Site Supporter Ratwhite Posted June 23, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted June 23, 2019 This thread should be renamed - “Mud-slingers, Shit-flickers and essays of doom” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Custodiet Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Casino said: Missing the point by a mile It's not that roger did wrong, it's that a full investigation was carried out and it was decided he should carry on in his co opted role At best, their judgement is fcuked up, at worst, it's as I said, a cosy little club As for Anderson, if they had ever come up with a credible alternative, I'd have been all over it But they didn't No high net worths, no nothing But if only Rigsby, Smiffy and Simple Simon had been gven the chance they'd have sorted it all, wouldn't they, and paid the players wages ouf of their own pockets? They are imo unrealistic dreamers with some unsavoury tendencies not unlike many journos and some of the elected and unelected representatives of Bolton. Still waiting for Wullie. He said he understood 'the business side'. I'm not convinced he did. Edited June 23, 2019 by Chris Custodiet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 23, 2019 Moderators Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: The only judgement that had to be made was is ken good for BWFC? They made that judgement and got it right. If Anderson had sold last summer they would've got it wrong More to the point, they have never once suggested a viable alternative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Casino said: If Anderson had sold last summer they would've got it wrong More to the point, they have never once suggested a viable alternative He didn’t sell though, and how do you know FV were not introduced to BWFC by the Trust? Edited June 23, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 23, 2019 Moderators Share Posted June 23, 2019 Because you would've told us all about it Suppose you could be reet, bet Michael James had never heard of us but Terry, rog and Mags pulled it all together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Casino said: Because you would've told us all about it Suppose you could be reet, bet Michael James had never heard of us but Terry, rog and Mags pulled it all together FV entered negotiations before MJ joined their consortium. Or did you miss that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 23, 2019 Moderators Share Posted June 23, 2019 No And I didn't miss the fact they couldn't do the deal without him Nor that if you're getting together HNW you would start with MJ And the fact a senior member of the trust wants warby and James out of the club Seriously, do you think if the trust were party to this deal they wouldn't be screaming it from the rooftops Be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 23, 2019 Moderators Share Posted June 23, 2019 In fact, don't bother Go and read the comments under iles latest piece Section the lot of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughmungus Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Are the takeover lot anyway connected to the Qatar based mob mentioned about 2000 pages back, as it looks like the shit has hit the fan over illegal payments to Platini and co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Chris Custodiet said: But if only Rigsby, Smiffy and Simple Simon had been gven the chance they'd have sorted it all, wouldn't they, and paid the players wages ouf of their own pockets? They are imo unrealistic dreamers with some unsavoury tendencies not unlike many journos and some of the elected and unelected representatives of Bolton. Still waiting for Wullie. He said he understood 'the business side'. I'm not convinced he did. I wouldn't bother waiting for me Chris, you can find someone else to compare your knowledge with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, hughmungus said: Are the takeover lot anyway connected to the Qatar based mob mentioned about 2000 pages back, as it looks like the shit has hit the fan over illegal payments to Platini and co. I would very much doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 24 minutes ago, Casino said: No And I didn't miss the fact they couldn't do the deal without him Nor that if you're getting together HNW you would start with MJ And the fact a senior member of the trust wants warby and James out of the club Seriously, do you think if the trust were party to this deal they wouldn't be screaming it from the rooftops Be honest Not if they’d also signed an NDA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, Casino said: In fact, don't bother Go and read the comments under iles latest piece Section the lot of them What comments and from who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 The main problem regarding the finances was that Eddie Davies gambled the clubs sky money and lost. He fucked it off sharpish as soon as the Sky parachute money stopped and left the club heading to Div 3 with no tv revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eavesy Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/17724433.inside-wanderers-why-fans-faith-has-to-hold-out-just-a-little-longer/ Some very interesting selection of words in that article. Have iles and Bolton News finally learnt there lesson from Anderson’s days and simply don’t publish unchecked stories. Which turn out to be false. or Does the story not fit there agenda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveh Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Roger_Dubuis said: The main problem regarding the finances was that Eddie Davies gambled the clubs sky money and lost. He fucked it off sharpish as soon as the Sky parachute money stopped and left the club heading to Div 3 with no tv revenue. Yup, I agree with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Wullie said: I wouldn't bother waiting for me Chris, you can find someone else to compare your knowledge with. That's only because you can't come up with terms like the beeno or simple Simon or any other childish nicknames to explain your