Burnden Pies Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Well if the hotel hadn't been sorted HTF could they have been an hour away from signing the deal? Royally sick of all the shit and all the lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Escobarp said: FV will want clauses inserting that effectively gives them recourse to the admins or some form of protection from Larry. Admins wont grant these and nobody can give absolute protection. Somebody is going to have to take a leap of faith within FV and believe that Larry hasn’t got a case. But it needs to happen ASAP It needs to happen ASAP for us lot We don’t know how much interest FV have in the football side of the business, if it’s secondary to developing property then I doubt things like transfer windows shutting bother them that much. Not enough to give it a ‘leap of faith’ anyway If this drags on too long the season could be a write off, it would get to the point where they would need to decide is it worth throwing money at a squad for this season or not? Save it for a tilt at league 2 next year. They would need to get bodies in of course but the budget might be a lot smaller though if it’s a write off at that point Edited August 15, 2019 by birch-chorley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted August 15, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, gonzo said: It's getting more complicated the longer they drag their feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: O M I N O U S FFS! Not really. None of that is news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 15, 2019 Moderators Share Posted August 15, 2019 If anything it's good No, I fucked it off cos they are dicks Good people and its messy What I want to hear and what I thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted August 15, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted August 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Casino said: If anything it's good No, I fucked it off cos they are dicks Good people and its messy What I want to hear and what I thought Hope you are right but there have been enough 'completion is imminent' announcements to cause concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 15, 2019 Moderators Share Posted August 15, 2019 I don't disagree But until theres a viable option, all I can do is look for positives and stay optimistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Custodiet Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Judge Fudge said: Yes..it’s the same Budworth. Thought so.Too much of a coincidence to be a coincidence. Was I right in thinking that Judge Eyres would have been unimpressed by the language? That kind of stuff smacks of a poor case and feeble hyperbole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Custodiet Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 55 minutes ago, gonzo said: Couldn't help noticing one of the FIBS 'talking about this'. No other words for FIBS other than 'utterly deluded'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluffy Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, hughmungus said: So as I have tried to point out, they have invested zero in the actual team, the money they claim to have brought in has settled debts and gone into the pockets of people who no one knows or who is ever likely to pull on the famous shirt. They are accountants at best and not in the slightest interested in what happens on the green bit. For someone who has posted numerous times in this thread, you don't display much of an understanding of it. No one has bought the club yet (it may even be put in to liquidation still), so what makes you think FV - or anyone else - should be pouring money into a team they don't own??? Before FV can get to that point they first had to ensure the club could physically take part in the league by means of paying for ticket issuing services, lighting and power, staff to prepare the ground, man it on match days seeing to the pitch after games, sort out matchday security and health services, sort out the training ground facilities, have changing room provision, a couple of bottles of water on hand just in case Clayton Donaldson popped by to say hello, etc, etc, etc, This they did by proving £1m up front that is non returnable. The next thing they have to do is buy the club and have offered £24m (plus taking on some debt) for it. I'm not sure what their plan for the hotel was but no doubt those costs have unexpectedly gone up, which they didn't have the money for - hence the sudden need for that PFA loan. Finally when they get to that point - and if they have any money left in the pot - they can think about strengthening the actual team - as per your (and others who clearly have no grasp as to what is required before anyone can get to this stage) demands! What bastards they are wanting to piss away the best part of £30m of their own money to enable the club to partake in this seasons league and buy the club out of administration and thereby saving it from liquidation, before spending a penny on something they hadn't even owned up to that point! Cart before the horse comes to mind. (For what it is worth FV aren't accountants and neither are the Administrators). Book of the evening being - A Ride Around the Farm Yard by Orson Kart. Edited August 15, 2019 by Sluffy Grammar errors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluffy Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Don't think anyone has posted this previously - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Plenty of water still to pass under this bridge before we are bought and in a position to start rebuilding, but the signs are that it will be a long road back with little funding for the team if and when it happens and that the recent shenanigans haven't helped matters. But...at least there's now a stronger possibility that we will survive and for that at least we should be grateful. That and finally getting Anderson out of the club, hopefully. What new ownership will bring is probably austerity in the short term but even if we're relegated again (which is also a strong possibility) the fact that we still exist will mean there is always hope.And there's a huge difference between hope and expectation. Expect nothing and anything else will be a welcome bonus. Expecting big