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3 hours ago, Benny The Ball said:

Would certainly make life interesting If Sam popped up in some capacity 

 

Yeh.The new board could get him to draw up a business plan and buy players  on 25-year loans arranged with a mate of Sam's that the club would still be repaying when the players are in their fifties. Check it out in his autobiography. I think you'll find it somewhere round Page 165 from memory.

PFI's got nowt on BSA

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I’d be very wary of Sam having any sort of financial influence at the club. Will never forget how good we had it under his management (watched the highlights of Preston play off final and the last day Boro game on Sky today, in fact) but I feel rather uncomfortable with the idea of him being in charge of our recruitment. 

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15 minutes ago, Chris Custodiet said:

Yeh.The new board could get him to draw up a business plan and buy players  on 25-year loans arranged with a mate of Sam's that the club would still be repaying when the players are in their fifties. Check it out in his autobiography. I think you'll find it somewhere round Page 165 from memory.

PFI's got nowt on BSA

I would speculate that IF the Dark Horse Consortium are successful in  acquiring  the club and IF as I believe they have done they offer BSA a job as Director of Football , then his job will be to put in place a scouting network to  attract the right calibre of player to BWFC and to bring on board the right  manager. and save only from agreeing a salary & transfer budget  I dont envisage him being involved in any way in drawing up business plans and sorting out the funding of players 

From what little I know I can tell you this is not some dodgy outfit who have drafted out a plan on the back of a fag packet 

 

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2 hours ago, Benny The Ball said:

 

In fairness to Howard he was asked If he thought BSA was involved in one of the consortiums and replied unlikely 

If you read "involved " as meaning as an investor he is most likely correct

If however someone asked had the Dark Horse Consortium sounded out BSA  in advance and got from him a commitment to participate in some capacity if they are successful with their bid and then used that as part of their package that persuaded ED Trustees to support that bid  -that's when it potentially gets very  interesting

 

 

Correct, BSA wouldn’t fund, he would however be happily involved in a sabremetrics based scouting system that focuses on athletic prowess over technical. He has touted this to a number of clubs since before he was at Palace and is an ambassador/investor in an AI data analytics system that is currently used in American sports recruiting (collegiate drafts). 

Bolton and L1 would be a decent ‘beta’ site for it and give the buyers a figurehead appointment. Everybody happy. 

With BSA there’s always fire with the smoke.

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Realistically, how much would we have to pay BSA to come back? I think we'd be looking at least £5m, upfront. Can't see it, and I've been drinking, but by God would it get us fans back onboard.

I'm speaking as a manager here btw. But would love to get the sports science stuff etc back.

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28 minutes ago, Ros Coe said:

I loved Sam as manager but letting him anywhere near the clubs finances would be a big mistake..

I'm with you on that. And honestly while we had great times with him, I think it's time to let it be with BSA.

Wouldn't be opposed to Nolan as manager in league 1, although I know nothing of his success other than he did alright with Notts County for a bit.

Anyone else like to see David Lee have a go? Done well with the youth teams.

 

Though if these new owners have some cash to splash I reckon we could get a very decent candidate in.

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3 minutes ago, Mantra said:

I'm with you on that. And honestly while we had great times with him, I think it's time to let it be with BSA.

Wouldn't be opposed to Nolan as manager in league 1, although I know nothing of his success other than he did alright with Notts County for a bit.

Anyone else like to see David Lee have a go? Done well with the youth teams.

 

Though if these new owners have some cash to splash I reckon we could get a very decent candidate in.

Would Lee be interested in the job? I mean he's doing well with the kids and should really be safe in that job, given the talent we've brought through in recent years.

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37 minutes ago, Ros Coe said:

I loved Sam as manager but letting him anywhere near the clubs finances would be a big mistake..

Yeah like it wont be an improvement on this cancerous egomanic chancer who is an absolute disgrace to the name of BWFC 

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12 minutes ago, dazl1212 said:

Would Lee be interested in the job? I mean he's doing well with the kids and should really be safe in that job, given the talent we've brought through in recent years.

Depends on his ambition I suppose. Would be a loss to the youth teams, but if it's a gain to the first team I'm all for it.

My impression is that once we are taken over by this Mystery Buyer we will get in a good appointment. It's a shame we missed out on Gary Bowyer. But plenty of others who can get us out of League 1. More dependent on the players I would say.

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1 minute ago, Ani said:

If the best we can afford as managers is Lee or Nolan the new owners do not have much money. 

Not saying that is the best. Maybe with Basran that would've been the case, but if we have funds we can definitely get someone of better experience in.

Despite all the calls on Twitter for Parkinson's head I've not actually seen many good suggestions. Someone said Carlos Cavalhal but would he be interested in managing in League 1? Doubt it, maybe if he's got funds to spend.

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Just now, Mantra said:

Not saying that is the best. Maybe with Basran that would've been the case, but if we have funds we can definitely get someone of better experience in.

Despite all the calls on Twitter for Parkinson's head I've not actually seen many good suggestions. Someone said Carlos Cavalhal but would he be interested in managing in League 1? Doubt it, maybe if he's got funds to spend.

