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Well you are the grand master on every subject known to modern man so it must be, because you say so

Lucky bastards not having any snowflakes. We are inundated with the fuckers 

When I watch these spaced out cock ends crawling round the floor in front of traffic and gluing themselves to planes it just makes me want to set fire to a big barrel of hairspray.  They’re no di

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This lawn action is just another example of a handful of XR actions that are ridiculous and  counter-productive. Which is a shame because Cambridge Universtity and Barclays continued investment in fossil-fuels is shameful. It's a shite way to get your message across and it appears to just be lost. 

Much more power in these kinds of actions. 
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/climate-activists-protest-british-museum-bp-1773738

 

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14 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

This lawn action is just another example of a handful of XR actions that are ridiculous and  counter-productive. Which is a shame because Cambridge Universtity and Barclays continued investment in fossil-fuels is shameful. It's a shite way to get your message across and it appears to just be lost. 

Much more power in these kinds of actions. 
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/climate-activists-protest-british-museum-bp-1773738

 

Agree mate and it’s these that get all the media attention because that’s how our press works. Probably a lot of really food stuff going on but these sort of things are mindless 

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Organised protests which do not interfere with peoples everyday lives or cost taxpayers money - fair enough.

I'd probably still have the compulsion to catapult petrified dog turds at them but if they are not affecting any other poor fucker and only getting the attention of the media, I suspect that their message(s) would have a better chance of resonating with the general public.

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4 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Are you talking about these guys or protests in general?

These guys

But I think that there are people around who will protest at anything and this group have probably been infiltrated by them.

It is not serving the message,  in my view.

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6 hours ago, boltondiver said:

These guys

But I think that there are people around who will protest at anything and this group have probably been infiltrated by them.

It is not serving the message,  in my view.

Never a truer word typed on here. Just look at the 'Socialist Worker' (isn't that a fucking oxymoron) placards at most of these so called protests.

Them and matted hair hippies who tour around the country in shagged out and polluting diesel charabancs - generally sponging off the state and making a fucking nuisance of themselves.

As Davros would say - 'exterminate'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFyXqxZzLFk

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8 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Never a truer word typed on here. Just look at the 'Socialist Worker' (isn't that a fucking oxymoron) placards at most of these so called protests.

Them and matted hair hippies who tour around the country in shagged out and polluting diesel charabancs - generally sponging off the state and making a fucking nuisance of themselves.

As Davros would say - 'exterminate'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFyXqxZzLFk

The sooner we stop equating climate change activism with socialism the better. 

Everybody's problem - whether you're a card carrying communist or a fascist!

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7 minutes ago, kent_white said:

The sooner we stop equating climate change activism with socialism the better. 

Everybody's problem - whether you're a card carrying communist or a fascist!

I think that’s what Bolty was saying, I certainly am.

 

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There's a lot of what we take for granted these days that came about because people went on a protest. I've usually steered clear of it all but couldn't sit back and do nothing since the IPCC report. The thing is with any protest is it's just a collective of different organisations coming together for the same cause to raise awareness. Most people I've met during climate change protests do all sorts of really positive work on top of their jobs or as part their work. It's mind boggling how easily integillent people buy into stereotypes- whether it's climate activists being jobless hippies/socialists or anyone who wants tougher immigration controls being a bigot. You see people on here, on both sides, so easily infiltrated by it all who have clearly never made a proper effort to see for themsleves what is actually going on. 

It's a shame when actions such as the tube or these numpties on the lawn tarnish a movement that is actually doing a whole lot of good. 

We will have a lot of these protestors to thank if we do by some miracle manage to limit global warming to 1.5 degrees. Ultimately, I think it depends on how soon we can make environmental destrution a criminal defence and if we're willing to move away from consumerism. There's a big case coming up later in the year against Shell and if succeeds then it could be a game changer. 

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1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

 

. Ultimately, I think it depends on how soon we can make environmental destrution a criminal defence and if we're willing to move away from consumerism.

Slip of the key there I guess - offence?

But does that include the (often localised) environmental destruction required to generate the raw materials for green technology?

There's nothing that comes free (and green tech is a "consumer" after all) until we suss out nuclear fusion.

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23 hours ago, SatanGreavsie said:

Slip of the key there I guess - offence?

