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40 minutes ago, Casino said:

Maybe this helps you

 

In November 2016, a special blue plaque was unveiled on the side of Lostock Electricals Projects Company on Bankfield Street.

If the plaque is on Bankfield Street I reckon I'm looking at the wrong side of Deane Road.

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Yep , Micky you are .

Come down Deane Road past Haslam Park , On your left hand side is the old Jolly Wagoner (now a restaurant) then a pelicon crossing . Bankfield Street is next on the right.

First of all there is a memorial plaque on your right  to a young lad (Dillon Hill 5 years old that was shot ) a few years ago.

The Pikes lane plaque is 150 yrds up on the left hand side.

What throws folk ( who have never left Harwood). is that Pikes Lane school was further down Deane Road behind where the medical  centre is on the left hand side.

 

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1 hour ago, MickyD said:

Where about was Pikes Lane Stadium? I have looked at the area around Pikes Lane School, Health Centre, etc., but there isn't an actual Pikes Lane any more...

 

Unless I've missed it.

Edit - I've looked at old maps of 1885 Bolton and they don't show much

I think it is to the west of Bankfield Street.

The ground hosted the first Football League v Scottish League match (2-2 in 1892).

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17 hours ago, embankment said:

Yep , Micky you are .

Come down Deane Road past Haslam Park , On your left hand side is the old Jolly Wagoner (now a restaurant) then a pelicon crossing . Bankfield Street is next on the right.

First of all there is a memorial plaque on your right  to a young lad (Dillon Hill 5 years old that was shot ) a few years ago.

The Pikes lane plaque is 150 yrds up on the left hand side.

What throws folk ( who have never left Harwood). is that Pikes Lane school was further down Deane Road behind where the medical  centre is on the left hand side.

 

Embankment and I were next door neighbours until we were about 3 or 4. 

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22 hours ago, MickyD said:

Where about was Pikes Lane Stadium? I have looked at the area around Pikes Lane School, Health Centre, etc., but there isn't an actual Pikes Lane any more...

 

Unless I've missed it.

Edit - I've looked at old maps of 1885 Bolton and they don't show much

I might be able to assist you a bit with this - it confused me for many years

The fact is that what was known as  Pikes Lane was renamed Deane Road in the 1890s

See the below extract on the History of  Deane  

Gate Pike and Pikes Lane

During the 18th and 19th Centuries the area of Deane lying at the foot of the hill called Deane Brow was known as ‘Gate Pike’.  The name ‘Gate Pike’ may have derived from the turnpike road which was the old road which led up to Deane; the ‘Gate’ may come from the toll bar, which was literally a gate at which tolls were paid by those wishing to use the road.  This toll bar was situated near what is now Haslam Park.

From Britannia Hotel, at the bottom of Deane Road, as far as Cannon Street, the road used to be known as Blackburn Street, and from that point to the bottom of Deane Brow, just beyond where Saviour’s Church once stood, it was Pikes Lane, hence the name of the school.  Around 1892 Blackburn Street and Pikes Lane became Deane Road.

The principal means of subsistence in Gate Pike was hand loom weaving and few houses were without at least one loom.  The cotton trade was established in cottages using handlooms in the 1600’s and 1700’s.  Wool was the main textile at the time but traders called ‘chapmen’ began to buy cotton and distribute it to spinners and weavers by packhorse.  The cotton trade prospered and in 1839, Dean Parish, which covered a large area, had 16 cotton mills, which were mainly worked by steam engines.

The Gate Pike area had a terrible reputation for gambling and drinking and it came to be known as “Hell’s Mouth.”  Holidays were generally spent racing, pigeon flying, and poaching or at local boxing and wrestling matches.   The village, as it then was, nestled at the foot of the brow and a winding lane, hedged on either side with hawthorns, ran from the centre of Bolton to the ancient church of St. Mary’s, Deane.  On the left hand side of the road coming from town were pretty little white-washed cottages with thatched roofs and roses round the doors.

Gate Pike was once famous for its association with Pikes Lane football ground, the former ground of Bolton Wanderers, where the club grew until it moved to Burnden Park in 1895.  The name Gate Pike has fallen into disuse as the district is not separate as it use to be.  The country lanes have gone long ago and the area has been transformed from what it once was.

