Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 28, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted April 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Fuck in hell that must go down as your worst post ever. It's not as if the debt to HMRC disappears is it! Club chairmen everywhere having light bulb moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny The Ball Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, Casino said: I'm presuming a failure to pay wages means the debt to HMRC doesn't increase Possibly a point to remember when folk are clamouring for the wages to be paid? You still legally have to issue payslips ( whether you pay the salary or not ) on or around the due pay date , be that weekly or monthly - as the contract of employment states - so the tax or Ni that you are thinking you can save by not paying the salaries when due is still a liability of the business and continues to grow each month and interest will accrue daily on the overdue tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Part of me doesn't want another extension, I want a resolution to this one way or the other it's making me ill the never ending uncertainty and I'm sure others the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 28, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted April 28, 2019 29 minutes ago, Marc505 said: Part of me doesn't want another extension, I want a resolution to this one way or the other it's making me ill the never ending uncertainty and I'm sure others the same. I agree, though to be honest, I'll be fucked if I'm letting them all make me ill. Been through too much shit to let it take me down that road again. In that regard they can all get fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrotter Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 What frutrastes me is that we had eventually taken the pain with our two relegations and cost cutting. Appreciate income remained modest but I thought the hard work had been just about done last year and we might consolidate. We won't be the last though, both Premier League and Championship are basket cases. Swansea have published their full accounts today for 17/18. In the PL they had operating losses of almost £1m PER WEEK, before player disposals, etc. https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire . Also lose £60m parachute next year for not getting back in the Prem this season. Presumably WBA the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 28, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted April 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, TrickyTrotter said: What frutrastes me is that we had eventually taken the pain with our two relegations and cost cutting. Appreciate income remained modest but I thought the hard work had been just about done last year and we might consolidate. We won't be the last though, both Premier League and Championship are basket cases. Swansea have published their full accounts today for 17/18. In the PL they had operating losses of almost £1m PER WEEK, before player disposals, etc. https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire . Also lose £60m parachute next year for not getting back in the Prem this season. Presumably WBA the same. The disparity between money from the prem to other leagues is making it difficult for teams that go down. The example set by Burnley, has to be a blueprint for other teams. Not overspending and protecting the financial integrity of the club. Also important not to over react by immediately flirting the manager- especially if, like Dyche, he's got you there in the first place. Allowing time to continue to build and go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: The disparity between money from the prem to other leagues is making it difficult for teams that go down. The example set by Burnley, has to be a blueprint for other teams. Not overspending and protecting the financial integrity of the club. Also important not to over react by immediately flirting the manager- especially if, like Dyche, he's got you there in the first place. Allowing time to continue to build and go again. But when Dyche goes they might struggle and a new manager will want backing. That’s when the test comes. So far they’ve not done anything different to us at a similar stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 28, 2019 Moderators Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Benny The Ball said: You still legally have to issue payslips ( whether you pay the salary or not ) on or around the due pay date , be that weekly or monthly - as the contract of employment states - so the tax or Ni that you are thinking you can save by not paying the salaries when due is still a liability of the business and continues to grow each month and interest will accrue daily on the overdue tax Okey coke I was pretty sure we paid wages late on the first of the month during this season It was suggested at the time it delayed the due date to HMRC Knowing your background, I'll take your word for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 28, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted April 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: But when Dyche goes they might struggle and a new manager will want backing. That’s when the test comes. So far they’ve not done anything different to us at a similar stage. They won't appoint a new manager who isn't prepared to accept the way the club is run though. The have also been promoted, gone down and come straight back up, which is very different to what we did. As is the huge personal investment from an owner to lift spending power beyond living within our means. So quite different really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: They won't appoint a new manager who isn't prepared to accept the way the club is run though. The have also been promoted, gone down and come straight back up, which is very different to what we did. As is the huge personal investment from an owner to lift spending power beyond living within our means. So quite different really. Watch them go for Sven now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 28, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted April 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Marc505 said: Watch them go for Sven now After we've appointed Dyche!