Fanzone

[MickyD]

Sluffy, don't flatter yourself that I can be arsed trolling you. I picked up on a point you made, commented and moved on. It's what makes this medium work.

Chris custard, likewise, I don't doubt your issues but I made the observation that a once independent auditor could then later be head hunted onto the board thus becoming unavailable in future to serve as the independent auditor.

[Chris Custodiet]

42 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Sluffy, don't flatter yourself that I can be arsed trolling you. I picked up on a point you made, commented and moved on. It's what makes this medium work.

Chris custard, likewise, I don't doubt your issues but I made the observation that a once independent auditor could then later be head hunted onto the board thus becoming unavailable in future to serve as the independent auditor.

If as Sluffy says, you were previously a  senior fire officer you plainly carried out vitally important work but  might not have realised that the words you used in this instance were entirely inappropriate to the circumstance. You probably didn't mean it but the actual position did need to be made absolutely clear.

Edited October 3, 2019 by Chris Custodiet

[Casino]

one point that this chat has just brought to mind

at the inception of the truist, werent they criticised because rigby had sat on boards with phil g

so, he may well have the ear of certain high ranking individuals in the new leadership

[Sluffy]

1 minute ago, Casino said:

one point that this chat has just brought to mind

at the inception of the truist, werent they criticised because rigby had sat on boards with phil g

so, he may well have the ear of certain high ranking individuals in the new leadership

I believe you are thinking of Richard Hurst?

[Chris Custodiet]

8 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

I believe you are thinking of Richard Hurst?

I think you are right again, Sluffy. Your memory ain't too bad is it?

[Sluffy]

2 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Sluffy, don't flatter yourself that I can be arsed trolling you. I picked up on a point you made, commented and moved on. It's what makes this medium work.

Chris custard, likewise, I don't doubt your issues but I made the observation that a once independent auditor could then later be head hunted onto the board thus becoming unavailable in future to serve as the independent auditor.

Fair enough, it's just that you seem to pick up on the points I make more than most (apart from my usual camp followers of course).

I guess we just are in someway opposites, which surprises me somewhat with us both sharing a public service ethos - or at least been immersed in it career wise for many years apiece.

As for your comments to Chris I think you've got the wrong end of the stick somehow?

The independent Auditor for the July 18 accounts was former ST Board Member Mike Egan who seemed to have left the Board at the November 2017 AGM but as continually been shown as a serving Board Member on the ST's official website for the last TWO YEARS!

I think Chris rightly questions how he could be seen to be 'independent' to audit their accounts up to July 2018 having been a Board Member for part of the financial year in question (August to November 2017)?

I don't doubt Mr Egan's honesty and integrity in the least however and that I believe was the point Chris was emphasising to you in his replies.

[Steejay]

Lemon Party on the horizon...

[Sluffy]

7 minutes ago, Chris Custodiet said:

I think you are right again, Sluffy. Your memory ain't too bad is it?

I used to have an extremely good memory but old age is catching up with it these days!

Time and tide and all that!

[MickyD]

35 minutes ago, Steejay said:

Lemon Party on the horizon...

For two.

[tomski]

Some real obsession with the trust here. It’s the only place I ever hear about the ST and I include themselves in it. Very dull

[Steejay]

33 minutes ago, MickyD said:

For two.

Blow up doll with tank top would do a job.

[RoadRunnerFan]

2 hours ago, Sluffy said:

Fair enough, it's just that you seem to pick up on the points I make more than most (apart from my usual camp followers of course).

Ooh Sluffy you are awful, but I like you. 

[Kane57]

Sluffy - TL:DR

Edited October 3, 2019 by Kane57

[Casino]

4 hours ago, Sluffy said:

I believe you are thinking of Richard Hurst?

I probably am

Is he still involved

In fact is roger the dodger still involved

[Sluffy]

11 minutes ago, Casino said:

I probably am

Is he still involved

In fact is roger the dodger still involved

I think you most certain were - Hurst defends himself against links to Phil Gartside.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/14231621.new-supporters-trust-chairman-this-is-absolutely-not-for-personal-gain/

Mr Hurst has since sadly passed away -

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/17373697.tributes-paid-to-business-visionary-richard-hurst-who-has-died-aged-73/

I've no idea if Allanson is somewhere in the background at the ST or not.

I doubt it though.

It does seem that his solicitor offices have accordingly now been finally closed down by his professional body -

Decision - Closure

Reasons/basis

An Adjudicator is satisfied that Mr Allanson has failed to comply with the SRA Principles 2011, the SRA Accounts Rules 2011 and the SRA Practice Framework Rules 2011 being rules made under sections 31 and 32 of the Solicitors Act (paragraph 1(1)(c) of Schedule 1 to the Solicitors Act).

