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15 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said:

Connell made loads of mistakes last night that would have got Noone for example crucified by the crowd. He isn't Messi, he might not even be Bannan but he sees how the fans behave and he'd probably sign a contract for Rochdale if they came in tonight for him.

Donaldson did everything he could possibly do last night, was far better than Ameobi who really is stealing a living most of the time.

Don't get people booing Lowe if he even puts a foot wrong, for me if he isn't there doing the thankless work he does we would be gone already.

Realistically we are 2 wins away from where we need to be so it's still very much game on for staying up.

From reading on here it seems to me like a lot of folk on here would carry on supporting ie paying to watch regardless of level we were at so drama queening or claiming losing 4-2 every week but playing tipi tapi football would be better is a load of bollocks. If KA was confirmed today as owner and PP as manager with same players as we have now I would renew my season ticket now, not cos I'm an uber fan like most here just cos that's the truth.

Know this reply has been disjointed but last thing is that far fewer people where I am in ESU left early last night, initially thought they had stayed to boo but that wasn't it at all, leave that open as to why it was though.

Maybe there were fewer to start with?

Why do you reference tippi-tappy football- people just want to see players being able to complete basic five years passes, make a run into the box, be able to cross a ball without hitting first man etc.

We're losing every week, so why not at least try to play a bit: something different. Who knows it might catch on and players (current or prospective) might just think "they're trying something here, not just the stale, out dated dross previously witnessed"

It isn't a request to watch Barcelona, just to have something to enjoy.

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Depends how much their strikers cost? if it’s more than ours then we have an excuse early doors

Good. Better live than red.

He definitely will have the stadium to himself soon. Look im not proud of it and fair play to all who keep turning up especially away ( nutters!) but i just cant take it anymore. I am a ST holder and

24 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said:

Connell made loads of mistakes last night that would have got Noone for example crucified by the crowd. He isn't Messi, he might not even be Bannan but he sees how the fans behave and he'd probably sign a contract for Rochdale if they came in tonight for him.

Donaldson did everything he could possibly do last night, was far better than Ameobi who really is stealing a living most of the time.

Don't get people booing Lowe if he even puts a foot wrong, for me if he isn't there doing the thankless work he does we would be gone already.

Realistically we are 2 wins away from where we need to be so it's still very much game on for staying up.

From reading on here it seems to me like a lot of folk on here would carry on supporting ie paying to watch regardless of level we were at so drama queening or claiming losing 4-2 every week but playing tipi tapi football would be better is a load of bollocks. If KA was confirmed today as owner and PP as manager with same players as we have now I would renew my season ticket now, not cos I'm an uber fan like most here just cos that's the truth.

Know this reply has been disjointed but last thing is that far fewer people where I am in ESU left early last night, initially thought they had stayed to boo but that wasn't it at all, leave that open as to why it was though.

If Parkinson is here next season you will probably be on your own in ESU

in fact you won’t top tiers to be shut 

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26 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said:

Connell made loads of mistakes last night that would have got Noone for example crucified by the crowd. He isn't Messi, he might not even be Bannan but he sees how the fans behave and he'd probably sign a contract for Rochdale if they came in tonight for him.

Donaldson did everything he could possibly do last night, was far better than Ameobi who really is stealing a living most of the time.

Don't get people booing Lowe if he even puts a foot wrong, for me if he isn't there doing the thankless work he does we would be gone already.

Realistically we are 2 wins away from where we need to be so it's still very much game on for staying up.

From reading on here it seems to me like a lot of folk on here would carry on supporting ie paying to watch regardless of level we were at so drama queening or claiming losing 4-2 every week but playing tipi tapi football would be better is a load of bollocks. If KA was confirmed today as owner and PP as manager with same players as we have now I would renew my season ticket now, not cos I'm an uber fan like most here just cos that's the truth.

Know this reply has been disjointed but last thing is that far fewer people where I am in ESU left early last night, initially thought they had stayed to boo but that wasn't it at all, leave that open as to why it was though.

Ha ha......is that you Phil???????????

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21 minutes ago, anthonyj said:

Ha ha......is that you Phil???????????

