radcliffe white Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, Casino said: Frankly, you and me know fuck all about how good or bad last years team was until we see where they are this coming season I reckon they were league one at best and I'm not having it parkinson thought they were much better when he signed them What we do know is the club was an absolute shit storm and judging Parkinson on all normal measures may well be very wide of the mark I'm not arsed if he stays or goes but I think we will finish higher in the league with him than anybody else realistic And if folk don't turn up, they can fcuk off I'll be there, I've still got a club, so why the fcuk would I not be We will always disagree on Parkinson don’t go down the road of folk can sling it attitude, people spend good money and give good time up watching bolton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter HomerJay Posted July 4, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 4, 2019 44 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: That’s the difference between a good manager and a shit one all this parkinson is working with poor players and loans, utter tosh are they not shit? lets see how many turn up somewhere decent. our best player has gone to forest, and id be surprised if he starts 10 game next season. add on to that all the bollocks off the pitch, how the fuck does parky have a chance. that said, i still want rid, and a clean start. but seeing as time is of the essence, i dont think we have that luxury. SO i will support him as long as he's here. and i think it would be beneficial if every other fucker did too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 4, 2019 Moderators Share Posted July 4, 2019 If they stop after we came so close to having no club, that's up to them No loss to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, HomerJay said: are they not shit? lets see how many turn up somewhere decent. our best player has gone to forest, and id be surprised if he starts 10 game next season. add on to that all the bollocks off the pitch, how the fuck does parky have a chance. that said, i still want rid, and a clean start. but seeing as time is of the essence, i dont think we have that luxury. SO i will support him as long as he's here. and i think it would be beneficial if every other fucker did too Not all of them no fans have been very patient indeed with him but folk are bored of it I’m really surprised he’s stuck about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 What else is he going to do? He's on a salary here (or is meant to be), why would he resign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 35 minutes ago, gonzo said: some of the football on show makes me cry. The only time we played long ball was when we were away from home trying to bully the big boys and there’s fuck all wrong with long ball anyway when you have players prepared for the second ball and want to keep hold of the fuckin thing. Theres a difference between a long ball with a purpose and aimless kick up front to a lump who has nobody to knock the ball down to. Yeah but the 20 long throws per game into the keepers arms by either campo, speed or okocha were pretty shit, pointless and time wasting werent they? Not everything about Parky is crap and not everything about the Big Sam era was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 25 minutes ago, Casino said: If they stop after we came so close to having no club, that's up to them No loss to me When is it ok to say you don’t want the keep it nil nil and don’t concede, oh fuck we conceded game over tactics are wank and not worth bothering with. PP nearly fucked up promotion with a massive budget for players compared to most last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said: Yeah but the 20 long throws per game into the keepers arms by either campo, speed or okocha were pretty shit, pointless and time wasting werent they? Not everything about Parky is crap and not everything about the Big Sam era was great. Who was it said our fans have to moan about anything? Jeesus top 6 in premier league 4 or 5 seasons running, Europe, cup finals, regularly beating the big boys but God i hated those throw ins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 On my wish list I've got a billionaire owner ready to pump £250 million into this transfer window increasing steadily over the next four years until we buy the Premiership and CL and become the most popular and best supported club in the world. Which is about as realistic as some of the shite in this thread and considerably less likely than another 5 to 10 years of trying to get back to where we once were when ED was around on a budget of 10p a week with a manager that we can afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Yes, not everything about the Big Sam era was great, but there's no comparison, the Allardyce era was by far the best and most successful era we ever had. Surely the Charlie Foweraker era was by far and away the most successful era we ever had? I mean 3 FA cups in 6 years? What did we win under Allardyce? Fuck all as I remember it. Edited July 4, 2019 by Hoppy510 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Big E said: When is it ok to say you don’t want the keep it nil nil and don’t concede, oh fuck we conceded game over tactics are wank and not worth bothering with. PP nearly fucked up promotion with a massive budget for players compared to most last time. We had a massive player budget because the club was paying massive wages to shit players signed before Parkys time. If after three years people are still equating the cost of the shit we had acquired with quality/ability I wonder what they have been watching. By this logic all you have to do to improve the team is pay everyone 10% more. Bigger player budget so we must be better. Was n’t Dean Moxey on over £10k per week ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Nobody is wishing for a billionaire, certainly not me, but if one came along I wouldn't complain. Stability would do, with a manager who fancies playing a bit of positive football, and that it might just retain some of our dwindling support. Just saying that we had a good run funded by a rich bloke who loved the club and they don't come along that often so it's time to get real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Just now, Mr Grey said: We are talking the modern era, not pre 1st world war. Sounds to me like you hated the Allardyce era, but you've been loving the fantastic Parky years. Each to their own and all that. Then be specific instead of making wild statements,. No I loved it in the Allardyce