dusan nikolic Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, paulhanley said: Aye. Elliott had a decent career before arriving at Bolton. My memory is that Phil Neal signed him in Summer 86 with some of the proceeds of getting to Wembley v Bristol City. Was very average for us before going off to Bury - and inevitably scoring against us. Yep , just looked his stats up , 1 in 3 league goals for Preston and Walsall , became nearly 1 in 5 for us during 86/87.in hindsight do you think we would have fared better with Caldwell and Oghani up top together that season , or was it a case of a poor team just not being good enough. Edited May 13, 2019 by dusan nikolic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said: Yep , just looked his stats up , 1 in 3 league goals for Preston and Walsall , became nearly 1 in 5 for us during 86/87.in hindsight do you think we would have fared better with Caldwell and Oghani up top together that season , or was it a case of a poor team just not being good enough. The goals definitely dried up, especially after Christmas. Phil Neal's answer to ongoing problems seemed to be to keep it tight. We conceded far fewer goals than the rest of the bottom 8 or 9 that year and were involved in lots of 0-0 draws. In previous years we'd been quite free scoring and conceded a good few. The latter formula got us to points totals in the 50s and safety between 84 and 86, the former dragged us down those few places in to the danger zone in 87! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted May 13, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 13, 2019 I presume this was the season Chester away was played in the snow at Sealand Road? Freezing that day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 13, 2019 Moderators Share Posted May 13, 2019 2 hours ago, paulhanley said: The goals definitely dried up, especially after Christmas. Phil Neal's answer to ongoing problems seemed to be to keep it tight. We conceded far fewer goals than the rest of the bottom 8 or 9 that year and were involved in lots of 0-0 draws. In previous years we'd been quite free scoring and conceded a good few. The latter formula got us to points totals in the 50s and safety between 84 and 86, the former dragged us down those few places in to the danger zone in 87! Where did we finish when oghani Caldwell and Chandler all got 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 8 hours ago, Casino said: Where did we finish when oghani Caldwell and Chandler all got 20 Think that 84/5. Was about 16th or 17th I think. It was the year we never picked up a single point away from home until about Feb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Biggish Dave said: I presume this was the season Chester away was played in the snow at Sealand Road? Freezing that day Blimey that's one I'd forgotten about. Mass snowball fight on the terrace behind the goal. It was a big old ground that place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted May 14, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Duck Egg said: Blimey that's one I'd forgotten about. Mass snowball fight on the terrace behind the goal. It was a big old ground that place When was the snowball massacre of Oldham. My guess is 76-77 or 77-78. Bolton fans spent the half-time break building an arsenal of icy missiles. When the teams came out for the second half the Oldham keeper must have wondered why he was getting applauded as he took his place between the sticks. He even waved back! His wave was the cue for about a thousand ice balls being launched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 19 hours ago, Biggish Dave said: I presume this was the season Chester away was played in the snow at Sealand Road? Freezing that day It certainly was and I have that Chester away game. I'd not thought of posting it because it finished as a goalless draw. Unbelievable conditions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Back to 1985/6 with this post. March 1986: Lincoln 1 Bolton 1 at Sincil Bank. Phil Neal was in his fourth month in charge and scored a screamer ... but was then jointly to blame with Dave Felgate for the equaliser. Seems to be a decent Wanderers following for a night match and we're playing in the sky blue third kit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusan nikolic Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, paulhanley said: Back to 1985/6 with this post. March 1986: Lincoln 1 Bolton 1 at Sincil Bank. Phil Neal was in his fourth month in charge and scored a screamer ... but was then jointly to blame with Dave Felgate for the equaliser. Seems to be a decent Wanderers following for a night match and we're playing in the sky blue third kit! Dave sounds rather subdued on this one.someone in the background asks if it "was a Neal own goal". Better defending expected from a man with 50 England caps , mind you he seems to be blaming Felgate anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Just now, dusan nikolic said: Dave sounds rather subdued on this one.someone in the background asks if it "was a Neal own goal". Better defending expected from a man with 50 England caps , mind you he seems to be blaming Felgate anyway. Aye - Dave might sound subdued because the sound is so poor. It was odd with Phil Neal .... the more he played the more we seemed to drag him down to our level! 🙂 He was, of course, very much getting on in footballing terms. But he still managed to carry on playing until about 1989! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusan nikolic Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, paulhanley said: Aye - Dave might sound subdued because the sound is so poor. It was odd with Phil Neal .... the more he played the more we seemed to drag him down to our level! 