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17 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

That's probably because he doesn't know the whole truth himself.

That's partly true. Eddie Davies gave him a wide berth and Garty and Anderson both banned him. But the main problem with Iles lies in his inherent prejudices.

He knows how much Holdsworth and Quantuma cost the club but he won't publish it. He never published how much BWFC was costing ED year after year after  year and even ten years into the job he was still telling his dumbass following that Gordon Hargreaves funded the Reebok.

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Give it a fucking rest eh  ‘somebody’s moral expectations of someone are very different to the legal obligations you know that and I know that. So why don’t you lay off patronising folk Chris and

I really cannot wait for the day we don’t have to read the words moonshift, Inner fucking circle, blue bastard marble or any piece of shit word associated to this horrible draining 3 year bullshit sag

Fucking massive clear out coming on WW later, either way.

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7 minutes ago, Chris Custodiet said:

That's partly true. Eddie Davies gave him a wide berth and Garty and Anderson both banned him. But the main problem with Iles lies in his inherent prejudices.

He knows how much Holdsworth and Quantuma cost the club but he won't publish it. He never published how much BWFC was costing ED year after year after  year and even ten years into the job he was still telling his dumbass following that Gordon Hargreaves funded the Reebok.

Do you not think he's been better of late? Not getting involved in the daily tittle tattle reporting what he believes to be close to fact rather than lots of speculative stuff that then needs correcting? He seems in with FV but has been critical of them too...

I don't know - I sense he's learned from Anderson affair that you need to build relationships but still question things. And also report what you know rather than what you think...

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10 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Do you not think he's been better of late? Not getting involved in the daily tittle tattle reporting what he believes to be close to fact rather than lots of speculative stuff that then needs correcting? He seems in with FV but has been critical of them too...

I don't know - I sense he's learned from Anderson affair that you need to build relationships but still question things. And also report what you know rather than what you think...

I don't think he's changed his spots and don't think he ever will. He's got a new boss now who I hope is exercising a bit more sensible control but it didn't stop Iles coming out with a ludicrous and unnecessary dig at Michael James a couple of weeks ago.

Iles has done a lot of damage and any new regime must expect more of the same.

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1 minute ago, Chris Custodiet said:

I don't think he's changed his spots and don't think he ever will. He's got a new boss now who I hope is exercising a bit more sensible control but it didn't stop Iles him coming out with a ludicrous and unnecessary dig at Michael James a couple of weeks ago.

Iles has done a lot of damage and any new regime must expect more of the same.

What was the dig? Missed it I think....

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2 hours ago, Chris Custodiet said:

Are you trying to turn WW into the Beeno Marc II?

I guess that's just your way of saying that you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to suggest that either theory is wrong so you're deflecting on to any easy target rather than accepting that until the facts come out it remains a possibility. Are you Sluffy Mk 2?

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41 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

What was the dig? Missed it I think....

In early 2016, PBP came up with c12m to help keep the club in business; 6.5m for the car parks and a 5.5m loan secured on the hotel lease. The problem was that the existing lease was virtually worthless so the terms of the lease were altered so that it was worth something and the 5.5m loan could go ahead.

A fortnight ago, Iles, echoing his dimwitted friends or associates at the ST, decided to have a go at MJ sneeringly describing the new lease as ' a so-called ''commercial arrangement'' '.

 

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30 minutes ago, Chris Custodiet said:

In early 2016, PBP came up with c12m to help keep the club in business; 6.5m for the car parks and a 5.5m loan secured on the hotel lease. The problem was that the existing lease was virtually worthless so the terms of the lease were altered so that it was worth something and the 5.5m loan could go ahead.

A fortnight ago, Iles, echoing his dimwitted friends or associates at the ST, decided to have a go at MJ sneeringly describing the new lease as ' a so-called ''commercial arrangement'' '.

 

So when two businesses re-arrange a lease it isn't a commercial arrangement?

What would you call it

 

 

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Just now, Roger_Dubuis said:

So when two businesses re-arrange a lease it isn't a commercial arrangement?

What would you call it

 

 

I'd call it a 'commercial arrangement' not a 'so-called commercial arrangement'. The additional unnecessary words were plainly a gratuitous attempt to denigrate MJ and PBP.

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10 minutes ago, Chris Custodiet said:

I'd call it a 'commercial arrangement' not a 'so-called commercial arrangement'. The additional unnecessary words were plainly a gratuitous attempt to denigrate MJ and PBP.

