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When all's said and done, it's a 2/3 hour window before every match for everyone concerned to have fun/make some money.

I think the Supporters Trust is a very dubious organisation and only represents a minority of the club's fans. They certainly don't represent me or any fans I know.

They are desperate to claim any sort of victory to validate their existence. This "partnership" is all they've managed since they started hoovering up tenners 3 years ago.

The Fazone was a bit sterile for my liking, but harmless enough and I honestly think they can't win here, as they want to cater to kids, families, tea drinkers and pisspots all at once.

 

 

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Fanzone ideal for bus wankers 

not enough time to get over to Scott’s/hotel & get served and it’s next near our turnstile 

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9 minutes ago, Chris Custodiet said:

Loads of stuff here that suggests ST governance is in need of improvement, Sluffy, but is there any point in listing it all.Their first annual return stated that they had an officer (the Treasurer) who wasn't a member of their committtee. I can't say I've come across that idea very often.

I think the truth is that the ST has always struggled to find individuals with something to offer and a willingess to spend their valuable time with folk with very little business sense. And that is 'only the beginning' of reasons not to get involved with them.

It's been quite apparent to me from very early on that the wrong people got involved, took charge and are more or less all still there (or thereabouts).

Clearly there was overwhelming support and goodwill from countless Wanderers supporters from the off, many offering their professional expertise, skills and knowledge to make the ST a success but in reality what happened was the founders kept tight control of it and seemingly only brining on board with them people they knew or those with the same narrow mindset as themselves, to the exclusion of everyone else.

Their agenda and actions since has turned this tidal wave of support for them to virtually universal indifference, well within their four years of existence.  That's not me simply being anti the ST but just saying it as it is.

It would appear to me that they haven't set much importance on the administration and running of their public society in line with their own written constitution and that's why I now question if they are even constituted as a legal entity anymore?

Anyway I've made my point and will leave it at that.

It will however be interesting to see who covers the costs for running the event, as apparently it ran at a loss previously and the match day attendances have reduced by a few thousand since then.

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1 hour ago, Sluffy said:

It's been quite apparent to me from very early on that the wrong people got involved, took charge and are more or less all still there (or thereabouts).

Clearly there was overwhelming support and goodwill from countless Wanderers supporters from the off, many offering their professional expertise, skills and knowledge to make the ST a success but in reality what happened was the founders kept tight control of it and seemingly only brining on board with them people they knew or those with the same narrow mindset as themselves, to the exclusion of everyone else.

Their agenda and actions since has turned this tidal wave of support for them to virtually universal indifference, well within their four years of existence.  That's not me simply being anti the ST but just saying it as it is.

It would appear to me that they haven't set much importance on the administration and running of their public society in line with their own written constitution and that's why I now question if they are even constituted as a legal entity anymore?

Anyway I've made my point and will leave it at that.

It will however be interesting to see who covers the costs for running the event, as apparently it ran at a loss previously and the match day attendances have reduced by a few thousand since then.

I'm far from convinced that everyone has noticed the ST's shortcomings. Their attitude to everything has been scarcely different to Marc Iles (or any of FIBS) and he still seems to have his following, even on here. The Holdsworth/Anderson takeover was never reported with any sensible objectivity or competence and still hasn't been. If its up to Marc Iles or the ST, I doubt it ever will be.

Holdsworth and Anderson could no more afford to pay BWFC's debts than they could walk across Morecambe Bay when the tide was in and that's not what either of them ever undertook to do. Iles, the ST and two members of the House of Lords seemed  to believe that one of them had.

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Sluffy, don't flatter yourself that I can be arsed trolling you. I picked up on a point you made, commented and moved on. It's what makes this medium work.

Chris custard, likewise, I don't doubt your issues but I made the observation that a once independent auditor could then later be head hunted onto the board thus becoming unavailable in future to serve as the independent auditor.

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42 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Sluffy, don't flatter yourself that I can be arsed trolling you. I picked up on a point you made, commented and moved on. It's what makes this medium work.

Chris custard, likewise, I don't doubt your issues but I made the observation that a once independent auditor could then later be head hunted onto the board thus becoming unavailable in future to serve as the independent auditor.

If as Sluffy says, you were previously a  senior fire officer you plainly carried out vitally important work but  might not have realised that the words you used in this instance were entirely inappropriate to the circumstance. You probably didn't mean it but the actual position did need to be made absolutely clear.

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one point that this chat has just brought to mind

at the inception of the truist, werent they criticised because rigby had sat on boards with phil g

so, he may well have the ear of certain high ranking individuals in the new leadership

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1 minute ago, Casino said:

one point that this chat has just brought to mind

at the inception of the truist, werent they criticised because rigby had sat on boards with phil g

so, he may well have the ear of certain high ranking individuals in the new leadership

I believe you are thinking of Richard Hurst?

