Johnnyrotten Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: The Derby match was monday and on sky It was Wed 2nd Jan, it wasnt on Sky. We did our usual thing of not playing on a bank hol so put it back to the following night. Dont blame Derby fans for not coming but it wasnt on Sky. Still a terrible following for a club getting 30k at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 15, 2020 Moderators Share Posted January 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: That doesnt make good reading. I admit my initial excitement that he ticked all the boxes for our current situation is a thing of the past. Bridcutt repeatedly at centre back was no.1 reason, the bizarre treatment of Politic was no.2, his rants and personality disorder no.3, the nonsensical release of Chicksen and subsequent comments no.4 and last night's absolute farce at left back, with Boon nowhere to be seen, is no.5. I'm happy for him to spend the rest of the season either proving me wrong or digging his own grave. I don't think boons a left back, is he I also don't think he will see next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 15, 2020 Moderators Share Posted January 15, 2020 Just now, Johnnyrotten said: It was Wed 2nd Jan, it wasnt on Sky. We did our usual thing of not playing on a bank hol so put it back to the following night. Dont blame Derby fans for not coming but it wasnt on Sky. Still a terrible following for a club getting 30k at home. I did a 300 mile round trip for that That was when I was sensible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 We had Campo, Diouff, Anelka and Stelios playing that night and attendance was 17,014, so not much more than 16,000 of us. Amazing really how little our crowds have dropped in the last 12 years when you consider the scale of how far we have fallen and everything that's been thrown at us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lofthouse Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 27 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: There aren't many in that bracket. I can only think of two. I thought that. Weir and ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeep Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Zouma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnden Pies Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 "We were too rushed, too slow". Ffs can you imagine the team talk: "you need to be bombing forward while tracking back". No wonder we're a fooking shambles. Loon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Bridcutt is kind of key in all this bullshit. KH has said he wants him but it's up to the player. Bridcutt has looked confused since his reinvention as a CB. Does Bridcutt have any faith in the KH vision or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Burnden Pies said: "We were too rushed, too slow". Ffs can you imagine the team talk: "you need to be bombing forward while tracking back". No wonder we're a fooking shambles. Loon. I dunno, I think he’s saying that we’ve been both in different times. It can make sense and could apply to fundamental bad decision making in varying scenarios. problem is when it’s not going well he needs to be succinct and offer as little as possible I’ve been mulling this over and I think he may come across as uber confident but it could be a skin as his waffle is consistent with neurotics that over justify stuff. Especially when under pressure. There’s a lot of “extroverts” that do this. Could be wrong obvs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Alf Hartigan Posted January 15, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, jules_darby said: I dunno, I think he’s saying that we’ve been both in different times. It can make sense and could apply to fundamental bad decision making in varying scenarios. problem is when it’s not going well he needs to be succinct and offer as little as possible I’ve been mulling this over and I think he may come across as uber confident but it could be a skin as his waffle is consistent with neurotics that over justify stuff. Especially when under pressure. There’s a lot of “extroverts” that do this. Could be wrong obvs. Been thinking similar, hope we're both wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lofthouse Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, jeep said: Zouma? Just checked 16 games! A major reason why we’re not very good at defending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Alf Hartigan Posted January 15, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, Burnden Pies said: "We were too rushed, too slow". Ffs can you imagine the team talk: "you need to be bombing forward while tracking back". No wonder we're a fooking shambles. Loon. I think he meant rushed upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted January 15, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Alf Hartigan said: I'll bet there's players at Watford that already hate Pearson, and they'll be the ones not in the team. I don't like (hate is too strong a word for someone I've never met) Pearson from what I've seen of him but he's clearly a good football manager looking at his track record. My instinct with Hill is that I don't like him, and never liked him from schooldays (same age) through to his time at Rochdale. However, I'm thinking the reaction to him on here recently is OTT. We were always going down this season especially after the first six games, but Hill put together a side at the last minute that gave us a brief glimpse of hope, that our horrendous injury jinx quickly put paid to. I'm still getting behind Hill and hoping he may have some of that Pearson magic. This season was a free hit IMO, and this is the case more than ever. Completely agree with that. Im still baffled over the recent outgoings of Chicksen, Earl and Wright, all of whom are better than what we have or have brought in. Were these forced upon him or by choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 28 minutes ago, Matt said: I thought that. Weir and ? Weir, Zouma, and possibly Politic. I don't think any of them have been managed well but I also think only one of them has much of a chance of making it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 15, 2020 Moderators Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Alf Hartigan said: However, I'm thinking the reaction to him on here recently is OTT. We were always going down this season especially after the first six games, but Hill put together a side at the last minute that gave us a brief glimpse of hope, that our horrendous injury jinx quickly put paid to. I'm still getting behind Hill and hoping he may have some of that Pearson magic. This season was a free hit IMO, and this is the case more than ever. That's where I'm at Am past caring about team selections and results this season, he can fuck about all he wants Clean slate as of the end of may He had us playing some good stuff in glimpses early doors so he gets a pre season to hit the ground running next season Till then, whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 57 minutes ago, enzo gambaro said: Bet that’s bollocks, he just managed in an era when every little thing wasn’t blown up into a drama on social media and dissected at length by folk with fuck all else to do with their time. That’s nothing to do with commanding respect, some managers even today manage to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, desperado said: Completely agree with that. Im still baffled over the recent outgoings of Chicksen, Earl and Wright, all of whom are better than what we have or have brought in. Were these forced upon him or by choice? There's been no news on Wright but Hill is quoted as letting Earl and Chicksen go. Although I've wondered if he might just have been toeing the company line. The only other reason I can think of for letting them go is that we think we can find better players right at the back end of the transfer window. There could well be some logic to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted January 15, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: There's been no news on Wright but Hill is quoted as letting Earl and Chicksen go. Although I've wondered if he might just have been toeing the company line. The only other reason I can think of for letting them go is that we think we can find better players right at the back end of the transfer window. There could well be some logic to that. Did think along those lines myself. All good reasons as to why we need to give more time for either the transfer window to play out, time for those new players to bed in and time for some more clarity to unfurl as to some of the decision making that’s taken place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said: It was Wed 2nd Jan, it wasnt on Sky. We did our usual thing of not playing on a bank hol so put it back to the following night. Dont blame Derby fans for not coming but it wasnt on Sky. Still a terrible following for a club getting 30k at home. Was thinking the one where stelios chipped the keeper in the last minute, That was deffo on sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Was thinking the one where stelios chipped the keeper in the last minute, That was deffo on sky I beginning to doubt myself now. Was sure there was a Monday night match he scored a late winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 15, 2020 Moderators Share Posted January 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: There's been no news on Wright but Hill is quoted as letting Earl and Chicksen go. Although I've wondered if he might just have been toeing the company line. The only other reason I can think of for letting them go is that we think we can find better players right at the back end of the transfer window. There could well be some logic to that. There could But that delay condemns us to relegation And if we follow what he says, we aint looking at players til may, we are after medium term, at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 18 hours ago, Ani said: Pity we let our leftbackS go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo gambaro Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Burnden Pies said: "We were too rushed, too slow". Ffs can you imagine the team talk: "you need to be bombing forward while tracking back". No wonder we're a fooking shambles. Loon. If you’re too slow in possession you end up rushing your pass because your options are shot to shit and you’re under pressure from the opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo gambaro Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: That’s nothing to do with commanding respect, some managers even today manage to do it. It’s not, but you’re assuming Rioch had them eating out of his hand because you didn’t have a dozen spurious sources telling you different. Besides, it’s miles easier when you’ve got good players and you’re winning every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 14 hours ago, enzo gambaro said: It’s not, but you’re assuming Rioch had them eating out of his hand because you didn’t have a dozen spurious sources telling you different. Besides, it’s miles easier when you’ve got good players and you’re winning every week. Well the good players bit certainly helps but there’s an argument that you only win every week “if” you command your players’ respect* Normally behaviour determines result for long term success; if you’re relying on a result to determine behaviour it’s less sustainable * of course you can do that without being authoritarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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