He definitely will have the stadium to himself soon. Look im not proud of it and fair play to all who keep turning up especially away ( nutters!) but i just cant take it anymore. I am a ST holder and dont even begrudge paying for not going- god knows the club needs the money. I am struggling to put it in words but its not just the awful state of the club and i certainly dont expect a thriller on the pitch every week - you cant when youve been a wanderer for over 40 years! But please Ken put us out of our misery get rid of this manager even if it doesnt work we just cant go on like this.lets go down at least trying to play football and actually having a go instead of this boring, soul destroying tedious embarrassing shite week aftet fucking week . I know the players we have are poor quality wise but there must be someone who can organise this lot better we just cant go on like this its purgatory! 

 

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29 minutes ago, snowball said:

He definitely will have the stadium to himself soon. Look im not proud of it and fair play to all who keep turning up especially away ( nutters!) but i just cant take it anymore. I am a ST holder and dont even begrudge paying for not going- god knows the club needs the money. I am struggling to put it in words but its not just the awful state of the club and i certainly dont expect a thriller on the pitch every week - you cant when youve been a wanderer for over 40 years! But please Ken put us out of our misery get rid of this manager even if it doesnt work we just cant go on like this.lets go down at least trying to play football and actually having a go instead of this boring, soul destroying tedious embarrassing shite week aftet fucking week . I know the players we have are poor quality wise but there must be someone who can organise this lot better we just cant go on like this its purgatory! 

 

Agreed. I'd rather my team got relegated trying not to be than relegated and can't be arsed.

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2 hours ago, ErnestTurnip said:

Connell made loads of mistakes last night that would have got Noone for example crucified by the crowd. He isn't Messi, he might not even be Bannan but he sees how the fans behave and he'd probably sign a contract for Rochdale if they came in tonight for him.

Donaldson did everything he could possibly do last night, was far better than Ameobi who really is stealing a living most of the time.

Don't get people booing Lowe if he even puts a foot wrong, for me if he isn't there doing the thankless work he does we would be gone already.

Realistically we are 2 wins away from where we need to be so it's still very much game on for staying up.

From reading on here it seems to me like a lot of folk on here would carry on supporting ie paying to watch regardless of level we were at so drama queening or claiming losing 4-2 every week but playing tipi tapi football would be better is a load of bollocks. If KA was confirmed today as owner and PP as manager with same players as we have now I would renew my season ticket now, not cos I'm an uber fan like most here just cos that's the truth.

Know this reply has been disjointed but last thing is that far fewer people where I am in ESU left early last night, initially thought they had stayed to boo but that wasn't it at all, leave that open as to why it was though.

We have accumulated 8 points from a possible 57, 1 win in 19.

its s a crime, that we are still paying him, probably a big wage, to continue with his job. In the real world, or any other club, he’d have gotten sacked.

At the end of the day, we all pay money, largely for entertainment. We weant to be entertained by the club we’ve invested in. And right nose Bolton couldn’t be further away from an exciting, entertaining club to watch. And that’s also down to the manager 

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5 hours ago, Lostock Whites said:

Literally every home game I’ve seen this season, last season, and even most matches in League 1, against shocking teams like Chesterfield, they would come to our place, in front of all the home supporters, and they would outplay us. 

Agree with your post pal and this bit particularly resonated with me.  I remember that day well. £5 to get in and we had 23000 on against a side on their way to the conference.

With Madine out injured I watched through my fingers as we kept twatting long high balls out of Alfs reach and kept surrendering possession. Chesterfield dominated us that day and should have won since Parky did nothing to change from his tried and trusted formula. He did well to get us up that year but games like that exposed his limitations

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14 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

Agree with your post pal and this bit particularly resonated with me.  I remember that day well. £5 to get in and we had 23000 on against a side on their way to the conference.

With Madine out injured I watched through my fingers as we kept twatting long high balls out of Alfs reach and kept surrendering possession. Chesterfield dominated us that day and should have won since Parky did nothing to change from his tried and trusted formula. He did well to get us up that year but games like that exposed his limitations

Had a scroll through our results that season earlier when thinking about the dross served up. There's great memories from many of those games but not many to do with the football.

