Johnnyrotten Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, ZicoKelly said: Were you not around from 2003-2007? Not sure what that's got to do with the present prem? But I'm not looking for anyone to agree, it's just my win view, I would rather watch us being competitive in the championship than losing against the Bournemouths and brightons whilst never seeing the ball in a third of the games played in front of huge crowds that clap politely and take pics when they score their 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted February 7, 2019 Moderators Share Posted February 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: Not sure what that's got to do with the present prem? But I'm not looking for anyone to agree, it's just my win view, I would rather watch us being competitive in the championship We're not even competitive in the championship And if you are you're trying to get out of it And if we do there's no reason we can't compete in the PL again like we once did Like Burnley last season And even if you're down the bottom you're competing to stay in it Sorry, I just don't get this mentality that you'd rather plod along in this league than get promoted and have another crack at the PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 8, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: Not sure what that's got to do with the present prem? But I'm not looking for anyone to agree, it's just my win view, I would rather watch us being competitive in the championship than losing against the Bournemouths and brightons whilst never seeing the ball in a third of the games played in front of huge crowds that clap politely and take pics when they score their 4th. Well relative season ticket sales, Bolton in the Prem and Bolton in the Championship says your view isn't the same as most other supporters. I get that the first year after relegation would still see fairly healthy ST sales because the expectation is still there. Now, a few years and further relegation and promotion later we are really running out of any positive outlook. Unless something massive happens between now and the start of next season, we'll struggle to reach 4 or 5,000 ST sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Anyone saying they do not want to get promoted needs to give their head a wobble. Look at Burnley. A lot needs to change at the club before start dreaming Fleetwood lot more likely than Arsenal for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Could well be playing Salford next year the way we are both going, dear me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I’d rather spend the rest of my bolton watching life watching us go up and down the divisions to be honest. Theres always a hull, forest or Gillingham just around the corner and a few years in the sunshine at the top. Being a championship also ran or similar just doesn’t float my boat at all. Preston, Bradford, Peterborough, Coventry in recent times etc ...what a shit mundane existence the likes of them have really had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Could well be playing Salford next year the way we are both going, dear me Not next year but we might pass them on way down the year after. By the end of next seasons Salford could be above Bolton that’s a frightening thought. Edited February 8, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Not next year but we might pass them on way down the year after. By the end of next seasons Salford could be above Bolton that’s a frightening thought. I meant calendar year, September 2020 Doubt we would drop to League Two but they have a solid chance of getting to League One I imagine Either way it’s would be a shit show Edited February 8, 2019 by birch-chorley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Steady on lads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted February 8, 2019 Moderators Share Posted February 8, 2019 12 hours ago, Eavesy said: State of that team What a midfield that it youri Nolan frandsen okocha gardner You say that. Chelsea absolutely fucking battered us, the speed with which they attacked was scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregbwfc Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 11 hours ago, ZicoKelly said: Were you not around from 2003-2007? Was thinking the same. Think people forget just how close we got to qualifying for champs league, which would have been an amazing achievement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted February 8, 2019 Moderators Share Posted February 8, 2019 11 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: Not sure what that's got to do with the present prem? But I'm not looking for anyone to agree, it's just my win view, I would rather watch us being competitive in the championship than losing against the Bournemouths and brightons whilst never seeing the ball in a third of the games played in front of huge crowds that clap politely and take pics when they score their 4th. the other thing to do when you imagine/dream/fantasise about us being back in the PL and what it might be like just pretend Bournemouth and Brighton get relegated the season we get promoted to avoid long dull trips then imagine Wigan and Blackburn or whoever else you like going to away in the Championship like Sheff Weds also get promoted, so that it gives us some local derbies and/or easy games to get to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eavesy Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, Carlos said: You say that. Chelsea absolutely fucking battered us, the speed with which they attacked was scary. Oh I can imagine. We had campo at centre back I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 3 hours ago, birch-chorley said: Could well be playing Salford next year the way we are both going, dear me the local fuckwits like reminding me of this; despite they all claimed