paulhanley Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 31 minutes ago, Howardroark said: Firstly, thanks for taking the time to come on here to question my assertions. Exclusivity couldn’t be given by KA, it could however be given by Moonshift in respect of the sale of the debt. That now puts the buyer in a very strong position given that they could actually put the club in to administration if they so wished. £30M would be the amount that EFL would need to see to address the debt. It’s also fairly common knowledge that this was the entry point that the owner was looking for when he pitched the club across the City. I don’t consider social media to be the right platform given its broad coverage of interested parties. Timing wise, anybody of serious wealth/interest does not court publicity until the moment it is necessary, that was always going to be Tuesday. Yes I expect a sale as opposed to the taking of the shares, I don’t however think that means the buyer has any additional costs, and they would probably rather avoid a last minute purchase ‘on the steps’. John Galt is a character from a book called ‘Atlas Shrugged’ by Ayn Rand. Howard Roark is a character from a book called ‘The Fountainhead’ also by Ayn Rand. The person behind the account came here to directly question my statements from 2 weeks ago. The comment regarding ‘don’t ever leave me again’ was an attempt at humour and related directly to the previous correspondence with him/her. In terms of the squad and manager I think the club requires youth, vigour and fresh ideas. I also believe in Sabremetrics so it’ll be acquisitions based on this. With apologies if I have missed something earlier in the day while at work, Howard ..... this reference to Sabremetrics is very interesting. Is it the first time you have used that word on here?You clearly think this translates from baseball to football. What makes you think the bidders will base their strategy on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razaldo9 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, paulhanley said: In terms of the squad and manager I think the club requires youth, vigour and fresh ideas. I also believe in Sabremetrics so it’ll be acquisitions based on this. You believe in sabermetrics, but you imply that will be the route be the club take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howardroark Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, paulhanley said: With apologies if I have missed something earlier in the day while at work, Howard ..... this reference to Sabremetrics is very interesting. Is it the first time you have used that word on here?You clearly think this translates from baseball to football. What makes you think the bidders will base their strategy on this? Yes the first time I have used this word on here. I believe it translates at a L1 level, not so much in the PL or Championship as the flair factor is too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 21, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Razaldo9 said: You believe in sabermetrics, but you imply that will be the route be the club take? A miss quote there surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howardroark Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Razaldo9 said: You believe in sabermetrics, but you imply that will be the route be the club take? It should read that I’m suggesting young players acquired based on sabremetrics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Howardroark said: Yes the first time I have used this word on here. I believe it translates at a L1 level, not so much in the PL or Championship as the flair factor is too high. I'd say Preston and Brentford are good examples at Championship level although clearly neither have won promotion doing this! For someone whose knowledge extends as far as having watched Moneyball this is fascinating stuff. I take it our bidder is from the other side of the pond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howardroark Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, paulhanley said: I'd say Preston and Brentford are good examples at Championship level although clearly neither have won promotion doing this! For someone whose knowledge extends as far as having watched Moneyball this is fascinating stuff. I take it our bidder is from the other side of the pond? Not necessarily a US buyer, sabremetrics has evolved in to off the shelf software packages and AI modelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Howardroark said: Not necessarily a US buyer, sabremetrics has evolved in to off the shelf software packages and AI modelling Fair do's and thanks. If it's to be sabremetrics then clearly the bidder will already have thought about who will do the analysis and I'd guess we're probably in Director of Football territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howardroark Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, paulhanley said: Fair do's and thanks. If it's to be sabremetrics then clearly the bidder will already have thought about who will do the analysis and I'd guess we're probably in Director of Football territory. I believe that’ll be the set-up, yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, paulhanley said: Fair do's and thanks. If it's to be sabremetrics then clearly the bidder will already have thought about who will do the analysis and I'd guess we're probably in Director of Football territory. Which is what Warburton and Weir are so familiar with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyoneawalker Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Howardroark said: I believe that’ll be the set-up, yes Have I jumped to the wrong assumption thinking mark warburton was with Basran then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howardroark Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kane57 said: Which is what Warburton and Weir are so familiar with To be clear, I said my preference was for sabremetrics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watsmore Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Bunch of fucking snowflakes are we lads?Cant say Balti basran,maybe it could offend curries?or Asians?Your just a bunch of politicaly correct robotic fuckwits.Millions have died in wars to give us our freedom,and that includes speech,you lillywhite twats.Hope theres never another falklands,nancy pamby,soft bastards like you lot wouldn't last an hour at the foot of mount tumbledown,pissed wet through,5 below,diareer from drinking