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6 minutes ago, PrestonCha said:

I don't think you can underestimate the impact that a sustained period in the Premiership can have on the support of a club. Loads come crawling out of the woodwork. You'll obviously loose a few due to relegation, but a decent amount do stick around...... just look at Wigan for example.

It'd be interesting to compare the crowds of PNE, Bolton, Blackburn and Burnley, if none of the clubs had ever been in the Prem, but spent a decent amount of time together at the same level.

Good point that to be fair.

Huddersfield be one to watch on that score. 

Anyway sod the crowds statto you'll awaken Malcolm to come on with some statistics if your not careful.

You lot need to give us a helping hand on Saturday we must be due a dodgy penalty or a sending off in our favour at some point in a decade. 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, PrestonCha said:

It'd be interesting to compare the crowds of PNE, Bolton, Blackburn and Burnley, if none of the clubs had ever been in the Prem, but spent a decent amount of time together at the same level.

1889-2018 average crowds; Bolton 16,947, Preston 13,128. Seasons in top flight; Bolton 73 Preston 46

Bit unfair as we've had more seasons in the top flight. Better one;

1889-1961 Bolton 18,654 Preston 15,340. Seasons in top flight; Bolton 55 Preston 46

Still a bit unfair. Have to go back a way to even things up;

1889-1925 Bolton 14,145 Preston 10,193. Seasons in top flight, Bolton 28 Preston 28.

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I just don’t get the attraction of our place for a big jolly. 

It must shit for an away fan. There’s never any trains and you have to walk past the ground to the nearest and only pub. 

Preston on the other hand is a belting away...

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4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

I just don’t get the attraction of our place for a big jolly. 

It must shit for an away fan. There’s never any trains and you have to walk past the ground to the nearest and only pub. 

Preston on the other hand is a belting away...

It’s fucking embarrassing . I live in Preston and always have pre-match drinks with some PNE mates for both games. Spoilt for choice in Preston and am out for 12 hours usually. Home game means Coast to fucking Coast , or Frankie & bastard Benny, with one poor designated driver.

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26 minutes ago, wakey said:

1889-2018 average crowds; Bolton 16,947, Preston 13,128. Seasons in top flight; Bolton 73 Preston 46

Bit unfair as we've had more seasons in the top flight. Better one;

1889-1961 Bolton 18,654 Preston 15,340. Seasons in top flight; Bolton 55 Preston 46

Still a bit unfair. Have to go back a way to even things up;

1889-1925 Bolton 14,145 Preston 10,193. Seasons in top flight, Bolton 28 Preston 28.

Proof we’re the bigger club. What’s Burnley and Blackburn’s in comparison? 

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25 minutes ago, gonzo said:

I just don’t get the attraction of our place for a big jolly. 

It must shit for an away fan. There’s never any trains and you have to walk past the ground to the nearest and only pub. 

Preston on the other hand is a belting away...

Once the trains are back running away fans can drink in manchester, Bolton, or Chorley, step off the train at 2.55 and be in their seat by kick off, is there any other ground so close to a train station in the country? 

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32 minutes ago, wakey said:

1889-2018 average crowds; Bolton 16,947, Preston 13,128. Seasons in top flight; Bolton 73 Preston 46

Bit unfair as we've had more seasons in the top flight. Better one;

1889-1961 Bolton 18,654 Preston 15,340. Seasons in top flight; Bolton 55 Preston 46

Still a bit unfair. Have to go back a way to even things up;

1889-1925 Bolton 14,145 Preston 10,193. Seasons in top flight, Bolton 28 Preston 28.

 

4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Proof we’re the bigger club. What’s Burnley and Blackburn’s in comparison? 

Decent bit of research. Not a great deal of difference in it really. 

Don't think you'd find many North End fans who wouldn't mind admitting that you's are a slightly bigger club.

How do we both stack up against Burnley and the Plastics?....if you can be assed working it out like.

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3 minutes ago, PrestonCha said:

How do we both stack up against Burnley and the Plastics?....if you can be assed working it out like.

Burrrrrrnley and Blackburrrrrn above.

Wigan 8,344

Blackpool 10,924

Oldham 9,715

Huddersfield (why not) 13,472

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12 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Once the trains are back running away fans can drink in manchester, Bolton, or Chorley, step off the train at 2.55 and be in their seat by kick off, is there any other ground so close to a train station in the country? 

Prob Brighton, just

You don't need to cross a road, either

But youre right

London aways are great and we will often drink 30 minutes from the ground

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2 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

Where's all the pubs around Deepdale???

Predominantly a Muslim area now, Deepdale...so pubs struggled getting punters in on non-matchdays. Which obviously isn't sustainable. 

St Greg's and Deepdale labour clubs are still going though. Both a 2 minute walk from the ground.

Think only 2 remain on Meadow Street as well now.

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Steejay said:

None now but town’s walking distance. Moorbrook is a great pub, quite close and breaks up the walk

Last time we went in a town centre beer garden then let all the daft lads walk out, immediately get kettled all the way to the ground while we availed ourselves of the off licence around half way point of the walk. 

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Attendances are a decent way of judging the old "how big a club are we" given it kind of builds in success and fan base.

Founder members are a bit disadvantaged as attendances for the first decade or so were pretty shite.

For anyone interested, here's our average attendances and rank split into 3 periods - the first decade or so, up to abolition of maximum wage and since.

1889-1899 average 7,000, rank 9th

1900-1961 ave 21,168 rank 15th

1962-2018 15,090 rank 29th

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9 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

I would imagine it's a similar  story at a lot of northern football grounds, i mean the ones that haven't relocated to a new stadium.

Not at Wigan. They got scousers instead.

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20 minutes ago, PrestonCha said:

Predominantly a Muslim area now, Deepdale...so pubs struggled getting punters in on non-matchdays. Which obviously isn't sustainable. 

St Greg's and Deepdale labour clubs are still going though. Both a 2 minute walk from the ground.

Think only 2 remain on Meadow Street as well now.

 

 

 

Went in St Greg’s last season with PNE fan, was like going back to the 70s. Enjoyed it though. 

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