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8 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

I believe you are thinking of Richard Hurst?

I think you are right again, Sluffy. Your memory ain't too bad is it?

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2 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Sluffy, don't flatter yourself that I can be arsed trolling you. I picked up on a point you made, commented and moved on. It's what makes this medium work.

Chris custard, likewise, I don't doubt your issues but I made the observation that a once independent auditor could then later be head hunted onto the board thus becoming unavailable in future to serve as the independent auditor.

Fair enough, it's just that you seem to pick up on the points I make more than most (apart from my usual camp followers of course).

I guess we just are in someway opposites, which surprises me somewhat with us both sharing a public service ethos - or at least been immersed in it career wise for many years apiece.

As for your comments to Chris I think you've got the wrong end of the stick somehow?

The independent Auditor for the July 18 accounts was former ST Board Member Mike Egan who seemed to have left the Board at the November 2017 AGM but as continually been shown as a serving Board Member on the ST's official website for the last TWO YEARS!

I think Chris rightly questions how he could be seen to be 'independent' to audit their accounts up to July 2018 having been a Board Member for part of the financial year in question (August to November 2017)?

I don't doubt Mr Egan's honesty and integrity in the least however and that I believe was the point Chris was emphasising to you in his replies.

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7 minutes ago, Chris Custodiet said:

I think you are right again, Sluffy. Your memory ain't too bad is it?

I used to have an extremely good memory but old age is catching up with it these days!

Time and tide and all that!

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35 minutes ago, Steejay said:

Lemon Party on the horizon...

For two.

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Some real obsession with the trust here. It’s the only place I ever hear about the ST and I include themselves in it. Very dull

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33 minutes ago, MickyD said:

For two.

Blow up doll with tank top would do a job.

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1 hour ago, Steejay said:

Blow up doll with tank top would do a job.

And some blow up crabs.

I'm hearing they are naming the bottom bar 'The Ken Anderson Bar'

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2 hours ago, Sluffy said:

Fair enough, it's just that you seem to pick up on the points I make more than most (apart from my usual camp followers of course).

Ooh Sluffy you are awful, but I like you. 

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Sluffy - TL:DR

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4 hours ago, Sluffy said:

I believe you are thinking of Richard Hurst?

I probably am

Is he still involved

In fact is roger the dodger still involved

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11 minutes ago, Casino said:

I probably am

Is he still involved

In fact is roger the dodger still involved

I think you most certain were - Hurst defends himself against links to Phil Gartside.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/14231621.new-supporters-trust-chairman-this-is-absolutely-not-for-personal-gain/

Mr Hurst has since sadly passed away -

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/17373697.tributes-paid-to-business-visionary-richard-hurst-who-has-died-aged-73/

I've no idea if Allanson is somewhere in the background at the ST or not.

I doubt it though.

It does seem that his solicitor offices have accordingly now been finally closed down by his professional body -

Decision - Closure

Reasons/basis

An Adjudicator is satisfied that Mr Allanson has failed to comply with the SRA Principles 2011, the SRA Accounts Rules 2011 and the SRA Practice Framework Rules 2011 being rules made under sections 31 and 32 of the Solicitors Act (paragraph 1(1)(c) of Schedule 1 to the Solicitors Act).

Intervening agents

John Owen of Gordons LLP, 1 New Augustus Street, Bradford, BD1 5LL has been appointed as the intervening agent.

https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/solicitor-check/132976/

And this from Gordons -

What has happened to Allansons LLP?

Allansons LLP of 1st Floor, Queens Buildings, Central Street, Bolton, Lancashire, BL1 2AB,

658 Ormskirk Road, Pemberton, Wigan, WN5 8AQ and

44 Clarendon Road, Watford, Hertfordshire, WD17 1DR (‘Allansons’),

has been closed down by the Solicitors Regulation Authority (‘SRA’). This is called an intervention.  The intervention took place on 24 May 2019.

Gordons LLP of 1 New Augustus Street, Bradford, BD1 5LL have been appointed to help the SRA with the closure. They are called the SRA’s Intervention Agent.

What does this mean?

If you were a client, Allansons can no longer act for you. You will need to find another lawyer to act. Gordons are not acting for you.

https://www.gordonsllp.com/allansons-llp-sra-intervention/

Did Iles ever do his article on Mr Allanson, the one time ST golden boy spokesman who set up the company to take ownership of the club on behalf of the ST?

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11612819

 

There is also quite a strange follow up to Allanson's if anybody is interested - make of it what you will???

https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/scam-alerts/2019/sep/allansons-llp-litigation-funder/

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9 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

😲 yawn yawn fucking yawn! 

Scientia potential est.