investment and immediate success is the road to disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted August 16, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2019 I’ve seen enough from the kids to think we can have a decent team in 3 years time if they are allowed to develop at a normal enough rate. We just need to keep our heads above water long enough to let that happen. I can also see 1 or 2 of them leaving - hopefully for decent money to help the project along. Getting these on proper contracts has to be a priority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MalcolmW Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 7 hours ago, Sluffy said: …. …. …. …. …. …. …. …. …. (For what it is worth FV aren't accountants and neither are the Administrators). …. Paul Appleton qualified as a chartered account in the 1990s. Apart from that your comments and sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Transfer embargo? Have I missed that part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Ratwhite Posted August 16, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, kent_white said: Transfer embargo? Have I missed that part? Yes. I mere two years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, kent_white said: Transfer embargo? Have I missed that part? Automatic punishment for an insolvency event. 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, Ratwhite said: Yes. I mere two years But as we have no players we can sign people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ani said: But as we have no players we can sign people. On frees and loans which in reality will be all we can afford anyway. And is all we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughmungus Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 8 hours ago, Sluffy said: For someone who has posted numerous times in this thread, you don't display much of an understanding of it. No one has bought the club yet (it may even be put in to liquidation still), so what makes you think FV - or anyone else - should be pouring money into a team they don't own??? Before FV can get to that point they first had to ensure the club could physically take part in the league by means of paying for ticket issuing services, lighting and power, staff to prepare the ground, man it on match days seeing to the pitch after games, sort out matchday security and health services, sort out the training ground facilities, have changing room provision, a couple of bottles of water on hand just in case Clayton Donaldson popped by to say hello, etc, etc, etc, This they did by proving £1m up front that is non returnable. The next thing they have to do is buy the club and have offered £24m (plus taking on some debt) for it. I'm not sure what their plan for the hotel was but no doubt those costs have unexpectedly gone up, which they didn't have the money for - hence the sudden need for that PFA loan. Finally when they get to that point - and if they have any money left in the pot - they can think about strengthening the actual team - as per your (and others who clearly have no grasp as to what is required before anyone can get to this stage) demands! What bastards they are wanting to piss away the best part of £30m of their own money to enable the club to partake in this seasons league and buy the club out of administration and thereby saving it from liquidation, before spending a penny on something they hadn't even owned up to that point! Cart before the horse comes to mind. (For what it is worth FV aren't accountants and neither are the Administrators). Book of the evening being - A Ride Around the Farm Yard by Orson Kart. So the accountants have paid a few of the debts off, which they had to do to at least have a chance to be considered as fit and proper, and then sat on their calculators whilst the football side crumbles. Why then if they are so keen to make the club better have they not done something more substantial about the playing side ? They are not concerned one bit about the football side and just want to get their grubby hands on what’s left of the assets- namely the stadium/hotel and land. Time they came clean about the plan- if they ever had one. I don’t care about the hotel or if someone wants to build a shop on the car park, but what I do want us to watch a team I don’t feel sorry for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepingindian Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: On frees and loans which in reality will be all we can afford anyway. And is all we need. aslong as we can start building can afford bills develope the club rep, and go up the ladder slow or quick the we be reet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, hughmungus said: So the accountants have paid a few of the debts off, which they had to do to at least have a chance to be considered as fit and proper, and then sat on their calculators whilst the football side crumbles. Why then if they are so keen to make the club better have they not done something more substantial about the playing side ? They are not concerned one bit about the football side and just want to get their grubby hands on what’s left of the assets- namely the stadium/hotel and land. Time they came clean about the plan- if they ever had one. I don’t care about the hotel or if someone wants to build a shop on the car park, but what I do want us to watch a team I don’t feel sorry for. I don't follow this. Nobody has a billion quid to throw away. Anyone buying us needs a commercial plan to support the football club, because otherwise the EFL will say no... So in order to do that they have to acquire the commercial assets. Nobody who just wants to "put a good team on the pitch with their own money" has come near us. So we need a consortium with a plan....surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breightmet Boy Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: So in order to do that they have to acquire the commercial assets. Nobody who just wants to "put a good team on the pitch with their own money" has come near us. So we need a consortium with a plan....surely? That would be lovely, but why would anyone with billions to spend buy a club who can't buy players for two years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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