Could be read the other way, could it not, that he was essentially saying it was MJ helping the club out?

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3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

AZIT BIN DUN? COME ON, AZIT BIN DUN? AZIT BIN DUN?

Made me fucking cringe hearing that daft bastard hounding her like that. Bet he's like that at Christmas waiting for his mum to get up "Has he been yet? Has he been yet? Has he been yet?"

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1 hour ago, Chris Custodiet said:

 

A fortnight ago, Iles, echoing his dimwitted friends or associates at the ST, decided to have a go at MJ sneeringly describing the new lease as ' a so-called ''commercial arrangement'' '.

 

The feckin bstard!

Seriously mate. Our very existence is under threat, we're just off the back of an amazing experience on Saturday and you're trying to score points off the local journo? Give your head a wobble

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8 minutes ago, Tino81 said:

Made me fucking cringe hearing that daft bastard hounding her like that. 

Totally the opposite for me. I would have cringed 20 years ago but not now.After the financial mismanagement of the Eddie era and Ken coming in and not giving a fuck about anything but himself , potenial owners need to know they will be under scrutiny.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

Totally the opposite for me. I would have cringed 20 years ago but not now.After the financial mismanagement of the Eddie era and Ken coming in and not giving a fuck about anything but himself , potenial owners need to know they will be under scrutiny.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To be honest it was probably Nixon from the Sun in disguise asking.

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35 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Could be read the other way, could it not, that he was essentially saying it was MJ helping the club out?

When did you last read Iles reporting on the 12m PBP came up with to help keep the club afloat in 2016?

When did you last read Iles reporting on the Holdsworth cost to BWFC?

When did you last read Iles reporting on the fact that Blumarble lent only 4m and that that was due for repayment within a couple of weeks of it being lent?

When did you last read Iles reporting on the fact that 90% of Anderson's 'so-called' fee of 525K went to a combination of Holdsworth, SSBWFC and SSBWFC's liquidators?

Iles has actually done a lousy job on reporting BWFC financials whilst mouthing off as if he is some kind of expert?

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40 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

The feckin bstard!

Seriously mate. Our very existence is under threat, we're just off the back of an amazing experience on Saturday and you're trying to score points off the local journo? Give your head a wobble

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18 minutes ago, Chris Custodiet said:

When did you last read Iles reporting on the 12m PBP came up with to help keep the club afloat in 2016?

When did you last read Iles reporting on the Holdsworth cost to BWFC?

When did you last read Iles reporting on the fact that Blumarble lent only 4m and that that was due for repayment within a couple of weeks of it being lent?

When did you last read Iles reporting on the fact that 90% of Anderson's 'so-called' fee of 525K went to a combination of Holdsworth, SSBWFC and SSBWFC's liquidators?

Iles has actually done a lousy job on reporting BWFC financials whilst mouthing off as if he is some kind of expert?

How do you know any of this? Especially that Sweaty only got 52,500 quid and not 525,000? Not having a pop by the way.......

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45 minutes ago, Chris Custodiet said:

When did you last read Iles reporting on the fact that 90% of Anderson's 'so-called' fee of 525K went to a combination of Holdsworth, SSBWFC and SSBWFC's liquidators?

 

Is that a fact? I heard that the only time he gave anything to BWFC it was in the form of a loan with early repayment and charges on assets and that not one penny of it was his "own money" i.e. money that he had not already taken out of the club - or borrowed from ED - in the first instance. But I defer to your superior knowledge of the "facts".

But seeing you are privy to the facts, how much was Anderson's "fee" in the following two seasons? And did he give it all to good causes?

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38 minutes ago, Hoppy510 said:

Is that a fact? I heard that the only time he gave anything to BWFC it was in the form of a loan with early repayment and charges on assets and that not one penny of it was his "own money" i.e. money that he had not already taken out of the club - or borrowed from ED - in the first instance. But I defer to your superior knowledge of the "facts".

But seeing you are privy to the facts, how much was Anderson's "fee" in the following two seasons? And did he give it all to good causes?

Given a choice of believing what some totally uninformed, ranting morons on twitter /FB/ down the pub, or the Administrators factual report (which is available to view by all of us - including you), then you will clearly see stated that Anderson is shown to be an unsecured creditor for £180k (as well as his secured holding) you've once again plumped for the hate rhetoric rather than the professional statement of facts.

Well done you.

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