to utd/Bolton fans up to two years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 15 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: No games under Parky are enjoyable whether it's the prem or the unibond. This topic is only relevant if it's assumed we have a manager that likes to attack. What about when he won at Chelsea with Bradford City? Or when he scared Chelsea with Colchester? Of course since then he has 'matured' at a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted February 8, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 minute ago, MalcolmW said: What about when he won at Chelsea with Bradford City? Or when he scared Chelsea with Colchester? Of course since then he has 'matured' at a manager. He's actually regressed tactically. We were only saying last week, in his early days, he didn't chop & change as much and he had a plan. Nowadays I honestly think he is totally clueless & has no idea what his next team selection is gonna be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: What about when he won at Chelsea with Bradford City? Or when he scared Chelsea with Colchester? Of course since then he has 'matured' at a manager. To clarify, I meant league games. Cup games under Parky are generally OK, he plays a different system so we get for eg the Palace games, the Sheff Wed 3-2, Walsall 5-1 and Bradford win at Chelsea. It has no relevance to league games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 13 hours ago, ZicoKelly said: We're not even competitive in the championship And if you are you're trying to get out of it And if we do there's no reason we can't compete in the PL again like we once did Like Burnley last season And even if you're down the bottom you're competing to stay in it Sorry, I just don't get this mentality that you'd rather plod along in this league than get promoted and have another crack at the PL Fair points. I know we aren't currently competitive in the championship, I did say the conversation is only relevant if we get a proper manager. What division we're in is irrelevant under Parky, its going to be grim and/or embarrassing. I don't quite agree you're trying to get out of a division if you're competitive. Wolves are great in the Prem but they're not trying to finish in a champions league position, they're just trying to get results every week, same as Watford, and I'd love us to be like that in either of the top 2 divisions. Like I say, each to their own, I get where everyone's coming from wanting to be in the Prem, I just personally would be settle for being a Derby or QPR or Forest where realistically you're going nowhere but you're getting some great results or performances home or away 2 or 3 times a month. I don't see us ever getting the pleasure of seeing that level in the Prem without the massive benefactors of a Bournemouth or a Wolves. And compared to when we were in the Prem its become more boring and predictable, I'm not looking for us to be part of it at the expense of enjoying the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 8, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 8, 2019 I reckon wolves would love to get in a champ's league position. It may not be a direct aim, but if you take a game at a time and win most of them then who knows. Can see your point, but it isn't sustainable long term. If the club became too content to not challenge, then it starts to lose its soul. Slow decline potentially. Look at Prestoncha for example. Happy with mediocrity and spends time wuming elsewhere because it's shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 4 hours ago, gonzo said: I’d rather spend the rest of my bolton watching life watching us go up and down the divisions to be honest. Theres always a hull, forest or Gillingham just around the corner and a few years in the sunshine at the top. Being a championship also ran or similar just doesn’t float my boat at all. Preston, Bradford, Peterborough, Coventry in recent times etc ...what a shit mundane existence the likes of them have really had. I wouldn't have minded watching some of Posh's goalscorers in last few years though! Boyd, Tomlin, Marriott, Assombalonga, Gayle, Mackail-Smith before he went to Brighton - it shows how dreadful we've been when a mid table Div 1 club has 6 better strikers just off top of my head than some we had in the Prem (I'm talking N'Gog, Sordell, Rasiak etc not the exceptions like Klasnic & Davies) and definitely better than anything we've managed in the championship years. For what its worth, all those boring sides have at least had 6 trips to Wembley between them in the last 4 years! And all were won except Bradford's 2 visits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 8, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 8, 2019 Were they in play offs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eavesy Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Steejay said: He's actually regressed tactically. We were only saying last week, in his early days, he didn't chop & change as much and he had a plan. Nowadays I honestly think he is totally clueless & has no idea what his next team selection is gonna be. He’s always been poor tactically. He just had madine previously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I just don't think they understand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRepWanderer Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 On 04/02/2019 at 20:23, Steejay said: Yep, it feels worse than what it says in the table. If you stand back a bit then it’s recoverable. When you’re at the games, it’s just depressing. It certainly is recoverable but not with Parkinson at the helm I'm afraid. on a side note we've lost Stelios from the running he's just been made assistant manager of Greece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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