But does that include the (often localised) environmental destruction required to generate the raw materials for green technology?

There's nothing that comes free (and green tech is a "consumer" after all) until we suss out nuclear fusion.

Slip of the key mate aye, nice one. 

You're right- there are some materials in green technology that aren't great for our environment. But the science is pretty clear that a rapid switch to renewables is what's needed. Therefore the courts would be able to make a clear distinction to using materials for renewables which will reduce emissions and fossil fuel companies which are polluting continuously from the moment of extraction. The likes of Shell and BP will go down in history for their role in distorting the science, lobbying against climate policy and continuing to extract. I just hope we get the laws changed sooner rather than later. 

There are also some greener and innovative solutions coming out to dangerous raw materials such as lithium for electric car batteries. https://curiosity.com/topics/4-up-and-coming-batteries-that-could-overtake-lithium-ion-curiosity/

wind, solar and tidal have incredible capacity to provide us with surplus energy whilst also making it cheaper and localised. There has been a mini solar revolution happening in some of the poorest parts of Bangladesh that is allowing community ownership and surplus energy for some of the poorest people in the world. 

Problem is we're being told that we still need gas and oil- which is bullshit. But as soon as anyone starts talking about targetting the companies responsible for the greenwash- you're suddenly a socialist ;)

 

 

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4 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Slip of the key mate aye, nice one. 

You're right- there are some materials in green technology that aren't great for our environment. But the science is pretty clear that a rapid switch to renewables is what's needed. Therefore the courts would be able to make a clear distinction to using materials for renewables which will reduce emissions and fossil fuel companies which are polluting continuously from the moment of extraction. The likes of Shell and BP will go down in history for their role in distorting the science, lobbying against climate policy and continuing to extract. I just hope we get the laws changed sooner rather than later. 

There are also some greener and innovative solutions coming out to dangerous raw materials such as lithium for electric car batteries. https://curiosity.com/topics/4-up-and-coming-batteries-that-could-overtake-lithium-ion-curiosity/

wind, solar and tidal have incredible capacity to provide us with surplus energy whilst also making it cheaper and localised. There has been a mini solar revolution happening in some of the poorest parts of Bangladesh that is allowing community ownership and surplus energy for some of the poorest people in the world. 

Problem is we're being told that we still need gas and oil- which is bullshit. But as soon as anyone starts talking about targetting the companies responsible for the greenwash- you're suddenly a socialist ;)

 

 

The site flibbertigibbet strikes again. FFS, less is more son. Less is more.

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30 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Agree, long term I think it's the correct decision. It does make it important that investment into green technology and alternative projects of benefit to the economy happens though.

I don't buy the argument that other nations will expand their airports and swallow up growth, as they too have targets to meet. However it's important we don't just rest on our laurels though.

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So, because the Govt have promised greener procedures and the new third runway doesn't fall in line with the promises made Friends of the Earth have taken it to the High Court to get it booted out; successfully.

It's a good job the Govt don't make too many promises that they end up not keeping, isn't it?

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23 minutes ago, MickyD said:

So, because the Govt have promised greener procedures and the new third runway doesn't fall in line with the promises made Friends of the Earth have taken it to the High Court to get it booted out; successfully.

It's a good job the Govt don't make too many promises that they end up not keeping, isn't it?

Bit more to it. It's been described as unlawful. They could have made the case whilst considering how to meet the Paris agreement but failed to do so.

Campaigners now looking to do the same over road building schemes. Given the ban on new fuel cars by 2035, that may be more difficult to argue, although the claim is the roads policy is from the last century, before the Paris agreement was signed. Time will tell.

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19 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Bit more to it. It's been described as unlawful. They could have made the case whilst considering how to meet the Paris agreement but failed to do so.

Campaigners now looking to do the same over road building schemes. Given the ban on new fuel cars by 2035, that may be more difficult to argue, although the claim is the roads policy is from the last century, before the Paris agreement was signed. Time will tell.

I know. I was being flippant. 

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16 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

https://maldives.net.mv/35056/maldives-to-open-four-new-airports-in-2020/
 

All that fuss about the 3rd runway at Heathrow. Aren’t the Maldives threatened with extinction when the waters rise? 
 

Read some of the comments below. One claims they bury their rubbish and top it off with dredged sand as a means of reclamation!

 

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