years but I don't put that success down to Allardyce although he was lucky enough to be the right man in the right place at the right time IMO. But that window of opportunity is long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hoppy510 said: Surely the Charlie Foweraker era was by far and away the most successful era we ever had? I mean 3 FA cups in 6 years? What did we win under Allardyce? Fuck all as I remember it. Ha ha and you go on about shite on here. You might be able to remember Charles Foweraker but the Big Sam years were the golden years loved it all. Another one bitter to best manager in living memory but full of excuses for Parkinson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 4, 2019 Moderators Share Posted July 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, Ani said: We had a massive player budget because the club was paying massive wages to shit players signed before Parkys time. If after three years people are still equating the cost of the shit we had acquired with quality/ability I wonder what they have been watching. By this logic all you have to do to improve the team is pay everyone 10% more. Bigger player budget so we must be better. Was n’t Dean Moxey on over £10k per week ? And if we are just going off wage bill, I'm sure we would all agree it's no surprise we were shit and relegated last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr Grey said: My wild statement is My opinion. Ffs your calling Allardyce lucky now. As you have quite rightly stated Its the past and long gone, and I want a future without that inept stiff Parkinson in charge. In true Fawlty Towers style, you never mentioned the war in your original post but then pulled it out to qualify your statement later. I do think Allardyce was lucky. He inherited a great squad and an ambitious owner willing to give him what he wanted which is something very few managers get in their lifetimes. That said he recruited well for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted July 5, 2019 Members Share Posted July 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, Hoppy510 said: In true Fawlty Towers style, you never mentioned the war in your original post but then pulled it out to qualify your statement later. I do think Allardyce was lucky. He inherited a great squad and an ambitious owner willing to give him what he wanted which is something very few managers get in their lifetimes. That said he recruited well for the most part. Lucky? FFS - widely credited with innovation in the area of sports science way before others in the UK even thought about it. Brilliant negotiating skills to get the likes of Okocha, Djorkaeff, Hierro, Anelka etc. to come to "little old Bolton". The greatest BWFC manager of recent times and, bearing in mind the level of competition in his era, the greatest ever for my money. All I am saying on the subject so don't bother. Just happy we have been saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 8 hours ago, snowball said: Is baz a dead sea pedestrian then? The correct slur is Red Sea Pedestrian. Jeremy Corbyn just told me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Hoppy510 said: I do think Allardyce was lucky. He inherited a great squad and an ambitious owner willing to give him what he wanted which is something very few managers get in their lifetimes. That said he recruited well for the most part. Great squad when Sam took over?, Bolton were half way in the second tier having lost a play off to Watford the previous season and had never avoided relegation from the Premier League Eddie Davies provided bugger all of a transfer warchest compared to Fulham and Blackburn who had far more expensive and talented squads than Sam got Bolton promoted with.Sam was a genius who spotted a future England striker in the Walsall side for 400k, the signing of Ricketts got us promoted.The previous summer "nearly man" Gudjohnsen was sold for £4 million, Ricketts came in and scored more goals for 1/10th the fee I really don't think you were following Bolton very closely at the turn of the century if you think we had a great squad and Eddie Davies threw millions at the team buying a place in the Premier League.Blackburn and Fulham's owners did but not ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLH Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 18 hours ago, Hoppy510 said: I think expectations have run out of control again considering that only a few weeks ago having any future - long or short term - was the problem at hand. And I imagine that when they entered into the process, FV were focused on the survival of the club rather than anything else so I think it's unrealistic to expect anything other than minimal investment, perhaps with another relegation in the short term with a view to clawing our way back up the leagues over many, many years and/or getting the club shipshape and selling on at a future date to someone with the wherewithal to take us further. We should be grateful that it looks like we'll survive Anderson's tenure and anything else is a bonus rather than nitpicking over the details. Don’t get me wrong i’m not expecting miracles. I just think that as successful business people they should be considering the impact of every decision... bums on seats will be a huge issue for them if they get this wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLH Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Hoppy510 said: I do think Allardyce was lucky. He inherited a great squad and an ambitious owner willing to give him what he wanted which is something very few managers get in their lifetimes. That said he recruited well for the most part. Don’t buy that, possibly managing to convince some of the players he did to sign, but he was a trail blazer in his approach. That wasn’t luck, he took all the behind the scenes stuff from American sports and was the first to use them here... everyone followed his lead on that. Without that we’d have not had the stay in the prem we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Not sure if this is mentioned elsewhere but wheater claims king ken is the last creditor dragging his feet holding up FV take over on Michela Wains podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 5, 2019 Moderators Share Posted July 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, tomski said: Not sure if this is mentioned elsewhere but wheater claims king ken is the last creditor dragging his feet holding up FV take over on Michela Wains podcast. That's shocking Michaela wains fcuking podcast Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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