chrisw99 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 The cynic in me still thinks it's dragging on so long purely because of Paul Appleton at the administrators lining his pockets. This is exactly what happened at Coventry. Their fans had a long moan about how long PA was taking to get the admin sorted and at such a high hourly fee. The worrying thing about that, is several months down the line he announced they'd given up on admin and liquidated Coventry instead. https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-liquidator-charged-over-8105978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew1234 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Not the chairman the so called Bolton fan Shortland indulging him... Apologies - read this incorrectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Matthew1234 said: A chairman spouting off on Twitter is never a good look. Lets see if he has the same complaints if his club are ever in trouble and he gets assistance offered. That's the point he is making.There is no chance a small club like Accrington would be loaned £2 million by the PFA in similar circumstances.The Darlingtons, Chesters and Maidstones of this world are allowed to fold for smaller amounts than that. I suppose it's one of the benefits of being a bigger club, up to now no club of Bolton's size has ever been allowed to fold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okocha10 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, chrisw99 said: The cynic in me still thinks it's dragging on so long purely because of Paul Appleton at the administrators lining his pockets. This is exactly what happened at Coventry. Their fans had a long moan about how long PA was taking to get the admin sorted and at such a high hourly fee. The worrying thing about that, is several months down the line he announced they'd given up on admin and liquidated Coventry instead. https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-liquidator-charged-over-8105978 Got Blackpool over the line though with a decent buyer. Coventry situation was that they couldn't find a buyer like our self's & had ongoing issue with Ricoh arena. Also Sisu at the time offered the biggest bid. Generally don't think it's Rubin & Partners who have been an issue. Quantuma on the other hand with 6 to 8 week delay for the hotel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said: That's the point he is making.There is no chance a small club like Accrington would be loaned £2 million by the PFA in similar circumstances.The Darlingtons, Chesters and Maidstones of this world are allowed to fold for smaller amounts than that. I suppose it's one of the benefits of being a bigger club, up to now no club of Bolton's size has ever been allowed to fold The loan is to FV. And I can't see why others wouldn't be loaned in similar circumstances if they could provide the assurances that the PFA require. I think there are specific circumstances here. if the PFA were paying our players without FV there then I'd share the issue that Holt is raising. But that isn't the case. FV could have secured a loan elsewhere - I imagine the PFA was the quickest route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 If any other club got a loan and we did not people would be moaning like fuck. However i I do think we must have a genuinely credible business plan to get this put through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew1234 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I do think someones raised a good point here - and one I had not considered. FV probably budgeted that season ticket sales and perhaps even shirt sales, would generate enough cash to pay the football creditors. Given the delays to date, they have had to take more drastic action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRepWanderer Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Heard from someone that new kit delivered to club shop this morning, don't know if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeep Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said: Heard from someone that new kit delivered to club shop this morning, don't know if true. It's been ready to go for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew1234 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Just bought my Wycombe ticket... For anyone else interested you can go directly through the Wycombe website and purchase there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Matthew1234 said: Just bought my Wycombe ticket... For anyone else interested you can go directly through the Wycombe website and purchase there. They also send out e-tickets so no postage costs. 21st century innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 31 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said: Heard from someone that new kit delivered to club shop this morning, don't know if true. It's red apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Take Hunt Off Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Marc505 said: It's red apparently. At least use a maggot Mark . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Err, Have the PFA actually said yes to this loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, chrisw99 said: The cynic in me still thinks it's dragging on so long purely because of Paul Appleton at the administrators lining his pockets. This is exactly what happened at Coventry. Their fans had a long moan about how long PA was taking to get the admin sorted and at such a high hourly fee. The worrying thing about that, is several months down the line he announced they'd given up on admin and liquidated Coventry instead. https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-liquidator-charged-over-8105978 Fuckin ell mate if they’d have left a few minutes longer EFL would’ve said piss off, no fucker buys anything and PA and his pals lose about £2m. Thats one massive game of Chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pricey Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Just heard from a mate that we are due a £375k payment from the Premier League, is this true and if it is, why are we getting this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Pricey said: Just heard from a mate that we are due a £375k payment from the Premier League, is this true and if it is, why are we getting this? Nixon tweeted this the other day, think he meant EFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pricey Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said: Nixon tweeted this the other day, think he meant EFL. is there a reason why we are getting that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny The Ball Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Pricey said: is there a reason why we are getting that? I think it is whats known as a solidarity payment payable to each EFL club by the Premier League , its to ease their collective consciences and make them feel as though they are supporting the EFL Bit like you or I putting our loose change in a charity box on a shop counter and feeling good because we are supporting a worthwhile cause Edited July 30, 2019 by Benny The Ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Benny The Ball said: I think it is whats known as a solidarity payment payable to each EFL club by the Premier League , its to ease their collective consciences and make them feel as though they are supporting the EFL Bit like you or I putting our loose change in a charity box on a shop counter and feeling good because we are supporting a worthwhile cause So its is Premier league money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pricey Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, Benny The Ball said: I think it is whats known as a solidarity payment payable to each EFL club by the Premier League , its to ease their collective consciences and make them feel as though they are supporting the EFL Bit like you or I putting our loose change in a charity box on a shop counter and feeling good because we are supporting a worthwhile cause ah ok, very kind of them to do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny The Ball Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: So its is Premier league money? If it is solidarity payment yes - was mentioned on radio as being due last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 30, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2019 It's the responsibility of the clubs themselves though to ensure proper financial management. Yes some trickle down money is helpful, but the clubs can't sulk and moan with a sense of entitlement: all got to learn to cut their cloth accordingly. That's where the game's governing bodies must become stronger. Maybe some sort of salary ceiling, capping of agents fees etc. Some tough love needed, plenty of money coming into the game, just too much of it going straight back out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfessorWoland Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said: It is a loan on a commercial basis. People are making out like the PFA have "bailed us out". It is a loan with strict conditions attached. Not like they've just gone - here lads have 2M knock yourselves out. If it was a bank loan nobody would bat an eyelid. It serves me right for putting talkshite on in the first place. If I'd known they would be broadcasting from so far up Taylor's arse I'd have avoided it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pricey Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: It's the responsibility of the clubs themselves though to ensure proper financial management. Yes some trickle down money is helpful, but the clubs can't sulk and moan with a sense of entitlement: all got to learn to cut their cloth accordingly. That's where the game's governing bodies must become stronger. Maybe some sort of salary ceiling, capping of agents fees etc. Some tough love needed, plenty of money coming into the game, just too much of it going straight back out. This should have been implemented years ago, this is why the game has gone crazy with transfer fees and wages. I will probably get shot by saying this but Alex Ferguson had it right. He was to be paid £1 more than the highest paid player and IMO that is how it should be. Managers should be on more money than players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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