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2 minutes ago, Benny The Ball said:

When you first came on here you said the information you were quoting was in the public domain or was based on rational assumptions 

This is if correct very specific information are you sure you are not very close to events ? 

 

It is in the public domain, 

£28.9m debt (£8m to Ken-Moonshift) This comes from the registered charges and debentures on companies house and then an overview of their most recent accounts.

£2M for Ken 

£8m + £2m is £10m 

leaves £20.9 

The £30Mish figure has been public knowledge for a long time because it’s literally the stated debt.

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16 minutes ago, Howardroark said:

KA has put his price on the table, it’s £10M  to buy him out. Buyers will then have to negotiate directly with creditors (£20M or so) so you are broadly correct, he can’t control the deals done between buyers and creditors. 

As of tomorrow KA puts his price up by £1M for paying wages, but in theory that just reduces the creditors (players) by the same amount.

 

My head hurts.

How much of that 10 million would be profit for KA

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2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Surely that’s not been disclosed in the public domain, doubt I’d of missed that. 

It doesn’t explicitly state it but read between the lines of various meetings held between those parties and BWFC. Those meetings are public domain.

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8 minutes ago, Howardroark said:

It is in the public domain, 

£28.9m debt (£8m to Ken-Moonshift) This comes from the registered charges and debentures on companies house and then an overview of their most recent accounts.

£2M for Ken 

£8m + £2m is £10m 

leaves £20.9 

The £30Mish figure has been public knowledge for a long time because it’s literally the stated debt.

£2m for Ken - guess or you know that’s what he wants Lee - I mean Howard

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Here's  the Twenty Ten Capital file at Companies House. It doesn't amount to much either:

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09916348/filing-history

Connections? There are a few but then again

What do they amount to?

Players wages day tomorrow. Gonna be a lot less than a million quid when tax is deducted and tax ain't due till mid April.

Ken paying wages out of his pocket? Can't see it somehow..

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14 minutes ago, Howardroark said:

It is in the public domain, 

£28.9m debt (£8m to Ken-Moonshift) This comes from the registered charges and debentures on companies house and then an overview of their most recent accounts.

£2M for Ken 

£8m + £2m is £10m 

leaves £20.9 

The £30Mish figure has been public knowledge for a long time because it’s literally the stated debt.

£28.9m registered charges? Thought that was £16m and £12m unsecured?

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20 minutes ago, onlyoneawalker said:

How are they better options if just pure speculation? 

Bill Gates?

 

and why the stigma around Bolton secures creditors relatively low to peers and unsecured HMRC aside relatively easily sorted - why are we a basket case when Derby’s losing £3m a month?

Secured creditors are an issue because the club is in default on the obligations therefore owed in full, immediately, same with most of the unsecured. 

Likewise all the assets are leveraged out already, borrowed against for short term cash flow so you can raise further funds through typical lending. 

At Derby there’s no entry cost.

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Just now, Howardroark said:

Secured creditors are an issue because the club is in default on the obligations therefore owed in full, immediately, same with most of the unsecured. 

Likewise all the assets are leveraged out already, borrowed against for short term cash flow so you can raise further funds through typical lending. 

At Derby there’s no entry cost.

What Morris doesn’t want a bean for it? 

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5 minutes ago, onlyoneawalker said:

What Morris doesn’t want a bean for it? 

He wants an earn out- same as Eddie originally asked for (£15M on promotion to Peen)- note I don’t know what value he wants etc.

Caveats are based around proof funds to be invested in delivering that goal. 

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3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Where in the public domain? 

Conferences ‘hosted’ at the stadium press reports; 

Attendees of sporting events/sportsmen talks; 

Chairman’s reports for associated companies; 

Newsletters; 

Trade Magazines; 

 

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