To be honest, I don't see how Nolan is a bad League One appointment. 

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18 minutes ago, Mantra said:

Depends on his ambition I suppose. Would be a loss to the youth teams, but if it's a gain to the first team I'm all for it.

My impression is that once we are taken over by this Mystery Buyer we will get in a good appointment. It's a shame we missed out on Gary Bowyer. But plenty of others who can get us out of League 1. More dependent on the players I would say.

I suppose. 

 

If we do have money, enough to convince a manager we can spend enough to get out of league one in a season we'd be pretty attractive to an ambitious manager with a track record.

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6 hours ago, Boby Brno said:

lStick around Howard otherwise we’ll be reverting back to knocking the local SPORTS journalist.

I hope H stays around too but I rather suspect he will go where his job takes them.

As for Iles our 'esteemed' SPORTS journalist, he could be your younger brother for all I know but until he writes something about Holdsworth financial involvement whilst at the club (the information is already out there) and states something (anything!) factual that's negative about the ST's behaviour (their chairmen - Hurst and Bridge 'disappeared' without a mention from him, the failure to even hold their mandatory AGM one year, nor even a line about his professional bodies rebuke given to their current 'poster boy' and high vis spokesman, Roger Allanson - and which is in the public domain - indeed reported elsewhere in the Bolton News itself!) yet quotes them at every other available opportunity - indeed their statement was the very FIRST thing he posted after his holiday break last week - then you can not convince me - or all the other critics of him (which seem to be slowly but  gradually increasing imo), that he is far from being impartial and reporting fairly without bias and taking sides.

And if you really want to get me going his reporting and understanding of the last set of published accounts - and more to the point his tweets clearly inferring amongst other things that Anderson had only paid £150k for Holdsworth shares - which incensed the brain dead masses that clearly take what he says as gospel - and was the tipping point of the growing hatred of Anderson to turn into the toxicity it became  - was scandalous and clearly not understood by him, let alone even researched and checked with anybody with a bit of knowledge about accountancy.

Until he proves to report BOTH sides of a story, FAIRLY and without BIAS, then I for one will remain critical of him.

And I certainly won't be alone in doing that either.

Maybe he should stay with being the local SPORTS journalist and keep out of club and ST politics and giving his twopeneth of uninformed comments/tweets on accountancy.

That is I believe fair comment about Mr Iles.

 

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Most posts on this thread would just alienate your average lad and just have them scratching their heads as to what the hell is going on...and calm down Casino this is not a wind up so get your finger off the trigger but just a view of a different world of business and the people that inhabit that world that turns your every day Lancashire lads stomach.

There's nowt ever straight forward.

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22 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

I hope H stays around too but I rather suspect he will go where his job takes them.

As for Iles our 'esteemed' SPORTS journalist, he could be your younger brother for all I know but until he writes something about Holdsworth financial involvement whilst at the club (the information is already out there) and states something (anything!) factual that's negative about the ST's behaviour (their chairmen - Hurst and Bridge 'disappeared' without a mention from him, the failure to even hold their mandatory AGM one year, nor even a line about his professional bodies rebuke given to their current 'poster boy' and high vis spokesman, Roger Allanson - and which is in the public domain - indeed reported elsewhere in the Bolton News itself!) yet quotes them at every other available opportunity - indeed their statement was the very FIRST thing he posted after his holiday break last week - then you can not convince me - or all the other critics of him (which seem to be slowly but  gradually increasing imo), that he is far from being impartial and reporting fairly without bias and taking sides.

And if you really want to get me going his reporting and understanding of the last set of published accounts - and more to the point his tweets clearly inferring amongst other things that Anderson had only paid £150k for Holdsworth shares - which incensed the brain dead masses that clearly take what he says as gospel - and was the tipping point of the growing hatred of Anderson to turn into the toxicity it became  - was scandalous and clearly not understood by him, let alone even researched and checked with anybody with a bit of knowledge about accountancy.

Until he proves to report BOTH sides of a story, FAIRLY and without BIAS, then I for one will remain critical of him.

And I certainly won't be alone in doing that either.

Maybe he should stay with being the local SPORTS journalist and keep out of club and ST politics and giving his twopeneth of uninformed comments/tweets on accountancy.

That is I believe fair comment about Mr Iles.

 

I think you've hit the nail perfectly on the head with your assessment of the BN and its "journalists"

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19 minutes ago, Traf said:

I think you've hit the nail perfectly on the head with your assessment of the BN and its "journalists"

Good point, well made Traf, everything I've said above in respect of Iles equally applies to his boss, Neil Bonnar as well.

It really isn't that difficult to remain fair and unbiased if you simply stick to the facts instead of publicly tweeting stuff like 'best for Bolton but worst outcome possible for Anderson.

How can ANYONE claim that to be an impartial and a non biased comment - coming indeed from the HEAD OF SPORTS at the paper?

Yet some folk clearly think it is I and others with the agenda???

 

 

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