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16 minutes ago, Casino said:

I'm presuming a failure to pay wages means the debt to HMRC doesn't increase

Possibly a point to remember when folk are clamouring for the wages to be paid?

You still legally have to issue payslips ( whether you pay the salary or not )  on or around the due pay date , be that weekly or monthly - as the contract of employment states - so the tax or Ni that you are thinking you can save by not paying the salaries when due is still a liability of the business and continues to grow each month and interest will accrue daily on the overdue tax 

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29 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

Part of me doesn't want another extension, I want a resolution to this one way or the other it's making me ill the never ending uncertainty and I'm sure others the same.

 

I agree, though to be honest, I'll be fucked if I'm letting them all make me ill.

Been through too much shit to let it take me down that road again.

In that regard they can all get fucked.

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What frutrastes me is that we had eventually taken the pain with our two relegations and cost cutting.  Appreciate income remained  modest but I thought the hard work had been just about done last year and we might consolidate.  

We won't be the last though, both Premier League and Championship are basket cases.  Swansea have published their full accounts today for 17/18.  In the PL they had operating losses of almost £1m PER WEEK, before player disposals, etc.   https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire .  Also lose £60m parachute next year for not getting back in the Prem this season.  Presumably WBA the same.

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5 minutes ago, TrickyTrotter said:

What frutrastes me is that we had eventually taken the pain with our two relegations and cost cutting.  Appreciate income remained  modest but I thought the hard work had been just about done last year and we might consolidate.  

We won't be the last though, both Premier League and Championship are basket cases.  Swansea have published their full accounts today for 17/18.  In the PL they had operating losses of almost £1m PER WEEK, before player disposals, etc.   https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire .  Also lose £60m parachute next year for not getting back in the Prem this season.  Presumably WBA the same.

The disparity between money from the prem to other leagues is making it difficult for teams that go down. The example set by Burnley, has to be a blueprint for other teams. Not overspending and protecting the financial integrity of the club. Also important not to over react by immediately flirting the manager- especially if, like Dyche, he's got you there in the first place. Allowing time to continue to build and go again.

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23 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

The disparity between money from the prem to other leagues is making it difficult for teams that go down. The example set by Burnley, has to be a blueprint for other teams. Not overspending and protecting the financial integrity of the club. Also important not to over react by immediately flirting the manager- especially if, like Dyche, he's got you there in the first place. Allowing time to continue to build and go again.

But when Dyche goes they might struggle and a new manager will want backing. That’s when the test comes. So far they’ve not done anything different to us at a similar stage. 

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1 hour ago, Benny The Ball said:

You still legally have to issue payslips ( whether you pay the salary or not )  on or around the due pay date , be that weekly or monthly - as the contract of employment states - so the tax or Ni that you are thinking you can save by not paying the salaries when due is still a liability of the business and continues to grow each month and interest will accrue daily on the overdue tax 

Okey coke

I was pretty sure we paid wages late on the first of the month during this season

It was suggested at the time it delayed the due date to HMRC

Knowing your background, I'll take your word for it

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28 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

But when Dyche goes they might struggle and a new manager will want backing. That’s when the test comes. So far they’ve not done anything different to us at a similar stage. 

They won't appoint a new manager who isn't prepared to accept the way the club is run though.

The have also been promoted, gone down and come straight back up, which is very different to what we did.

As is the huge personal investment from an owner to lift spending power beyond living within our means.

So quite different really.

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6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

They won't appoint a new manager who isn't prepared to accept the way the club is run though.

The have also been promoted, gone down and come straight back up, which is very different to what we did.

As is the huge personal investment from an owner to lift spending power beyond living within our means.

So quite different really.

Watch them go for Sven now :D

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1 hour ago, TrickyTrotter said:

What frutrastes me is that we had eventually taken the pain with our two relegations and cost cutting.  Appreciate income remained  modest but I thought the hard work had been just about done last year and we might consolidate.  

We won't be the last though, both Premier League and Championship are basket cases.  Swansea have published their full accounts today for 17/18.  In the PL they had operating losses of almost £1m PER WEEK, before player disposals, etc.   https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire .  Also lose £60m parachute next year for not getting back in the Prem this season.  Presumably WBA the same.

Swansea issued statutory notice of redundancy to all their non-playing staff yesterday.

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1 hour ago, bwfcfan5 said:

But when Dyche goes they might struggle and a new manager will want backing. That’s when the test comes. So far they’ve not done anything different to us at a similar stage. 

Dunno about that, they selling on at a massive profit (Keane and Grey) and reinvesting in good players at half the value of what they've sold (Gibson and Wood)

They're doing it more like how Wigan used to do it

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40 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

Dunno about that, they selling on at a massive profit (Keane and Grey) and reinvesting in good players at half the value of what they've sold (Gibson and Wood)

They're doing it more like how Wigan used to do it

Keep downgrading and it bites you on the arse. Wouldn’t be suprised if they went down in the next 2-3 years. 

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6 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Keep downgrading and it bites you on the arse. Wouldn’t be suprised if they went down in the next 2-3 years. 

They’ll go down within 18 months of Dyche taking over from Benitez.

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19 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Keep downgrading and it bites you on the arse. Wouldn’t be suprised if they went down in the next 2-3 years. 

you could argue Wood was an upgrade - according to Wiki - 20 in 59, whilst Grey has managed 11 in 57 for Watford

they've got some shit back up though like Crouch, Walters and Vydra - they'll definitely need to upgrade on them next season

or not, just keep the money in the bank and don't spunk it on shit that'll take you down and weigh you down

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Just now, ZicoKelly said:

you could argue Wood was an upgrade - according to Wiki - 20 in 59, whilst Grey has managed 11 in 57 for Watford

they've got some shit back up though like Crouch, Walters and Vydra - they'll definitely need to upgrade on them next season

or not, just keep the money in the bank and don't spunk it on shit that'll take you down and weigh you down

What I’m trying to say is they have to keep being shrewd and also lucky in the market, that won’t last forever they will go down sooner rather than later, luckily for them at the moment they continue to be shrewd and operate profitably, something we failed to do. 

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6 minutes ago, leigh white said:

I remember Burnley being called the next team of the 70s in a Football Magazine. I think that was way off the mark.:D

I recall Steve Kindon going to Jimmy Adamson and telling him he wanted to buy a house and settle down with his girlfriend, and asking how he stood with Burnley.

Adamson put an arm round his shoulder and said "Son, we are going to build the team of the Seventies around you."

So Steve got engaged and bought a house. Three weeks later he was sold to Wolves.

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25 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

you could argue Wood was an upgrade - according to Wiki - 20 in 59, whilst Grey has managed 11 in 57 for Watford

they've got some shit back up though like Crouch, Walters and Vydra - they'll definitely need to upgrade on them next season

or not, just keep the money in the bank and don't spunk it on shit that'll take you down and weigh you down

Dwight McNeill who joined the academy from Man Utd at 14, scholar of the year last season... they have invested in the right places

 

sure barnfield will be able to cope with construction of a stadium too

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