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59 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

I think you most certain were - Hurst defends himself against links to Phil Gartside.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/14231621.new-supporters-trust-chairman-this-is-absolutely-not-for-personal-gain/

Mr Hurst has since sadly passed away -

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/17373697.tributes-paid-to-business-visionary-richard-hurst-who-has-died-aged-73/

I've no idea if Allanson is somewhere in the background at the ST or not.

I doubt it though.

It does seem that his solicitor offices have accordingly now been finally closed down by his professional body -

Decision - Closure

Reasons/basis

An Adjudicator is satisfied that Mr Allanson has failed to comply with the SRA Principles 2011, the SRA Accounts Rules 2011 and the SRA Practice Framework Rules 2011 being rules made under sections 31 and 32 of the Solicitors Act (paragraph 1(1)(c) of Schedule 1 to the Solicitors Act).

Intervening agents

John Owen of Gordons LLP, 1 New Augustus Street, Bradford, BD1 5LL has been appointed as the intervening agent.

https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/solicitor-check/132976/

And this from Gordons -

What has happened to Allansons LLP?

Allansons LLP of 1st Floor, Queens Buildings, Central Street, Bolton, Lancashire, BL1 2AB,

658 Ormskirk Road, Pemberton, Wigan, WN5 8AQ and

44 Clarendon Road, Watford, Hertfordshire, WD17 1DR (‘Allansons’),

has been closed down by the Solicitors Regulation Authority (‘SRA’). This is called an intervention.  The intervention took place on 24 May 2019.

Gordons LLP of 1 New Augustus Street, Bradford, BD1 5LL have been appointed to help the SRA with the closure. They are called the SRA’s Intervention Agent.

What does this mean?

If you were a client, Allansons can no longer act for you. You will need to find another lawyer to act. Gordons are not acting for you.

https://www.gordonsllp.com/allansons-llp-sra-intervention/

Did Iles ever do his article on Mr Allanson, the one time ST golden boy spokesman who set up the company to take ownership of the club on behalf of the ST?

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11612819

 

There is also quite a strange follow up to Allanson's if anybody is interested - make of it what you will???

https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/scam-alerts/2019/sep/allansons-llp-litigation-funder/

Depressing, ain't it Sluffy, reading some of the comments from the Richard Heads on WW? Still not quite as bad as the Beeno. I wonder if any one of them used to contribute to the Beeno as Riggins44 or Riggermortis ,winner of the 2016 Bonehead of the Year award.

Bonehead of the Year 2016

Good morning, boys. We have a special award to make this morning and some very special guests that I would like to welcome to Lowbrow Academy.

Firstly I would like to introduce Mr Anderson-Shelter who is chairman of our governors and his very good friend and fellow governor, Mr Codswallop.

Mr Anderson-Shelter and Mr Codswallop joined the Board of Governors in March this year following the retirement of our principle benefactor, Mr Davies.

Mr Davies spent more than £175million in supporting the academy since 1999 and in appreciation our governors kindly presented him with a Poundland Gift Voucher to spend on anything he wanted. I am told that Mr Davies decided to spend it on a new trowel to use on his Isle of Man allotment and I hope that it has lasted the summer.

A number of members of staff have left this year to continue their careers elsewhere and we wish them all well especially our former Games Teacher, Mr Lemon. We welcome his replacement, Mr Parkinson, who has been doing very well with the school football team after some early disappointing results against Cheltenham Ladies College and Blackpool Jobseekers Club.

But it is in financial management that our new governors are showing their true mettle. Monthly losses have been slashed to £800,000; the audited accounts have been promised soon and are presently only nine months late and new accountants, Messrs Tickit, Blottit and Scarper, will soon be brought in to replace Dolittles.

You may not have heard of TBS but they have some splendidly refurbished offices in the town thanks to the foresight and generosity of Council Leader, Mr Minor.

Unfortunately I have some sad news to report. Mr Pennyfeather has recently been admitted for treatment in the Asylum for Broken Arithmetic Teachers.

However ABAT has a very good record so we hope to be able to welcome Mr Pennyfeather back in the not too distant future. In the meantime Miss Pickles from the Domestic Science department will undertake Mr Pennyfeather’s duties.

Now I would like to welcome the Chief Football Writer from the Bolton News, Mr Marc (I’m no business expert) IIes to present the BN 2016 Bonehead of the Year Award. Competition for this award is always intense but this year it has been fiercely contested and the judges have had a very difficult job picking a winner from so many deserving candidates. However one candidate stood out for consistent idiocy and stupidity throughout the year and I can now announce that this year’s worthy winner is Riggermortis.

Please show your appreciation for our invited guests and winner of the BN 2016 Bonehead of the Year, Riggermortis.

 

Edited by Chris Custodiet

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Not many folk are interested in all the financial bollocks anymore.Now that we've been taken over maybe people just want to enjoy some football & football related banter.

Or is that too much to ask?

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24 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

Scientia potential est.

Nil desparate Dan.

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