Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 3, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: association? involvement more like make no mistake, they were a team You know this how? Prefer to leave it to the legal bods myself. Not that they necessarily cover themselves in glory the way much of it is played out in public before a trial has even been set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 3, 2020 Moderators Share Posted July 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: You know this how? Prefer to leave it to the legal bods myself. Not that they necessarily cover themselves in glory the way much of it is played out in public before a trial has even been set up. it was all in the filthy rich documentary on netflix and the interviews with their victims but ok, let's keep an open mind ps: OJ Simpson did it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 3, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: it was all in the filthy rich documentary on netflix and the interviews with their victims but ok, let's keep an open mind ps: OJ Simpson did it Trial by tv? Therein is a huge problem; we had the issue of Tommy Robinson potentially affecting a trial outcome by broadcasting outside court, but film makers can put stuff out in the public domain without any real control. Hardly going to make trials easier when potentially creating legal loopholes for defence teams to jump through. Not seen the documentary, not interested to be honest, but the makers will surely have made money from it. A bit distasteful for me, get the cunts investigated and brought to book first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 3, 2020 Moderators Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Trial by tv? Therein is a huge problem; we had the issue of Tommy Robinson potentially affecting a trial outcome by broadcasting outside court, but film makers can put stuff out in the public domain without any real control. Hardly going to make trials easier when potentially creating legal loopholes for defence teams to jump through. Not seen the documentary, not interested to be honest, but the makers will surely have made money from it. A bit distasteful for me, get the cunts investigated and brought to book first. when you look at what Epstein was found guilty of, and how close they were, and all that, you'd be hard pressed to think she she wasn't involved, but if you've not seen it or aren't intereted, then it's a moot point anyway, I'm sure those that arrested her have more to go off than a netflix documentary what about Jimmy Saville? he never went to trial do you think he's guilty, or not? it's someone else's word against someone who can't defend himself, because he's dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjhb Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Wonder if Dershowitz will be defending Maxwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 3, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 3, 2020 We may know JS, was guilty, but that's not the same as getting a conviction in a court of law. Yes, you're quite right, prosecutors will have additional information, and I'm sure there is a strong case for saying others are involved. But that's not the point: running with loads of information in the public domain can make even forming a jury difficult as there's difficulty in ensuring a fair trial. This gives defence teams more wriggle room, which gives bad people more chance of getting away with crimes. I'm sure you will have criticised TR actions outside court in case it affected the outcome. It's a similar situation, though it seems more acceptable in the states for evidence to be discussed in public even by legal teams before trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 3, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, jmjhb said: Wonder if Dershowitz will be defending Maxwell Perhaps watch last night's newsnight on iPlayer. He was interviewed quite deeply about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: We may know JS, was guilty, but that's not the same as getting a conviction in a court of law. Yes, you're quite right, prosecutors will have additional information, and I'm sure there is a strong case for saying others are involved. But that's not the point: running with loads of information in the public domain can make even forming a jury difficult as there's difficulty in ensuring a fair trial. This gives defence teams more wriggle room, which gives bad people more chance of getting away with crimes. I'm sure you will have criticised TR actions outside court in case it affected the outcome. It's a similar situation, though it seems more acceptable in the states for evidence to be discussed in public even by legal teams before trials. The approach to that kind of thing over there is ridiculous. Harvey Weinstein's defence lawyer wrote an op-ed in Newsweek, days before the jury were due to begin deliberations, encouraging the jurors to "do what they know is right" . Edited July 3, 2020 by Lt. Aldo Raine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 3, 2020 Moderators Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: We may know JS, was guilty, but that's not the same as getting a conviction in a court of law. Yes, you're quite right, prosecutors will have additional information, and I'm sure there is a strong case for saying others are involved. But that's not the point: running with loads of information in the public domain can make even forming a jury difficult as there's difficulty in ensuring a fair trial. This