point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Custodiet Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 31 minutes ago, Daveh said: Yup, I agree with this one. Which proves that there's more than one idiot in the village Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluffy Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: FV entered negotiations before MJ joined their consortium. Or did you miss that? So are you saying the ST are the white knights who introduced FV to the club then watched in horror as their new bete noire Michael James jumped on board with Team Basran! I bet their faces were a picture if that really did happen! Fwiw I doubt very much if FV didn't have James on board from the very beginning, as they would have had to sounded out the secured creditors in advance of everything to see what their positions were and if James wasn't going to be part of their syndicate they would have had to find an additional £5.5m to their war chest, to cover his secured creditor status being settled in order that they could bring the club out of Administration - particularly if the rumours of them not having much financial backing up to that point being true. As for the ST don't you think it somewhat strange that James, Warburton and the Eddie Davies family clearly don't want anything to do with them? Don't you think it somewhat strange also that a ST Board member called them all out in public (and clearly not 'corrected' by his colleagues at the time - implying a common view across the Board and lack of desire of them to keep it under wraps)? I do. If so have you ever wondered why they are opposing each other and not working together? Also do you think they are representing all the Wanderers fans with their views and do you think they are able to work together with the clubs new owners - particularly if it turns out as seems likely Michael James will be one of them? After all it is their two very reasons for being as stated by themselves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochdale white Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Eavesy said: https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/17724433.inside-wanderers-why-fans-faith-has-to-hold-out-just-a-little-longer/ Some very interesting selection of words in that article. Have iles and Bolton News finally learnt there lesson from Anderson’s days and simply don’t publish unchecked stories. Which turn out to be false. or Does the story not fit there agenda? What untruths were there regarding Anderson? I can’t recall them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted June 23, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted June 23, 2019 Mounts, from your many posts on this forum you come across as a decent bloke & a passionate, loyal BWFC fan. This being the case I really can't fathom your staunch defence of a flawed if not fundamentally undemocratic & corrupt ST.... especially given your stance on the EU referendum vote. For me A ST yes please, this ST no thank you sir. Please don't suggest trying to change it from within because these self elected & self appeasing lot have no interest in representing your average Bolton fan. The only way for most Bolton fans would be a new & accountable representative body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Take Hunt Off Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Mounts, from your many posts on this forum you come across as a decent bloke & a passionate, loyal BWFC fan. This being the case I really can't fathom your staunch defence of a flawed if not fundamentally undemocratic & corrupt ST.... especially given your stance on the EU referendum vote. For me A ST yes please, this ST no thank you sir. Please don't suggest trying to change it from within because these self elected & self appeasing lot have no interest in representing your average Bolton fan. The only way for most Bolton fans would be a new & accountable representative body. Must admit I walked out of the last ST meeting which was billed as an important event .No Brett Warburton no Michael James just the important stake holders Bolton at home the MP for Bolton South East & a few I cant remember .Rigby gave us a narrative which made Dean Holsworth sound like a victim no mention of the one million he trousered.It was like a parrallel universe .I' d already fucked off before the slagging of the Davies family & others .Surreal , these people are different to us they have an agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Eavesy said: https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/17724433.inside-wanderers-why-fans-faith-has-to-hold-out-just-a-little-longer/ Some very interesting selection of words in that article. Have iles and Bolton News finally learnt there lesson from Anderson’s days and simply don’t publish unchecked stories. Which turn out to be false. or Does the story not fit there agenda? What's their 'agenda'? It seems a pretty straightforward piece to me. Iles is as anxious as all of us for things to be resolved. I'm happy to do as he suggests, sit tight and wait without wanting a running commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: What's their 'agenda'? It seems a pretty straightforward piece to me. Iles is as anxious as all of us for things to be resolved. I'm happy to do as he suggests, sit tight and wait without wanting a running commentary. Aye I’ve never understood the suspicion on here they are him/them are bringing the club down. I agree just want to hear it’s done when it is. Not rumours before or Itk stuff. His stance is correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughmungus Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Roger_Dubuis said: The main problem regarding the finances was that Eddie Davies gambled the clubs sky money and lost. He fucked it off sharpish as soon as the Sky parachute money stopped and left the club heading to Div 3 with no tv revenue. Think you have won todays ‘Howard award’ for the daftest post so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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