lowcarbon Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 was we led to believe Bassini was paying all wages and bills before EFL ratification? Then pay every thing else owed later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, lowcarbon said: was we led to believe Bassini was paying all wages and bills before EFL ratification? Then pay every thing else owed later. Let’s hope so. Not confident at all, if he has the money March and April salaries should be settled by April 30th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 34 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: So by the end any of these serious better options could have done a deal but chose not to. So the only option in reality was Bassini. You could phrase it that way, but we have yet to see whether or not we could phrase it along the lines of "Anderson pissed off all the decent options until there was only Bassini left by the time that the finances had been run into the ground and the only remaining choice was between Bassini and liquidation". Hopefully the full story will come out some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hoppy510 said: You could phrase it that way, but we have yet to see whether or not we could phrase it along the lines of "Anderson pissed off all the decent options until there was only Bassini left by the time that the finances had been run into the ground and the only remaining choice was between Bassini and liquidation". Hopefully the full story will come out some day. Just out of curiosity, what did Eddie fuck all the billionaires off with, to leave himself with only the option of Holdsworth/Anderson ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Custodiet Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Hoppy510 said: You could phrase it that way, but we have yet to see whether or not we could phrase it along the lines of "Anderson pissed off all the decent options until there was only Bassini left by the time that the finances had been run into the ground and the only remaining choice was between Bassini and liquidation". Hopefully the full story will come out some day. If past experience is anything to go by there's not a cat in hell's chance of anything like 'the full story' coming out in the Beeno, Grauniad, Mirror or Times. So where is it going to come out from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Chris Custodiet said: Anyone come up with any ideas about the mystery of the missing million yet? No, because nobody other than you cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said: No, because nobody other than you cares In fairness to Chris I believe he is only bringing it up because Terrance Rigby from the ST made reference to it on Monday. Rigby appeared to infer that it was genuine costs that DH incurred, which I believe is doubtful. But it appears after backing Deano throughout the dispute with Anderson, trust board members don't want to be seen to be making a U turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said: In fairness to Chris I believe he is only bringing it up because Terrance Rigby from the ST made reference to it on Monday. Rigby appeared to infer that it was genuine costs that DH incurred, which I believe is doubtful. But it appears after backing Deano throughout the dispute with Anderson, trust board members don't want to be seen to be making a U turn. Another reason why they just aren’t “followable”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Chris Custodiet said: If past experience is anything to go by there's not a cat in hell's chance of anything like 'the full story' coming out in the Beeno, Grauniad, Mirror or Times. So where is it going to come out from? The ST course. And wankers like Smurf on twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HR Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Given where we are now I can't see any point in debating DHs or EDs role from three years ago. The only real function the ST can perform now is to try and come up with a plan to galvanise support and assist whenever possible using their limited powers and influence. The people on the ST Board no matter how good / bad they are viewed are there simply because no one else wants to be, the whole thing needs ripping up and starting again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 For me, should Bassini turn out to be a mirage and the club go into liquidation we need to live on to some extent That requires a decent level of organisation from the fan base We need to be brought together by a body of fans, A supporters trust even if it’s not this one My fear is, the current one has divided fans too much and we won’t be able to unite effectively enough to bounce back. Given our history / following it would be a very sad state of affairs if we can’t get together to organise something What’s the alternative to the ST that can unite our fan base should the worst happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: Let’s hope so. Not confident at all, if he has the money March and April salaries should be settled by April 30th. Based on nothing. The guys minted. He’s dodgey but that’s how you get rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: What’s the alternative to the ST that can unite our fan base should the worst happen? Reform the existing ST from within. Tetlow said elections coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Take Hunt Off Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: For me, should Bassini turn out to be a mirage and the club go into liquidation we need to live on to some extent That requires a decent level of organisation from the fan base We need to be brought together by a body of fans, A supporters trust even if