As to the location of the Pikes Lane ground that is not straightforward because there was not one ground but two 

The first was a field known as "Dick Cockle's " which was opposite the Cross Guns Pub , Later they moved to "The Old Pikes Lane Ground" , at Gate Pike as described above  

There were further associations with this area in that both the Gladstone Hotel and the Britannia hotel - both on Deane Road were until 1895 the clubs headquarters 

GLADSTONE%2BHOTEL.jpg

This picture shows the Gladstone Hotel on 13 May 1964 next to the much larger Regent cinema. On the other side of the cinema is Harris Street, which can still be seen at the bottom end of Deane Road. The site of the Gladstone is roughly at the traffic lights at the bottom of University Way

http://lostpubsofbolton.blogspot.com/2014/03/gladstone-hotel-deane-road.html gives a bit of detail 

Britannia Derby Street Bolton

 the Britannia Hotel can be seen on the left of the picture. The cars in front of the pub are coming from the bottom end of Derby Street. The start of Deane Road is in the distance while Crook Street - which met both Derby Street and Deane Road - can be seen  running to the bottom of the picture. It was a tricky junction to negotiate right up until the road layout was changed in 1979 with the closure of that part of Derby Street and Crook Street when the Trinity Street by-pass was built.

Hope that clarifies things a bit 

 

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2 hours ago, MancWanderer said:

And POTG was 1s6d, the beer was warm and they didn’t put butter on the jam sandwiches 

Nowt changes 

Boo!!! 

Fuck me, I’m older than I thought.

1s6d was the first price I remember paying to get on the Embankment. 

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12 hours ago, Benny The Ball said:

I might be able to assist you a bit with this - it confused me for many years

The fact is that what was known as  Pikes Lane was renamed Deane Road in the 1890s

See the below extract on the History of  Deane  

Gate Pike and Pikes Lane

During the 18th and 19th Centuries the area of Deane lying at the foot of the hill called Deane Brow was known as ‘Gate Pike’.  The name ‘Gate Pike’ may have derived from the turnpike road which was the old road which led up to Deane; the ‘Gate’ may come from the toll bar, which was literally a gate at which tolls were paid by those wishing to use the road.  This toll bar was situated near what is now Haslam Park.

From Britannia Hotel, at the bottom of Deane Road, as far as Cannon Street, the road used to be known as Blackburn Street, and from that point to the bottom of Deane Brow, just beyond where Saviour’s Church once stood, it was Pikes Lane, hence the name of the school.  Around 1892 Blackburn Street and Pikes Lane became Deane Road.

The principal means of subsistence in Gate Pike was hand loom weaving and few houses were without at least one loom.  The cotton trade was established in cottages using handlooms in the 1600’s and 1700’s.  Wool was the main textile at the time but traders called ‘chapmen’ began to buy cotton and distribute it to spinners and weavers by packhorse.  The cotton trade prospered and in 1839, Dean Parish, which covered a large area, had 16 cotton mills, which were mainly worked by steam engines.

The Gate Pike area had a terrible reputation for gambling and drinking and it came to be known as “Hell’s Mouth.”  Holidays were generally spent racing, pigeon flying, and poaching or at local boxing and wrestling matches.   The village, as it then was, nestled at the foot of the brow and a winding lane, hedged on either side with hawthorns, ran from the centre of Bolton to the ancient church of St. Mary’s, Deane.  On the left hand side of the road coming from town were pretty little white-washed cottages with thatched roofs and roses round the doors.

Gate Pike was once famous for its association with Pikes Lane football ground, the former ground of Bolton Wanderers, where the club grew until it moved to Burnden Park in 1895.  The name Gate Pike has fallen into disuse as the district is not separate as it use to be.  The country lanes have gone long ago and the area has been transformed from what it once was.

As to the location of the Pikes Lane ground that is not straightforward because there was not one ground but two 

The first was a field known as "Dick Cockle's " which was opposite the Cross Guns Pub , Later they moved to "The Old Pikes Lane Ground" , at Gate Pike as described above  

There were further associations with this area in that both the Gladstone Hotel and the Britannia hotel - both on Deane Road were until 1895 the clubs headquarters 

GLADSTONE%2BHOTEL.jpg

This picture shows the Gladstone Hotel on 13 May 1964 next to the much larger Regent cinema. On the other side of the cinema is Harris Street, which can still be seen at the bottom end of Deane Road. The site of the Gladstone is roughly at the traffic lights at the bottom of University Way

http://lostpubsofbolton.blogspot.com/2014/03/gladstone-hotel-deane-road.html gives a bit of detail 

Britannia Derby Street Bolton

 the Britannia Hotel can be seen on the left of the picture. The cars in front of the pub are coming from the bottom end of Derby Street. The start of Deane Road is in the distance while Crook Street - which met both Derby Street and Deane Road - can be seen  running to the bottom of the picture. It was a tricky junction to negotiate right up until the road layout was changed in 1979 with the closure of that part of Derby Street and Crook Street when the Trinity Street by-pass was built.

Hope that clarifies things a bit 

 

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