gonzo Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Within one hour of my house I have Fleetwood, Blackpool, Preston, Blackburn, Burnley, Bolton, Manchester United, Manchester City, Wigan Athletic, Bury, Rochdale, Oldham, Liverpool, Everton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorwichLad Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, kent_white said: I'm just pleased that someone from Norwich has been able to come on and show us how we all know fuck all about the football culture in the town we've all lived in for the majority of our lives. I think if you untwisted your knickers and reread my posts then none of them are really about Bolton attendances, I was talking only about why Norwich attendances are strong. Perhaps rather than get offended about things I haven't said you could take a bit of hope in the fact that if Norwich can go from 14,000 to 25,000 whilst stuck mostly in the Championship just by making a real effort to reengage with their local community then that could someday happen to Bolton too once you've achieved a bit of stability in the boardroom which I'm sure will happen at some stage. Remember that we've had the same owners for 23 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter HomerJay Posted February 17, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 17, 2019 26 minutes ago, gonzo said: Within one hour of my house I have Fleetwood, Blackpool, Preston, Blackburn, Burnley, Bolton, Manchester United, Manchester City, Wigan Athletic, Bury, Rochdale, Oldham, Liverpool, Everton. Accington Stanley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorwichLad Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, gonzo said: Within one hour of my house I have Fleetwood, Blackpool, Preston, Blackburn, Burnley, Bolton, Manchester United, Manchester City, Wigan Athletic, Bury, Rochdale, Oldham, Liverpool, Everton. And there's 7.174 million people in the North West of England. So I'm not sure why driving distance is really relevant..... why would somebody born in Bolton go and become a Blackpool or Fleetwood fan? I think if you had stable ownership and a man with a plan you could grow your attendances again.... and that's all I'm really saying. Or you can just be defeatist and resign yourself to never having any success again ever again because Man Utd, a club with a declining membership and lots of empty seats this season, are round the corner... pretty sure they were in the same place when you were getting 26,000 a week. But I had a butchers on here after the reverse fixture and some geezer was saying that Bolton are a bigger club than Norwich, so what is it? Whatever... just wanted to point out that we had Preston away and Bolton away within 4 days really, when a couple of people started saying our away support is poor.... I've not slagged off your support at any stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, HomerJay said: Accington Stanley? Who are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted February 17, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, NorwichLad said: And there's 7.174 million people in the North West of England. So I'm not sure why driving distance is really relevant..... why would somebody born in Bolton go and become a Blackpool or Fleetwood fan? I think if you had stable ownership and a man with a plan you could grow your attendances again.... and that's all I'm really saying. Or you can just be defeatist and resign yourself to never having any success again ever again because Man Utd, a club with a declining membership and lots of empty seats this season, are round the corner... pretty sure they were in the same place when you were getting 26,000 a week. But I had a butchers on here after the reverse fixture and some geezer was saying that Bolton are a bigger club than Norwich, so what is it? Whatever... just wanted to point out that we had Preston away and Bolton away within 4 days really, when a couple of people started saying our away support is poor.... I've not slagged off your support at any stage. You’ve not answered the really important question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Do you like us sexwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorwichLad Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 48 minutes ago, MickyD said: It's a good job Bolton isn't within driving distance of a dozen or so other clubs all vying for the supporters. Is it really any better for Midlands clubs? Villa, Birmingham, Wolves, West Brom, Coventry, Derby, Walsall, Leicester, Nottingham Forest, Notts County, Burton Albion, Kettering, Kidderminster, arguably Stoke, Northampton, MK Dons too. If you are trying to say that a lot of Bolton kids grew up supporting Man Utd and Man City then I'm afraid its only Bolton adults to blame, my dad would genuinely have dosed in parrafin and set alight to a Man Utd top if I'd ever brought one home with me as a kid. And in hindsight I'll always be grateful for that. I'm not saying geography isn't a factor in your attendance struggles, I'm just saying that it isn't the only significant factor in Norwich's good home attendances. Should take some heart in that instead of being so defeatist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorwichLad Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Spider said: You’ve not answered the really important question Got no problem whatsoever with the pedestrianization of Norwich City Centre as I don't drive. In fact I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrener Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, gonzo said: Within one hour of my house I have Fleetwood, Blackpool, Preston, Blackburn, Burnley, Bolton, Manchester United, Manchester City, Wigan Athletic, Bury, Rochdale, Oldham, Liverpool, Everton. If you work out the average crowd of them teams it would come to about 300,000 Norwich and Ipswich would be about 45,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, NorwichLad said: I think if you untwisted your knickers and reread my posts then none of them are really about Bolton attendances, I was talking only about why Norwich attendances are strong. Perhaps rather than get offended about things I haven't said you could take a bit of hope in the fact that if Norwich can go from 14,000 to 25,000 whilst stuck mostly in the Championship just by making a real effort to reengage with their local community then that could someday happen to Bolton too once you've achieved a bit of stability in the boardroom which I'm sure will happen at some stage. Remember that we've had the same owners for 23 years. I think you're labouring under the misapprehension that any of us give a shite about Norwich City - until the next time that we play them. Which might be some considerable time. And I don't wear knickers I wear a g-string. The gussett of which is clean as I sit to wipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorwichLad Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said: Do you like us sexwise? Not really any that take my fancy to be honest, look more like a rugby league side. Ask me again after a few pints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakey Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 I like NorwichLad. He's raised some interesting points, and approached it in a reasonable and courteous manner. My favorite is this bit ... 4 minutes ago, NorwichLad said: arguably Stoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorwichLad Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, darrener said: If you work out the average crowd of them teams it would come to about 300,000 Norwich and Ipswich would be about 45,000 But the population of the North West is 7.1 million, and the population of Norfolk and Suffolk is 1.5 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorwichLad Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, kent_white said: I think you're labouring under the misapprehension that any of us give a shite about Norwich City - until the next time that we play them. Which might be some considerable time. And I don't wear knickers I wear a g-string. The gussett of which is clean as I sit to wipe. At least I can support you for two games next season, and possibly for an entire season if you find yourself fighting for promotion with the scum. Cheers and bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, NorwichLad said: Not really any that take my fancy to be honest, look more like a rugby league side. Ask me again after a few pints. I'm staggered. You sexist swine. We're all libtard snowflakes here so deaf ears... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrener Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, NorwichLad said: But the population of the North West is 7.1 million, and the population of Norfolk and Suffolk is 1.5 million. Fair play, I actually thought your turn out was decent yesterday and like someone said earlier the best team we've played this season even taking into account how shit were. If it had finished 9-0 I don't think we could have complained. But back to topic living in the shadow of two of the biggest clubs in the world doesn't help our cause and seeing young kids walking away from the ground yesterday after another diabolical performance you wonder how the hell we are going to keep them interested. Free admission wouldn't be enough IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrener Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, NorwichLad said: Not really any that take my fancy to be honest, look more like a rugby league side. Ask me again after a few pints. I'd be struggling myself with that lot and I'm 52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 E's (or mandy - down wit da yoof3) or whizz, or actual threats of bodily harm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 To persuade young uns to keep coming, not the ladies team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, NorwichLad said: I sympathise but it wasn't really about why Bolton attendances are so low (understandable, similar with Blackpool in recent years etc). I was just making the point that our strong attendances aren't just down to a heavy dose of luck geographically.... obviously that is a part of it, but that tells only a fraction of the story.... we were getting 16,000 when we were 3rd in the Premier League under Mike Walker with the likes of Ruel Fox, Chris Sutton, Jeremy Goss, Bryan Gunn and Mark Goss in the team. Sutton was the countries top scorer that year and we flogged him to Blackburn for a British record transfer fee. We still had that countywide catchment area then.... we've genuinely and literally grown as a club over that time, and it wasn't an accident, that's all I'm saying. Just saying that there is nothing else to do in Norfolk and we're lucky not to be next to Man Utd isn't a sufficient explanation. But I like Bolton and hope you sort yourselves out, fond memories of Jay Jay Okocha from when I was a kid! Interesting debate and insight, a good read. I've noticed in maybe the last 5 years that Norwich have overtaken Ipswich for crowds, and not just because of on field fortunes, so clearly there has to be something else behind it. Ipswich were always the ones with guaranteed 22k+ crowds and now they are similar to us for ticket sales if not attendances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, NorwichLad said: But the population of the North West is 7.1 million, and the population of Norfolk and Suffolk is 1.5 million. And the northwest have, on average ~320k weekly fans, compared to the ~45k in the Norfolk and suffolk areas. Popoulation : 5x larger Crowds : 7x larger Your point ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, MancWanderer said: Fair play to Norwich I say. Gone about things the right way from managing the club to generating decent support to playing good football We can’t always hide behind being so close to so many clubs but it is a big factor that can’t be denied. What we haven’t done well is make a trip to the match a great experience That's the best understatement I've read for a while! Put another way, we gave the job to parky then made him unsackable. Result...no adults never mind kids want to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Unless groomed and plied with whizz (amphetamine sulphate) or E's (MDMA, ecstasy)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Groomed in a non-sexual way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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