In fact I remember a few calling for Parky out after Oxford had dominated us at home and then later Bristol Rovers and AFC Wimbledon took points off us at home in successive games. For me that was far too early to be calling for a manager's head but it did show how poor our performances were again and again.

Lost count of the number of times we took absolute hordes away all over only to get beat often without even looking like scoring. And you wonder how many will go again next time...

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If we carry on at our current rate of scoring, we will finish on 30 goals for the season. That'll be the lowest total ever in a 24 team second-tier. 31 years, 744 teams.

It would take this season's team 153 games to reach the number of goals we scored when Todd took us up. That'd be approximately sometime in October 2021.

Nobody can seriously be using the 'What do you expect, Barcelona?' card.

 

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11 hours ago, Tombwfc said:

If we carry on at our current rate of scoring, we will finish on 30 goals for the season. That'll be the lowest total ever in a 24 team second-tier. 31 years, 744 teams.

It would take this season's team 153 games to reach the number of goals we scored when Todd took us up. That'd be approximately sometime in October 2021.

Nobody can seriously be using the 'What do you expect, Barcelona?' card.

 

Kinell Tom; that's joyous reading! 

If he is still here in October 2021, there'll be tumbleweed rolling round the stands, with the kiosks resembling the Carlsberg customer complaints office.

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14 hours ago, Duck Egg said:

Agree with your post pal and this bit particularly resonated with me.  I remember that day well. £5 to get in and we had 23000 on against a side on their way to the conference.

With Madine out injured I watched through my fingers as we kept twatting long high balls out of Alfs reach and kept surrendering possession. Chesterfield dominated us that day and should have won since Parky did nothing to change from his tried and trusted formula. He did well to get us up that year but games like that exposed his limitations

Me too, that bit really brought it back to me how bad we were in so many games.  Its just weird that we ended up being "better" than all but Sheff U that season, when I didn't see more than 2 or 3 teams that appeared to play worse than us in terms of being co-ordinated and having a clear plan of attacking as a team.  The other thing that brings our lack of quality home, is when I see the goals from Divs 1 and 2.  Genuinely half of them couldn't be scored by us, we don't have the personnel to strike a ball like the goals you see scored week after week, really cracking shots from distance or cool, composed finishes by strikers that are born to score goals at a decent level.  Yet we know that Oz is well capable of scoring those goals, and so is ALF, OK not 20 a season in the championship but half a dozen each would have kept us up with a proper manager.

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17 hours ago, Lostock Whites said:

At the end of the day, we all pay money, largely for entertainment. We want to be entertained by the club we’ve invested in. And right nose Bolton couldn’t be further away from an exciting, entertaining club to watch. And that’s also down to the manager 

Now here's where folk differ when we talk about entertainment value. 

If you're there for the entertainment then surely losing every game 4-5 would really float your boat. 

Personally, I couldn't give a flying fuck about edge-of-the-seat football. Result first then entertainment.

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2 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Now here's where folk differ when we talk about entertainment value. 

If you're there for the entertainment then surely losing every game 4-5 would really float your boat. 

Personally, I couldn't give a flying fuck about edge-of-the-seat football. Result first then entertainment.

Except that under Parkinson's tenure we're getting neither.

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Irrespective of entertainment levels, for me its about knowing you have a chance to come back from a goal down. To see a bit of a see saw game occasionally. Even in Div 1, if a Parky team is losing especially away, that's generally how it stays. Without stats to back it up, we must have the worst record in the last couple of years for that not just of 92 league teams but probably non league and Scottish too. That's what a dull manager looks like.

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21 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Irrespective of entertainment levels, for me its about knowing you have a chance to come back from a goal down. To see a bit of a see saw game occasionally. Even in Div 1, if a Parky team is losing especially away, that's generally how it stays. Without stats to back it up, we must have the worst record in the last couple of years for that not just of 92 league teams but probably non league and Scottish too. That's what a dull manager looks like.

we came back and scored 5 against walsall

they were even more shit than we are

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