mud,and under fire in the pitch black.yeah fuck you dickwads,enjoy your poncy snowflake lives.COYWM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted March 21, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 21, 2019 Thanks for that valuable input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRepWanderer Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Watsmore said: Bunch of fucking snowflakes are we lads?Cant say Balti basran,maybe it could offend curries?or Asians?Your just a bunch of politicaly correct robotic fuckwits.Millions have died in wars to give us our freedom,and that includes speech,you lillywhite twats.Hope theres never another falklands,nancy pamby,soft bastards like you lot wouldn't last an hour at the foot of mount tumbledown,pissed wet through,5 below,diareer from drinking mud,and under fire in the pitch black.yeah fuck you dickwads,enjoy your poncy snowflake lives.COYWM It must have been at a young age that you were in the Falklands, because sure as fuck you didn't get an education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ros Coe Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) I think Mark Warburton may have fallen out with the Brentford chairman due to him (chairman) wanting to use sabermetrics to identify potential transfer targets.. Edited March 21, 2019 by Ros Coe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted March 21, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Watsmore said: Bunch of fucking snowflakes are we lads?Cant say Balti basran,maybe it could offend curries?or Asians?Your just a bunch of politicaly correct robotic fuckwits.Millions have died in wars to give us our freedom,and that includes speech,you lillywhite twats.Hope theres never another falklands,nancy pamby,soft bastards like you lot wouldn't last an hour at the foot of mount tumbledown,pissed wet through,5 below,diareer from drinking mud,and under fire in the pitch black.yeah fuck you dickwads,enjoy your poncy snowflake lives.COYWM The Last Post #irony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watsmore Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 That was supposed to be my parting shot.Cant believe you allowed that.Dont know whether to say thanks or just say nowt.😯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, Watsmore said: Bunch of fucking snowflakes are we lads?Cant say Balti basran,maybe it could offend curries?or Asians?Your just a bunch of politicaly correct robotic fuckwits.Millions have died in wars to give us our freedom,and that includes speech,you lillywhite twats.Hope theres never another falklands,nancy pamby,soft bastards like you lot wouldn't last an hour at the foot of mount tumbledown,pissed wet through,5 below,diareer from drinking mud,and under fire in the pitch black.yeah fuck you dickwads,enjoy your poncy snowflake lives.COYWM Diareer is a fucking killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantra Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Hi again, Howard. Thanks for the reply. I've been reading from page 50 to page 160 since last night. My head hurts now, so I'm going to do something less stressful on my brain. Before I forget however, you said: "On Tuesday a notification of the purchase of the Moonshift debt in respect of Inner Circle by consortium A A formal bid for the company which delays HMRC winder Formal notification to KA that in 14 days his shares will be redeemed due to default on the loan. On pay day- Ken accepts bid and signs over." Which seems to be spot on. But you also said (paraphrased): Basran, before buying the club would have to 'trust' Ken, and advance him the amount to pay off HMRC. Because the WU must be paid before the club can change hands, otherwise the sale can be reversed. Is this not the case for the Mystery Buyer? Due to the fact that they'll be paying off everything in full, so they say? Or is it more that, if they give Ken the amount to pay off HMRC and he doesn't relinquish control as promised, they can just buy out Moonshift and out him that way, therefore not getting a payday? Sorry if that's already been covered, but I can't stand to read another 50 pages right now haha. Cheers. (I've already read most of the posts from page 160-now but a lot of it lacked context of everything in the thread from 50-160, so I went back to see how this all began.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, Watsmore said: Bunch of fucking snowflakes are we lads?Cant say Balti basran,maybe it could offend curries?or Asians?Your just a bunch of politicaly correct robotic fuckwits.Millions have died in wars to give us our freedom,and that includes speech,you lillywhite twats.Hope theres never another falklands,nancy pamby,soft bastards like you lot wouldn't last an hour at the foot of mount tumbledown,pissed wet through,5 below,diareer from drinking mud,and under fire in the pitch black.yeah fuck you dickwads,enjoy your poncy snowflake lives.COYWM I'm pretty sure that when my great grandfather was killed in the war - he died in the hope that one day - you'd be able to say that Parminder Basran smelt of curry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howardroark Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, Watsmore said: Bunch of fucking snowflakes are we lads?Cant say Balti basran,maybe it could offend curries?or Asians?Your just a bunch of politicaly correct robotic fuckwits.Millions have died in wars to give us our freedom,and that includes speech,you lillywhite twats.Hope theres never another falklands,nancy pamby,soft bastards like you lot wouldn't last an hour at the foot of mount tumbledown,pissed wet through,5 below,diareer from drinking mud,and under fire in the pitch black.yeah fuck you dickwads,enjoy your poncy snowflake lives.COYWM I believe millions died in wars fighting facism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watsmore Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Diareer is a fucking killer. So are bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watsmore Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, Howardroark said: I believe millions died in wars fighting facism? Don't start like that howard.Dont taint what a blessing you are on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Watsmore said: That was supposed to be my parting shot.Cant believe you allowed that.Dont know whether to say thanks or just say nowt.😯 Say nowt. You look daft enough already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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