Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 24, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted August 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: The U.K. was covered in Forrest, just because we didn’t know the impact when we cut it all down, m doesn’t abstain us from playing our part now The UK and other developed nations could easily turn profitable farming land back into Forrest to provide our own ‘lungs’ and take a hit financially / economically We can’t ask developing nations to hold off economically for everyone’s benefit Why don’t we just turn all our farmland back into Forrest if we are that worried about it? It's already started. Plans for millions of trees to be planted. Doesn't have to mean an economic hit either. Our small island isn't significant enough to achieve the desired effect though, especially given the scale of destruction elsewhere. We are however playing our part by discovering the error of our ways, and developing alternatives so others don't need to follow suit. This is bigger than a nation feeling an entitlement to develop economically; it's how they develop that's important. Us continuing to buy imported cheap meat, isn't the way forward, if it means huge scale deforestation. In essence these nations have to hold off the current path, for everyone's benefit, including their own, or there won't be anything left to develop. If it means paying more for, and eating less meat then so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: It's already started. Plans for millions of trees to be planted. Doesn't have to mean an economic hit either. Our small island isn't significant enough to achieve the desired effect though, especially given the scale of destruction elsewhere. We are however playing our part by discovering the error of our ways, and developing alternatives so others don't need to follow suit. This is bigger than a nation feeling an entitlement to develop economically; it's how they develop that's important. Us continuing to buy imported cheap meat, isn't the way forward, if it means huge scale deforestation. In essence these nations have to hold off the current path, for everyone's benefit, including their own, or there won't be anything left to develop. If it means paying more for, and eating less meat then so be it. If Brazil with a population of circa 200m, represents circa 20% of global oxygen production, vs a global population level of 7bn. Then It’s safe to say they currently, more than cover their own share. It’s down to the rest of us to do our bit As an island of 70m, what % of global oxygen does our country produce? If it’s even 1% I’d be surprised Edited August 24, 2019 by birch-chorley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 7, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2019 On 24/08/2019 at 20:24, birch-chorley said: If Brazil with a population of circa 200m, represents circa 20% of global oxygen production, vs a global population level of 7bn. Then It’s safe to say they currently, more than cover their own share. It’s down to the rest of us to do our bit As an island of 70m, what % of global oxygen does our country produce? If it’s even 1% I’d be surprised Climate. Some places are more suitable to a dense vegetation. Places around the equator don't have seasons in the way we do. Just can't divide land up in terms of area. It also brings me back to my initial point. Arguing that because a lot of other places cocked up, doesn't somehow make it ok for others too. Can argue about rights all you want,but it's no use if you can't breathe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 55 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Climate. Some places are more suitable to a dense vegetation. Places around the equator don't have seasons in the way we do. Just can't divide land up in terms of area. It also brings me back to my initial point. Arguing that because a lot of other places cocked up, doesn't somehow make it ok for others too. Can argue about rights all you want,but it's no use if you can't breathe. It’s their land, they can do what they want with it If we want it saving then the easiest way to influence them is to pay them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: It’s their land, they can do what they want with it If we want it saving then the easiest way to influence them is to pay them We tried that - they turned it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 36 minutes ago, kent_white said: We tried that - they turned it down. Did we? How much did we offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 7, 2019 Moderators Share Posted September 7, 2019 Not enough, obvs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted September 7, 2019 Moderators Share Posted September 7, 2019 It's not just the trees, 50% of plants and animals live in the rainforests, 10% in the amazon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 18 hours ago, birch-chorley said: Did we? How much did we offer? $22 million. Paltry given the circumstances - but was turned down anyway, mainly due to one man's hurt feelings. Another prick running a huge country that's fundamental to whether we can combat climate change sadly. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-latin-america-49479470 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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