gives defence teams more wriggle room, which gives bad people more chance of getting away with crimes. I'm sure you will have criticised TR actions outside court in case it affected the outcome. It's a similar situation, though it seems more acceptable in the states for evidence to be discussed in public even by legal teams before trials. yeah, because he was breaking reporting restrictions and jepodising the outcome of an ongoing trial, despite knowing that he shoudln't, just to try and boost his profile and relevance that's not really the same at all IMO these interviews and docs, we don't even know they wil be used as evidence or indeed what the evidence is that has been used to make an arrest and more often than not, you need these public interviews and testimonies to get the ball rolling and give other people the confidence to come forward too somtimes though, when you see what's presented, and the likes of Prince Andrew attemtping to defend himself, and it's hard to honestly say give them the benefit of the doubt but I'm not on the jury, so it doesn't matter Edited July 3, 2020 by ZicoKelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Fuckin ell I struggle keeping it a secret if I’ve had a cheeky key before I come home from the pub nevermind having an island full of lolitas getting Rodgered by presidents and billionaires on the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 3, 2020 Moderators Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: The approach to that kind of thing over there is ridiculous. Harvey Weinstein's defence lawyer wrote an op-ed in Newsweek, days before the jury were due to begin deliberations, encouraging the jurors to "do what they know is right" . and then there was the time Trump took out a full page ad in the New York Times demanding the death penalty be reinstated, just before the trial of (innocent) Central Park 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawshawbooth Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Watched the netflix filthy rich last night ,apart from the people he openly stole from didnt point out where he got his dosh from. He must of been a fucking brilliant investor to turn up with that sort of dosh from the 70"s What links a sad story like this to our raygun rape gangs is the coppers in Palm Beach new all about what was going on here but cause most of these girls were trailer park trash recruited by their own kind for $200 a wank they turned a blind eye and gave it to the FBI' Clinton and his mates are all over this , if Ms Maxwell lives until christmas i willl be amazed !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 4, 2020 Moderators Share Posted July 4, 2020 Donald's son Eric made himself look a bit of a cock here https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8485479/Eric-Trump-trolled-tweeting-photo-Ghislaine-Maxwell-Chelsea-Clintons-wedding.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted July 4, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted July 4, 2020 Documentary tonight on Ch5 The Duke and Duchess of Disaster about Andrew and Fergie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 8 hours ago, ZicoKelly said: Donald's son Eric made himself look a bit of a cock here https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8485479/Eric-Trump-trolled-tweeting-photo-Ghislaine-Maxwell-Chelsea-Clintons-wedding.html Eric is not the sharpest knife in the box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 4, 2020 Moderators Share Posted July 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said: Eric is not the sharpest knife in the box Must get it from his mum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnden Pies Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said: Eric is not the sharpest knife in the box Unlike his dad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Burnden Pies said: Unlike his dad! like Father like son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Rudy Posted July 5, 2020 Members Share Posted July 5, 2020 Watched the first episode of the Epstein doc You're telling me Trump wasn’t involved in getting his weasel greased? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted July 7, 2020 Members Share Posted July 7, 2020 Hope they’re live-streaming Maxwells cell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 He’s still alive according to Some people on Facebook. (Because they haven’t seen footage of his funeral) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted July 8, 2020 Members Share Posted July 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, royal white said: He’s still alive according to Some people on Facebook. (Because they haven’t seen footage of his funeral) You sound like you doubt this? I was in the 7-11 this morning and Elvis confirmed that he is still alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted July 8, 2020 Members Share Posted July 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, royal white said: He’s still alive according to Some people on Facebook. (Because they haven’t seen footage of his funeral) On an island with 2Pac, Michael Jackson, The Real Paul McCartney and Bin Laden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted July 8, 2020 Members Share Posted July 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rudy said: On an island with 2Pac, Michael Jackson, The Real Paul McCartney and Bin Laden I hope Bin Laden is pinned down and Jacko and Eppo don't have any lubricant with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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