🙂 He was, of course, very much getting on in footballing terms. But he still managed to carry on playing until about 1989! Yes it must have been hard for him to adjust when you think of the quality he had been playing with 6 months before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 23 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said: Yes it must have been hard for him to adjust when you think of the quality he had been playing with 6 months before. We soon got him in to aimlessly hoofing it down field. Scored a few long rangers early in his days with us, to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) Back to 1987/88 and Division 4. A gloomy November Saturday afternoon and Bolton on the fringes of the automatic promotion places. Cambridge United are the visitors to Burnden with a then unknown keeper in goal by the name of Keith Branagan. A see-saw encounter ended 2-2 and Dave Higson doesn't hide his disappointment at full-time. I probably won't be able to post a vid again this week but there'll be more next. Edited May 15, 2019 by paulhanley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusan nikolic Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, paulhanley said: Back to 1987/88 and Division 4. A gloomy November Saturday afternoon and Bolton on the fringes of the automatic promotion places. Cambridge United are the visitors to Burnden with a then unknown keeper in goal by the name of Keith Branagan. A see-saw encounter ended 2-2 and Dave Higson doesn't hide his disappointment at full-time. I probably won't be able to post a vid again this week but there'll be more next. Good post Paul thanks , I noticed Dave mentioned a hard frost , didn't we have under soil heating then anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said: Good post Paul thanks , I noticed Dave mentioned a hard frost , didn't we have under soil heating then anyway? Yeah - I think we'd had the undersoil since about 1980, one of the very few in the 80s to have such a facility! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 On 14/05/2019 at 07:03, Duck Egg said: Blimey that's one I'd forgotten about. Mass snowball fight on the terrace behind the goal. It was a big old ground that place I was driving a few of us to that game in my Vauxhall chevette. Absolute blizzard on the way, had to give up and turn back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 A big win from the 1985/6 season - Bolton 5 Cardiff 0. Phil Neal gets the first just before half time and then the second half is full of seriously comical Cardiff defending that allows Joyce, Came, Oghani and Caldwell to get on the scoresheet. This is March 86, we're edging our way to safety in Div 3 and on the Freight Rover run that ends at Wembley. Phil Neal still in his very early days as manager. If you listen carefully at full time you can hear something that is very redolent of Burnden Park in the 80s. The moment when a slightly nasally copper gets hold of the microphone and says over the tannoy: "This is a message for the Cardiff City supporters. Will you please remain were you aware. You will be escorted from the ground". Occasionally this was followed with "for your own safety" - drawing cheers from the Manny Road North! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusan nikolic Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Thanks Paul , my God on these videos I thought our defending was sometimes suspect , theirs was ridiculous. this win and the Newport 4-0 stick in my memory from that season , me and my dad were buzzing when the score came through on the videprinter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaydan Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Brilliant! All those goals are scrappy as fuck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 32 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said: Thanks Paul , my God on these videos I thought our defending was sometimes suspect , theirs was ridiculous. this win and the Newport 4-0 stick in my memory from that season , me and my dad were buzzing when the score came through on the videprinter. They got relegated that season. It can be no surprise when you seem them farting about in their six yard box like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) I'm on a roll with 5-0 home wins. Yesterday Cardiff, today Carlisle. The Fourth Division season! A comprehensive win in which Nicky Brookman stars, there's a hopeless own-goal and Carlisle and up with an outfield player in goal, long before sub goalies were allowed. At the time it was a much needed win because we were slipping much nearer mid-table than the top end of the league. Peter Barnes gets injured seconds in to his debut! Edited May 20, 2019 by paulhanley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusan nikolic Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, paulhanley said: I'm on a roll with 5-0 home wins. Yesterday Cardiff, today Carlisle. The Fourth Division season! A comprehensive win in which Nicky Brookman stars, there's a hopeless own-goal and Carlisle and up with an outfield player in goal, long before sub goalies were allowed. At the time it was a much needed win because we were slipping much nearer mid-table than the top end of the league. Peter Barnes gets injured seconds in to his debut! Very good win , Nicky Brookman was on fire . Didn't Peter Barnes end his time at Bolton by throwing his shirt towards Phil Neal after getting subbed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said: Very good win , Nicky Brookman was on fire . Didn't Peter Barnes end his time at Bolton by throwing his shirt towards Phil Neal after getting subbed? That rings a bell. Did he come on loan to us twice though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusan nikolic Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, paulhanley said: That rings a bell. Did he come on loan to us twice though? I think from memory it was the following season , the 4-0 away at Sheffield United rings a bell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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