Intervening agents

John Owen of Gordons LLP, 1 New Augustus Street, Bradford, BD1 5LL has been appointed as the intervening agent.

https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/solicitor-check/132976/

And this from Gordons -

What has happened to Allansons LLP?

Allansons LLP of 1^st Floor, Queens Buildings, Central Street, Bolton, Lancashire, BL1 2AB,

658 Ormskirk Road, Pemberton, Wigan, WN5 8AQ and

44 Clarendon Road, Watford, Hertfordshire, WD17 1DR (‘Allansons’),

has been closed down by the Solicitors Regulation Authority (‘SRA’). This is called an intervention.  The intervention took place on 24 May 2019.

Gordons LLP of 1 New Augustus Street, Bradford, BD1 5LL have been appointed to help the SRA with the closure. They are called the SRA’s Intervention Agent.

What does this mean?

If you were a client, Allansons can no longer act for you. You will need to find another lawyer to act. Gordons are not acting for you.

https://www.gordonsllp.com/allansons-llp-sra-intervention/

Did Iles ever do his article on Mr Allanson, the one time ST golden boy spokesman who set up the company to take ownership of the club on behalf of the ST?

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11612819

 

There is also quite a strange follow up to Allanson's if anybody is interested - make of it what you will???

https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/scam-alerts/2019/sep/allansons-llp-litigation-funder/

[Sluffy]

9 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

😲 yawn yawn fucking yawn! 

Scientia potential est.

[Chris Custodiet]

59 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

I think you most certain were - Hurst defends himself against links to Phil Gartside.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/14231621.new-supporters-trust-chairman-this-is-absolutely-not-for-personal-gain/

Mr Hurst has since sadly passed away -

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/17373697.tributes-paid-to-business-visionary-richard-hurst-who-has-died-aged-73/

I've no idea if Allanson is somewhere in the background at the ST or not.

I doubt it though.

It does seem that his solicitor offices have accordingly now been finally closed down by his professional body -

Decision - Closure

Reasons/basis

An Adjudicator is satisfied that Mr Allanson has failed to comply with the SRA Principles 2011, the SRA Accounts Rules 2011 and the SRA Practice Framework Rules 2011 being rules made under sections 31 and 32 of the Solicitors Act (paragraph 1(1)(c) of Schedule 1 to the Solicitors Act).

Intervening agents

John Owen of Gordons LLP, 1 New Augustus Street, Bradford, BD1 5LL has been appointed as the intervening agent.

https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/solicitor-check/132976/

And this from Gordons -

What has happened to Allansons LLP?

Allansons LLP of 1^st Floor, Queens Buildings, Central Street, Bolton, Lancashire, BL1 2AB,

658 Ormskirk Road, Pemberton, Wigan, WN5 8AQ and

44 Clarendon Road, Watford, Hertfordshire, WD17 1DR (‘Allansons’),

has been closed down by the Solicitors Regulation Authority (‘SRA’). This is called an intervention.  The intervention took place on 24 May 2019.

Gordons LLP of 1 New Augustus Street, Bradford, BD1 5LL have been appointed to help the SRA with the closure. They are called the SRA’s Intervention Agent.

What does this mean?

If you were a client, Allansons can no longer act for you. You will need to find another lawyer to act. Gordons are not acting for you.

https://www.gordonsllp.com/allansons-llp-sra-intervention/

Did Iles ever do his article on Mr Allanson, the one time ST golden boy spokesman who set up the company to take ownership of the club on behalf of the ST?

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11612819

 

There is also quite a strange follow up to Allanson's if anybody is interested - make of it what you will???

https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/scam-alerts/2019/sep/allansons-llp-litigation-funder/

Depressing, ain't it Sluffy, reading some of the comments from the Richard Heads on WW? Still not quite as bad as the Beeno. I wonder if any one of them used to contribute to the Beeno as Riggins44 or Riggermortis ,winner of the 2016 Bonehead of the Year award.

Bonehead of the Year 2016

Good morning, boys. We have a special award to make this morning and some very special guests that I would like to welcome to Lowbrow Academy.

Firstly I would like to introduce Mr Anderson-Shelter who is chairman of our governors and his very good friend and fellow governor, Mr Codswallop.

Mr Anderson-Shelter and Mr Codswallop joined the Board of Governors in March this year following the retirement of our principle benefactor, Mr Davies.

Mr Davies spent more than £175million in supporting the academy since 1999 and in appreciation our governors kindly presented him with a Poundland Gift Voucher to spend on anything he wanted. I am told that Mr Davies decided to spend it on a new trowel to use on his Isle of Man allotment and I hope that it has lasted the summer.

A number of members of staff have left this year to continue their careers elsewhere and we wish them all well especially our former Games Teacher, Mr Lemon. We welcome his replacement, Mr Parkinson, who has been doing very well with the school football team after some early disappointing results against Cheltenham Ladies College and Blackpool Jobseekers Club.

But it is in financial management that our new governors are showing their true mettle. Monthly losses have been slashed to £800,000; the audited accounts have been promised soon and are presently only nine months late and new accountants, Messrs Tickit, Blottit and Scarper, will soon be brought in to replace Dolittles.

You may not have heard of TBS but they have some splendidly refurbished offices in the town thanks to the foresight and generosity of Council Leader, Mr Minor.

Unfortunately I have some sad news to report. Mr Pennyfeather has recently been admitted for treatment in the Asylum for Broken Arithmetic Teachers.

However ABAT has a very good record so we hope to be able to welcome Mr Pennyfeather back in the not too distant future. In the meantime Miss Pickles from the Domestic Science department will undertake Mr Pennyfeather’s duties.

Now I would like to welcome the Chief Football Writer from the Bolton News, Mr Marc (I’m no business expert) IIes to present the BN 2016 Bonehead of the Year Award. Competition for this award is always intense but this year it has been fiercely contested and the judges have had a very difficult job picking a winner from so many deserving candidates. However one candidate stood out for consistent idiocy and stupidity throughout the year and I can now announce that this year’s worthy winner is Riggermortis.

Please show your appreciation for our invited guests and winner of the BN 2016 Bonehead of the Year, Riggermortis.

 

Edited October 3, 2019 by Chris Custodiet

[Burndens Bogs]

Not many folk are interested in all the financial bollocks anymore.Now that we've been taken over maybe people just want to enjoy some football & football related banter.

Or is that too much to ask?

[Chris Custodiet]

24 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

Scientia potential est.

Nil desparate Dan.

Edited October 3, 2019 by Chris Custodiet

[Mounts Kipper]

16 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

Not many folk are interested in all the financial bollocks anymore.Now that we've been taken over maybe people just want to enjoy some football & football related banter.

Or is that too much to ask?

Pretty sure hardly anyone reads what they post anymore. I suspect just each other. 

Edited October 3, 2019 by Mounts Kipper

[Burndens Bogs]

12 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Pretty sure hardly anyone reads what they post anymore. I suspect just each other. 

Yeh i know what you mean.

"You are indeed correct once again Chris"

"Hold on a minute Sluffy, i've got even more BWFC financial guesses and assumptions i'd like to share"

" I, for one am all ears Chris, these peasants are too thick to comprehend"

Bore off ffs.

Edited October 3, 2019 by Burndens Bogs

[Sluffy]

1 hour ago, Burndens Bogs said:

Not many folk are interested in all the financial bollocks anymore.Now that we've been taken over maybe people just want to enjoy some football & football related banter.

Or is that too much to ask?

Not at all!

There's hundreds of threads on here, only one or two of them are about finances and that's where we keep financial discussions to, that's not unreasonable is it?

You do realise that what's been talked about above has nothing at all to do with finance don't you?

It's been about the ST's involvement with the Fanzone , which I believe is on topic.

In fact quite a bit of what I've posted has been in direct response to Casino's questions about the ST.

If he's happy with the thread then I don't really see what the problem you seem to have about it is?

Edited October 3, 2019 by Sluffy
Grammar errors

[Sluffy]

43 minutes ago, Chris Custodiet said:

Depressing, ain't it Sluffy, reading some of the comments from the Richard Heads on WW? Still not quite as bad as the Beeno. I wonder if any one of them used to contribute to the Beeno as Riggins44 or Riggermortis ,winner of the 2016 Bonehead of the Year award.

I'm aware of who Riggins44 was, an extremely odd bloke I found who seems to desperately seek attention through confrontation and abuse on social media and who has been banned countless times on Twitter to my knowledge. He was for a time an acolyte of Bower, Smurf, etc, under his many user names one of which Stan Bartolome had been mentioned a time or two on here iirc.

He's one of those who adds #FBPE to his twitter name and rages about Brexit all the time - or at least he used to - probably still does

Each to their own and all that but not someone I'd particularly like to have a pint with.

He probably thinks the same about me too!

[RoadRunnerFan]

8 hours ago, Chris Custodiet said:

 

Please show your appreciation for our invited guests and winner of the BN 2016 Bonehead of the Year, Riggermortis.

 

Big fan of the rhythm guitar is he? 

[Chris Custodiet]

1 hour ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

Big fan of the rhythm guitar is he? 

Don't know what he's into but he's as dumb as a door knob. Even dumber than Riggins44. Here are another couple of Lowbrow sketches. I know you'll love 'em:

‘’Ah, Riggins, there you are. Have you finished the homework I set for you last week?’’

‘’Yes, Sir. I left it on your desk, Sir.’’

‘’Well I haven’t seen it. Why would that be?’’

‘’I don’t know, Sir. Maybe somebody stole it, Sir’’

‘’Now who would want to steal your homework, Riggins?’’

‘’Davies, Sir’’

‘’Why would Davies want to do that, Riggins’’

‘’I don’t know, Sir’’

‘’I don’t want any more of that nonsense, Riggins. The question I asked was, if Bolton Wanderers lost £9million in 2013/14, how did it manage to pay the players monthly wages? So what was your answer, Riggins?’’

‘’I can’t remember, Sir.’’

‘’You can’t remember, Riggins? We can’t expect you to pass GCSE Business Studies if you forget things so quickly, can we Riggins?’’

‘’I don’t know, Sir’’

‘’Can you remember the school motto, Riggins?’’

‘’Oh yes, Sir. Nil desperate dan, Sir.’’

‘’Not quite, Riggins. Its nil desperandum. Its Latin and it means don’t despair.

We don’t teach Latin at Lowbrow Academy but do you know what despair means, Riggins?’’

‘’No, Sir’’

XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

‘’OK boys, you can go now. Riggins, would you stay behind please.’’

‘’Who Sir, me Sir, I haven’t done anything Sir.  It were Davies, Sir.’’

‘’I want to speak to you about your homework, Riggins. You seem to be getting rather confused.

I first asked you if, as reported, BW was losing £1m per month in 2014/15 how do you think the monthly wages got paid. Do you remember your answer Riggins?’’

‘’Not exactly, Sir.’’

‘’Well I do. It was something of a confusion, and you seem to be easily confused, but you came to the conclusion that Davies must have put in £12m in that year.

Do you know why that was not a very good answer, Riggins?’’

‘’No, Sir.’’

‘’Well, Riggins. There are two reasons:

1.     We haven’t seen any accounts for 2014/15, have we, so we don’t know that the £1m per month was accurate

2.     We haven’t seen any accounts for 2014/15 so we don’t know if anyone else put any money in.

Do you understand Riggins?’’

‘’I think so, Sir’’

‘’So I then asked you about the 2013/14 season and you said you’d given your answer but couldn’t remember what it was.

But you hadn’t given an answer had you, Riggins? Did you not understand that the 2013/14 season was not the same as the 2014/15 season?’’

‘’I don’t know, Sir.’’

‘’Now I’d like to ask you about something else, Riggins.

You keep accusing Davies of things that aren’t true. Why are you doing that Riggins?’’

‘’Well I don’t like him, Sir. None of us like him, Sir. He doesn’t play with us, Sir.’’

‘’Has he been giving you his pocket money, Riggins?’’

‘’No, Sir.’’

‘’Are you sure, Riggins?’’

‘’He’s not given us much, Sir.’’

‘’How much has he given you, Riggins?’’

‘’I don’t know, Sir.’’

‘’Can you not remember, Riggins?’’

‘’No, Sir.’’

‘’Have you been calling his father names, Riggins?’’

‘’No, Sir. Not me Sir?’’

‘’Have you been calling him a tax dodger, Riggins?’’

‘’Well he is, Sir. My Dad  says it stands to reason, Sir. His Dad lives in the Isle of Man, Sir, and he’s got this thingy somewhere, and he’s, and he’s and he’s..’’

‘’Just a moment, Riggins. Are you sure this is what your father told you?’’

‘’Oh yes’ Sir.’’

‘’Is your father an expert on taxes?’’

‘’Oh yes, Sir. My Dad knows everything, Sir.’’

‘’Remind me what your father does for a living, Riggins.’’

‘’He’s a taxi driver, Sir.’’

‘’I see. Thank you, Riggins. I’ll have a word with Mr Handysides and see if we can get him to take you for woodwork. I don’t think Business Studies is going to be the best subject for you.’’

Edited October 4, 2019 by Chris Custodiet