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3 hours ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Crowd was wank end of 

Why end of?  I forget what the crowds have been like at other grounds where the U21s are playing, where they've been in administration for months and when the game wasnt certain to go ahead until about 24 hours before.  And where defeat wasnt the issue, just how many the home team would lose by.  Remind me what crowds turned up at similar games at any of the 92 clubs on a hot bank holiday weekend when any number of attractions competed?

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3 hours ago, Piemon said:

Crowd was the most disappointing aspect of today.

Sunshine and just £20 to stand In solidarity for a couple of hours with fellow whites and just watch a game of football.We couldn’t even do that!! 

Who knows what this week brings for the club as a whole? Could be one of the last times a home match happens. Does BWFC mean as much to people as they make out?

COYWM 

 

 

Sunshine doesnt bring people to the stadium.  It encourages them to do family things or barbeques.  The sun kept the attendance down today, I was there but it was so hot in the East Stand I couldnt wait to leave before my bald head got burned.

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2 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Why end of?  I forget what the crowds have been like at other grounds where the U21s are playing, where they've been in administration for months and when the game wasnt certain to go ahead until about 24 hours before.  And where defeat wasnt the issue, just how many the home team would lose by.  Remind me what crowds turned up at similar games at any of the 92 clubs on a hot bank holiday weekend when any number of attractions competed?

Well said, and the blackburn fan who quoted earlier, take a look at your crowd today 11k home fans against a former Premier league team who brought 1800 fans. Tinpot 

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6 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Why end of?  I forget what the crowds have been like at other grounds where the U21s are playing, where they've been in administration for months and when the game wasnt certain to go ahead until about 24 hours before.  And where defeat wasnt the issue, just how many the home team would lose by.  Remind me what crowds turned up at similar games at any of the 92 clubs on a hot bank holiday weekend when any number of attractions competed?

You've also got to remember many of the 11k crowds at the back of last season where nowhere near... STs skew every game in terms of tickets sold v through the turnstiles. 

 

Edit... We ain't got no season ticket holder's skewing shit at present! 

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13 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Why end of?  I forget what the crowds have been like at other grounds where the U21s are playing, where they've been in administration for months and when the game wasnt certain to go ahead until about 24 hours before.  And where defeat wasnt the issue, just how many the home team would lose by.  Remind me what crowds turned up at similar games at any of the 92 clubs on a hot bank holiday weekend when any number of attractions competed?

When Wolves were wank and getting relegated to Div 4 in 1986  they got 3,200 on at home to Bolton for a Saturday afternoon league match in February. That's how many will watch a garbage Wolves team, we've got about the same number

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For me, the crowd was about right,  No certainty a week out the game was going ahead, playing a so called big team and a nice weekend - they were 1/14 for a reason - we realistically were never going to get a result.

lets be honest, there is only so much people can afford to go and watch a team of youngsters get beat.  Yes, they did their all - and really proud of them, but people find other things to do with their cash and lets be honest, if you have a family, it is throwing good money away at the moment.

hats off to all that turned up and supported (including me and junior), but this needs sorting asap.

 

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Following up to Gonzo's comment earlier, one of the lads I go home games with only knew game was on because I told him on phone yesterday, and his mate didn't know at all until this afternoon. Neither go online, amazing how much you miss out on when you're not.

I have just an afternoon or evening off Twitter and I've usually missed something critical to do with club.

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9 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Why end of?  I forget what the crowds have been like at other grounds where the U21s are playing, where they've been in administration for months and when the game wasnt certain to go ahead until about 24 hours before.  And where defeat wasnt the issue, just how many the home team would lose by.  Remind me what crowds turned up at similar games at any of the 92 clubs on a hot bank holiday weekend when any number of attractions competed?

You know what I don’t normally retract on my words but on reflection it’s probably about right, think it was the sorry look of empty seats what pissed me off 

let’s hope fans will return for Bury if all sorted 

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9 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Its irrelevant, its like discussing what the crowd for an U23 match will be.  Nobody does, because it doesnt matter.  This glorified U23 comp doesnt matter either, crowd could be 10 or 500, its not a 1st team game, for us or them.

it was a comment back to another poster if that’s ok?