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, TrickyTrotter said: What frutrastes me is that we had eventually taken the pain with our two relegations and cost cutting. Appreciate income remained modest but I thought the hard work had been just about done last year and we might consolidate. We won't be the last though, both Premier League and Championship are basket cases. Swansea have published their full accounts today for 17/18. In the PL they had operating losses of almost £1m PER WEEK, before player disposals, etc. https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire . Also lose £60m parachute next year for not getting back in the Prem this season. Presumably WBA the same. Swansea issued statutory notice of redundancy to all their non-playing staff yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: After we've appointed Dyche!! We'll Coyle him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 28, 2019 Moderators Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, bwfcfan5 said: But when Dyche goes they might struggle and a new manager will want backing. That’s when the test comes. So far they’ve not done anything different to us at a similar stage. Dunno about that, they selling on at a massive profit (Keane and Grey) and reinvesting in good players at half the value of what they've sold (Gibson and Wood) They're doing it more like how Wigan used to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted April 28, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted April 28, 2019 I don’t like Burnley but begrudgingly admire the way they go about their business and the way they play. i really hope we are still 10 years ahead of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eavesy Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Aye good luck to them when they have to build a 25000 seater stadium with full corporate facilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 40 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: Dunno about that, they selling on at a massive profit (Keane and Grey) and reinvesting in good players at half the value of what they've sold (Gibson and Wood) They're doing it more like how Wigan used to do it Keep downgrading and it bites you on the arse. Wouldn’t be suprised if they went down in the next 2-3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted April 28, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted April 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Keep downgrading and it bites you on the arse. Wouldn’t be suprised if they went down in the next 2-3 years. They’ll go down within 18 months of Dyche taking over from Benitez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 28, 2019 Moderators Share Posted April 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Keep downgrading and it bites you on the arse. Wouldn’t be suprised if they went down in the next 2-3 years. you could argue Wood was an upgrade - according to Wiki - 20 in 59, whilst Grey has managed 11 in 57 for Watford they've got some shit back up though like Crouch, Walters and Vydra - they'll definitely need to upgrade on them next season or not, just keep the money in the bank and don't spunk it on shit that'll take you down and weigh you down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Just now, ZicoKelly said: you could argue Wood was an upgrade - according to Wiki - 20 in 59, whilst Grey has managed 11 in 57 for Watford they've got some shit back up though like Crouch, Walters and Vydra - they'll definitely need to upgrade on them next season or not, just keep the money in the bank and don't spunk it on shit that'll take you down and weigh you down What I’m trying to say is they have to keep being shrewd and also lucky in the market, that won’t last forever they will go down sooner rather than later, luckily for them at the moment they continue to be shrewd and operate profitably, something we failed to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I remember Burnley being called the next team of the 70s in a Football Magazine. I think that was way off the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, leigh white said: I remember Burnley being called the next team of the 70s in a Football Magazine. I think that was way off the mark. Or Crystal Palace who were described as 'the team of the 80's'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, leigh white said: I remember Burnley being called the next team of the 70s in a Football Magazine. I think that was way off the mark. I recall Steve Kindon going to Jimmy Adamson and telling him he wanted to buy a house and settle down with his girlfriend, and asking how he stood with Burnley. Adamson put an arm round his shoulder and said "Son, we are going to build the team of the Seventies around you." So Steve got engaged and bought a house. Three weeks later he was sold to Wolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: you could argue Wood was an upgrade - according to Wiki - 20 in 59, whilst Grey has managed 11 in 57 for Watford they've got some shit back up though like Crouch, Walters and Vydra - they'll definitely need to upgrade on them next season or not, just keep the money in the bank and don't spunk it on shit that'll take you down and weigh you down Dwight McNeill who joined the academy from Man Utd at 14, scholar of the year last season... they have invested in the right places sure barnfield will be able to cope with construction of a stadium too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: Or Crystal Palace who were described as 'the team of the 80's'! If he kept his job after those predictions, good luck to the nutcase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts