leadfrog1 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 At this stage they should just play a bunch of the U23 and let them have a run out, surely can't do worse than the senior squad. Given Connells performance, i wonder if we have anymore hidden gems the current management are too rubbish to spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marple whites Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Yep agree - play the kids - tell them to go out and enjoy themselves - they can do no worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 8 hours ago, leadfrog1 said: At this stage they should just play a bunch of the U23 and let them have a run out, surely can't do worse than the senior squad. Given Connells performance, i wonder if we have anymore hidden gems the current management are too rubbish to spot. We need to stop perpetuating this fantasy for Connell's sake if nothing else. He hasn't given any world beating performances and he is a young lad with what looks to be a decent touch and a bit of movement about him but he is even more lightweight than Clough was at his age and in the 5 appearances (not starts) he's made in the first team he's been injured once. It will be brilliant if he comes through and we can build a team around him and he is with us for the rest of his career but he is miles off that yet and isn't ready to shoulder half that responsibility, a few bad games next season and the boo boys will be all over him and he'll be out the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I know they keep saying Connor Hall isn't ready/up to it, but he seriously can't be any worse than how Donaldson has performed. I'd be accepting relegation right now and putting at least 5 U-23's in the first eleven to give them experience but with no pressure of getting a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, Traf said: I know they keep saying Connor Hall isn't ready/up to it, but he seriously can't be any worse than how Donaldson has performed. I'd be accepting relegation right now and putting at least 5 U-23's in the first eleven to give them experience but with no pressure of getting a result. Absolutely agree. If being self sufficient is the future then we start now. I'd include Vela in that - as a proper graduate who has made a success of his time here (generally speaking) then he could be the leader of that pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I don't think they'd get any stick from the fans if they go beat every week either. The current team lose most games and don't really get much abuse. Might as well start integrating them into the squad (assuming, of course, we still have a fixture list to complete) and give them some familiar faces (David Lee etc) on the bench as coaches. If we can't afford to sack parky, just put him on gardening leave and pay his contract up on a month to month basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I was really only talking about Connell and the bit the lad had put saying "Given Connells performance". In principle having the younger players in and around the first team is definitely the right idea but as insane as it sounds (and is) I'm still holding out hope of a 6 match unbeaten streak that leaves us safe and with nothing to play for in the last 2 games of the season. If we go down then it becomes more about expectations, do we put 5 u-23s in the first team and let them gain experience but maybe meaning a longer stay in L1 or do we get some tried and tested journeymen in to push for an immediate return? Obvs we might get an immediate return with the youngsters but it's probably less likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eavesy Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 56 minutes ago, Kane57 said: Absolutely agree. If being self sufficient is the future then we start now. I'd include Vela in that - as a proper graduate who has made a success of his time here (generally speaking) then he could be the leader of that pack. Vela is out of contract at the end of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 12 hours ago, Mr Grey said: I will stick to the Joey Holts, Now that is potentially the shittest beer on the planet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Sweep said: Now that is potentially the shittest beer on the planet Correct, utter dog shit drank by pissed up old men sorry mr grey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 If we go 'bump' and game is off, who is still travelling ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted March 19, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ani said: If we go 'bump' and game is off, who is still travelling ? Get involved with the Brexit march, should be good fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadfrog1 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 hours ago, ErnestTurnip said: I was really only talking about Connell and the bit the lad had put saying "Given Connells performance". In principle having the younger players in and around the first team is definitely the right idea but as insane as it sounds (and is) I'm still holding out hope of a 6 match unbeaten streak that leaves us safe and with nothing to play for in the last 2 games of the season. If we go down then it becomes more about expectations, do we put 5 u-23s in the first team and let them gain experience but maybe meaning a longer stay in L1 or do we get some tried and tested journeymen in to push for an immediate return? Obvs we might get an immediate return with the youngsters but it's probably less likely. The more youngsters coming through, provided they're of sufficient quality, the less money we have to spend on players in L1 (even free agents don't come that cheap for a club with basically no money), there's no reason that we can't have both "journeymen" and youngsters coming through, even if it's just to make up the numbers (which i don't think it would be). Most of the U23s are now 21/22, they're either good enough now or never will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LodgeMorrWhite Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Given the potential we may be placed under a transfer embargo I think it would be prudent to have a look at some of the u23s in the first team sooner rather than later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrener Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 6 hours ago, ErnestTurnip said: We need to stop perpetuating this fantasy for Connell's sake if nothing else. He hasn't given any world beating performances and he is a young lad with what looks to be a decent touch and a bit of movement about him but he is even more lightweight than Clough was at his age and in the 5 appearances (not starts) he's made in the first team he's been injured once. It will be brilliant if he comes through and we can build a team around him and he is with us for the rest of his career but he is miles off that yet and isn't ready to shoulder half that responsibility, a few bad games next season and the boo boys will be all over him and he'll be out the door. Connell looks a better player than anything else we have at the moment but this manager wouldn't be the best person to bring in any younger players, he's terrible. If we replace him between now and the end of the season then I think we might see a few more plus ozzy given a bit of game time. Plus Ernest I'm not sure if you were at Wigan on Saturday but if you were surely you can't possibly believe we are going to put any run together with that shambles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Aye I was there and there were enough positives on the field for me to think we could have a right good go at it and climb our way to safety. Actually the last bit isn't true, think the highlight of the day for me was watching someone standing supping his pint in the stand while he was casually talking to a steward and then also Derren Browning a copper into thinking it was ok as well - was the most skilful thing I saw all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Eavesy said: Vela is out of contract at the end of the season It was based on retaining him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 9 hours ago, ErnestTurnip said: We need to stop perpetuating this fantasy for Connell's sake if nothing else. He hasn't given any world beating performances and he is a young lad with what looks to be a decent touch and a bit of movement about him but he is even more lightweight than Clough was at his age and in the 5 appearances (not starts) he's made in the first team he's been injured once. It will be brilliant if he comes through and we can build a team around him and he is with us for the rest of his career but he is miles off that yet and isn't ready to shoulder half that responsibility, a few bad games next season and the boo boys will be all over him and he'll be out the door. Agree with that; he is skilful with lots of confidence but don't think he is ready to make such an influence like Jason McAteer did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackleywhite Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 12 hours ago, Sweep said: Now that is potentially the shittest beer on the planet It is now it's the same price as every other fuckers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 23 hours ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Correct, utter dog shit drank by pissed up old men sorry mr grey And folk from Prestwich &Whitefield. Worst beer known to man but ex in laws raved about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 People used to drink it because it was cheap. That said, there's not really any such thing as bad cask ale, it's all down to making sure it's looked after properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Sam Smith's pubs beg to differ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
embankment Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Joey Holts bitter ; when looked after is an brilliant brew. The White Lion (westhoughton) and The Old Monkey ( Manchester) Both good examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 20, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 20, 2019 1 hour ago, embankment said: Joey Holts bitter ; when looked after is an brilliant brew. The White Lion (westhoughton) and The Old Monkey ( Manchester) Both good examples. Bang on. When I worked in Manchester, visited the old monkey from time to time. Plenty of throughput, and quality. Always busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter victor meldrew Posted March 20, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 20, 2019 3 hours ago, embankment said: Joey Holts bitter ; when looked after is an brilliant brew. The White Lion (westhoughton) and The Old Monkey ( Manchester) Both good examples. yeh right. also the white lion is the slaughtered lamb of westhoughton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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