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11 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

You know what I don’t normally retract on my words but on reflection it’s probably about right, think it was the sorry look of empty seats what pissed me off 

let’s hope fans will return for Bury if all sorted 

Maybe, although it’s on sky so we can blame them for a lower attendance 

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15 minutes ago, Matty said:

Maybe, although it’s on sky so we can blame them for a lower attendance 

Does anyone know how much we get from Sky in League One for a televised game ? Just wondering if it's significantly more than the revenue we would lose from supporters giving the game a miss and watching it in the pub. Not just ticket revenue, but buying a pint and a pie etc.

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4 minutes ago, Nordkurve said:

Does anyone know how much we get from Sky in League One for a televised game ? Just wondering if it's significantly more than the revenue we would lose from supporters giving the game a miss and watching it in the pub. Not just ticket revenue, but buying a pint and a pie etc.

It was £30k for the home team last season, I think.

That amounts to 1,500 paying adults.

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9 hours ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

When Wolves were wank and getting relegated to Div 4 in 1986  they got 3,200 on at home to Bolton for a Saturday afternoon league match in February. That's how many will watch a garbage Wolves team, we've got about the same number

There are lots of crap attendance figures you can cite from the 80s. It was a different game with most scared off by the vile druggy thugs.

I applaud every one of your attendees yesterday and understand those who stayed away. It was painful watching Argyle dying in front of you. Hopefully there is a medic about to rescue you and you don't land yourselves a profiteering charlatan for 7 years of austerity.

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15 hours ago, barrycowdrill said:

Yep this is becoming very very difficult. 

En route to the ground and saw empty buses which in previous years were almost full 

car park behind the North stand half empty and remembering when there were parking space wars 

half the ground now shut when it used be to a hive of activity 

the concourse almost desolate when I used to love the hustle bustle and noise 

Watching a group of lads in white who through no fault of their own shouldn’t be anywhere near a first team game

no anticipation, very little hope and resigned to getting beat. Heavily 

the whole club is a shell. Dying a slow, painful death. Almost begging to give up. 

The hardy few still turning out, doing their bit, hoping and praying for a better day. I just hope it comes and comes quick 

An old fella passed me just before kick off. Must’ve been about 85. One of those whose probably watched us for about 60 years. Hearing aid, walking stick, the lot. Everything appeared to be a struggle. He had an away shirt on and on the back he had printed ‘just believe’ 

had a wry smile to myself. Quite a poignant moment. And I just thought, well if he is. We all should. 

But it’s becoming increasingly difficult 

 

 

Keith from GL. He's 80.

 

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2 hours ago, enzo gambaro said:

It was £30k for the home team last season, I think.

That amounts to 1,500 paying adults.

Cheers for the info. 30 grand is nothing. I think we would be better off not having Sky there, but we can't decide that.

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13 hours ago, stevieb said:

You've also got to remember many of the 11k crowds at the back of last season where nowhere near... STs skew every game in terms of tickets sold v through the turnstiles. 

 

Edit... We ain't got no season ticket holder's skewing shit at present! 

That's a great point.  For one, the crowd figures are now 100% genuine, and its been about 20 years since that's been the case, apart from cup games.  Secondly, loads of us rolled up out of habit because we had a season ticket at plenty of games in the last few (terrible) years.  If we'd had to go to the trouble of arranging and paying for a ticket loads wouldnt have bothered.  And that's not just the case here, its at every ground from Wigan to Arsenal, crowds are artificial for league games and the cup games suffer because its seen as a well earned break.

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2 minutes ago, Casino said:

If the takeover isn't done, I predict an on pitch protest

Game stopped etcetera, etcetara

Heard talk along those lines at the game yesterday.Fans have just had enough even though it could hurt the club ie fines I really can't blame them if it happens

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2 hours ago, Nordkurve said:

Cheers for the info. 30 grand is nothing. I think we would be better off not having Sky there, but we can't decide that.

Don’t forget that we get a central distribution from the EFL as part of the TV rights deal though so it works out much higher than 30 grand a game when you average it out over the season. 

Missed the game yesterday, down in London for the rugby cup finals (stupid enough to have pre-booked months ago in case Leigh got to the final). Bumped in to more than a dozen BWFC fans that would have otherwise been to the game, plus knew of a good few others besides - out of our group of what would have been 11 season ticket holders, 3 were at the UniBolt and 8 were at Wembley.

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