it’s not this one My fear is, the current one has divided fans too much and we won’t be able to unite effectively enough to bounce back. Given our history / following it would be a very sad state of affairs if we can’t get together to organise something What’s the alternative to the ST that can unite our fan base should the worst happen? They would probably need to stand down en masse & a new board organised .Not that easy but maybe involve Brett Warby & Peter James in the intitial stage so that the organisation would have some real stakeholders on board assuming of course they wanted to be involved, maybe in a life or death situation they would rarther than see the club wiped out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 9 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said: If they’d wanted to they’d have done it.It’s one thing to say you are interested another to actually do it when you see the level of debt. We may still find out that this is a problem for Bassini. But let’s be serious. Nobody was queuing up to buy us. The Trust’s fantasy bullshit is worthless in the real world. What if they'd both wanted to, and Bassini as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, RoadRunnerFan said: Reform the existing ST from within. Tetlow said elections coming up. Possibly engaging supporters association and invite all supporters forums and season ticket holders to a meeting to see if there is a way forward. It really is time all fans dropped there issues and pulled in the same direction. Edited April 21, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 21, 2019 Moderators Share Posted April 21, 2019 54 minutes ago, Take Hunt Off said: They would probably need to stand down en masse & a new board organised .Not that easy but maybe involve Brett Warby & Peter James in the intitial stage so that the organisation would have some real stakeholders on board assuming of course they wanted to be involved, maybe in a life or death situation they would rarther than see the club wiped out. If warby and james got involved I'd back it 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 21, 2019 Moderators Share Posted April 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Possibly engaging supporters association and invite all supporters forums and season ticket holders to a meeting to see if there is a way forward. It really is time all fans dropped there issues and pulled in the same direction. Each time theres elections, they co opt their chums What's the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 37 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: What if they'd both wanted to, and Bassini as well? It was on the market for months. ED was trying to sell for years. All ED got was Bolton’s answer to del boy and Rodney. All KA got was bloke who pulled out when the bill arrived and Bassini. Of course the Trust will peddle the line that there are ‘high net worth’ individuals who will invest billions if only ED/KA weren’t here. If you can’t see through that agenda....then you are incredibly naive. ED sold it for a quid to keep it going. KA sold for very little it seems too. They haven’t don’t that because there were billionaires queuing up to buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 44 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Possibly engaging supporters association and invite all supporters forums and season ticket holders to a meeting to see if there is a way forward. It really is time all fans dropped there issues and pulled in the same direction. Couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 46 minutes ago, Casino said: Each time theres elections, they co opt their chums What's the point They can only get away with that for so long. If that happens continually there is nothing to stop an alternative Trust being formed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: It was on the market for months. ED was trying to sell for years. All ED got was Bolton’s answer to del boy and Rodney. All KA got was bloke who pulled out when the bill arrived and Bassini. Of course the Trust will peddle the line that there are ‘high net worth’ individuals who will invest billions if only ED/KA weren’t here. If you can’t see through that agenda....then you are incredibly naive. ED sold it for a quid to keep it going. KA sold for very little it seems too. They haven’t don’t that because there were billionaires queuing up to buy it. Billionaires or Bassini again. It's a fake argument. It's not about demanding we get a Saudi Prince to buy us, it's about not sacking Jimmy Saville as your babysitter, hiring Gary Glitter and expecting things to be ok. I've said multiple times that I don't believe Gaspard & Basran had the funds to clear the debts, but it's pretty obvious Bassini doesn't either. We don't know anything about why their bids were unsuccessful, and so stating Bassini was the only show in town as a fact, just isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HR Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 There is no one coming forward to join the ST Board, hence the need for co opted Board members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 21, 2019 Moderators Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 hour ago, HR said: There is no one coming forward to join the ST Board, hence the need for co opted Board members. How many are on the board these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 hour ago, HR said: There is no one coming forward to join the ST Board, hence the need for co opted Board members. Correct, but the Trust must look at themselves and ask why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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