatively new Smart motorways, with their ever changing speed limits and average speed checks everywhere. Its just easier to stop thinking, switch off, drive slowly and sit in the middle lane and most people do. A slow, cautious driver is often a poor one. Its so bloody frustrating trying to get around these days. Rant over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Whole boroughs in London are now 20mph zones. Imagine being behind people trying to make sure they don’t hit the speed limit... Frustrating as hell, although at rush hour you’d be lucky to hit 20mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: Whole boroughs in London are now 20mph zones. Imagine being behind people trying to make sure they don’t hit the speed limit... Frustrating as hell, although at rush hour you’d be lucky to hit 20mph. Most boroughs in London during the day, 20MPH is a pipedream anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Insurance Black boxes probably have a lot to do with this. Anyone doing less than 60 on a clear motorway should have their licence taken away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, captainmed said: It’s now very common for me to be stuck behind someone doing 25MPH or less, in a 30 zone. It’s got significantly worse in the last few months and now happens most days. Anyone else? Similary on motorways, folk haven’t got a clue what speed they should be doing anymore. We have the relatively new Smart motorways, with their ever changing speed limits and average speed checks everywhere. Its just easier to stop thinking, switch off, drive slowly and sit in the middle lane and most people do. A slow, cautious driver is often a poor one. Its so bloody frustrating trying to get around these days. Rant over... You do realise 30 mph is the speed limit and not the speed they should be driving at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmed Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: You do realise 30 mph is the speed limit and not the speed they should be driving at? Ahhh so that’s why. Thanks for pointing that out. Never thought of it like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Just now, captainmed said: Ahhh so that’s why. Thanks for pointing that out. Never thought of it like that. So why start a thread about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 So many dickheads on the road - I'm not really that arsed if somebody is doing 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 18, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: So why start a thread about it? to get to the bottom of it and/or have a moan as our driver instructor always said, it's a speed maximum, not minimum don't get me wrong, being a bit of a maverick I'll aim to drive bang on at least and won't be afraid to do 5 or 10 miles over the limit if I'm in a rush it's just not worth getting mard about someone else unless they are driving dangerously, which doing 25 in a 30 alone, isn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) Aye like frank said these boxes are the key. I’ve sat behind a few that have sticker saying they have one in and can’t go above the limit. Surely every car will end up with one. my father in laws drives the vans for Iceland, they are tracked. His driving performance affects his pay! He cant even change a route that they give him, even though he will know a shortcut etc. Edited January 18, 2019 by gonzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkonion Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I've no issue with anyone driving below the limit on a motorway as such, it's only when they don't keep to the left unless overtaking that it becomes a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 18, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 hours ago, captainmed said: It’s now very common for me to be stuck behind someone doing 25MPH or less, in a 30 zone. It’s got significantly worse in the last few months and now happens most days. Anyone else? Similary on motorways, folk haven’t got a clue what speed they should be doing anymore. We have the relatively new Smart motorways, with their ever changing speed limits and average speed checks everywhere. Its just easier to stop thinking, switch off, drive slowly and sit in the middle lane and most people do. A slow, cautious driver is often a poor one. Its so bloody frustrating trying to get around these days. Rant over... If you're driving a blue Audi you held me up the other night , you doddering owd fool And you should've bought the model with indicators Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted January 19, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2019 I’ve no problem with people driving slowly, it’s the wankers who knowingly drive in the wrong lane to cut in further down who get my goat. junction 8 on the M65 heading towards Burnley, number of times people drive down the left slip road as if to head to Padiham then carry on right round pisses me right off. Only once have I managed to hold my ground and at the right speed to force one of these dicks back onto the M65. Yes it did feel good too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted January 19, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2019 My driving instructor always taught me to drive at the speed limit of the road if conditions allow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 With the "Smart motorways" coming in more and more soon we will only be doing 70 on the motorway. if cameras are on all the time. i don't get why we aren't allowed 80 on a motorway considering how much vehicles have advanced since limits were introduced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, Big E said: With the "Smart motorways" coming in more and more soon we will only be doing 70 on the motorway. if cameras are on all the time. i don't get why we aren't allowed 80 on a motorway considering how much vehicles have advanced since limits were introduced It was due to be changed to 80 a few years back then there was an absolutely massive smash on the M1 and the idea was retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmed Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) My son, aged 20 now, is in his 3rd year on a Black Box insurance. Despite being told, he drives too fast (learned behaviour), and subsequently has always been on a “Bronze”. He had a couple of warnings from the insurance company in the early days but nothing more. Every year the insurance (kept with Admiral) has fallen considerably (as you would expect as he gets older). However It’s now only £520 PA fully comp for his 3rd year, with his parents as named drivers. That price was achieved with a lot of analysis on comparison sites and haggling, and has always been paid up front. The point is, as long as you don’t have any points, then it would appear (in our case anyway) that the box is simply a deterrent and poor data does not necessarily higher insurance premiums. If it does then the haggling can offset it. He drives a Fiesta zetec. It’s only 1 litre but it has a turbo in it. Edited January 19, 2019 by captainmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted January 19, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2019 Get a GPS speedo app. It's surprising how much your car speedo is out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancWanderer Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I have no issue with relatively slow driving in built up areas. I’ve had a kid run out of in front of me from between parked cars (luckily I was going slow enough to stop) and I was a passenger in my mums car on the way to junior school when a girl ran out from in front of a bus on Belmont Road - my mum was doing about 20mph but she still came over the bonnet and smashed the windscreen. Both still live with me to this day Motorways? Front wheel blowouts are why I don’t tend to do over 75 mph these days. A girl at work years ago died after it happened - lost all control at high speed Lane-hoggers, lack of indicators, cutting in at the last minute, tail-gating, not understanding who has right of way at roundabouts are all things to get more het up about than slow driving imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted January 19, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2019 9 hours ago, frank_spencer said: It was due to be changed to 80 a few years back then there was an absolutely massive smash on the M1 and the idea was retired. One crash wouldn’t , and didn’t, prevent the raise to 80 on its own. Research into to the increased probable accident rates, the results of those accidents, the extra fuel consumption leading to extra carbon emissions for the negligible benefit, the increase in speed difference between vehicles unable to do 80, trucks and coaches etc leading to brake wave congestion , leading to more carbon emissions and the general unsuitability of the network led to the proposal being shelved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 19, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2019 People who hog the middle lane on a motorway when they should be in the left hand lane - they should be taken from their cars, shot to death and their vehicle sold to pay for the inconvenience they are on a level with nonces as far as I’m concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QFPants Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Worst for me is those doing 40 in a 50. Not so much a problem u til it drops from 50 to 30 and they crack on doing 40, on a different planet. someone doing a few miles below the limit is nothing to get worked up about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 All residential streets are now 20mph in Lancashire, at least that’s the way I was told it was going on a speed awareness course a few years back fuckers on the motorway sat in the middle lane doing 65-70 with nothing in Lane 1 should be shot, simple as that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Believe it or not, I think UK driving standards and behaviour are generally good. Fucking awful here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffer cup 07 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 80% of drivers who insist on sitting in the middle lane on Motorways are women, they seem frightened of swapping lanes. A bigger problem is lorries driving side by side attempting to overtake mile after mile, holding up other traffic. on a four lane motorway surely lorries shouldn't be allowed in the third lane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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