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Site Supporter Spider Posted December 16, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2019 21 hours ago, Breightmet Boy said: I’ve never been a pet lover until one of the ex’s had two Bassett hounds. I wouldn’t of hesitated having a pet put down until I had Shannon n Phoebe, they’d of killed anything getting in my way in life, without exaggerating. The last ex was nearly stung with a £2,500 bill because her cat was struggling having a piss and this heartless bastard was honestly after saving her all that money by ‘doing the right thing’. It’s mental what they charge it really is, thieving bastards. Mixed PooCatalienen Vet qualification takes a minimum of 7 years and the debts that rack up are massive. on top of that, and contrary to popular belief, wages are on average £40k and you only make any proper money if you own a practice, which is rare. The fees they charge are fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 16, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2019 Anyway TMGJ - is the dog having a TTA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dusan nikolic Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 15/12/2019 at 16:01, Tonge moor green jacket said: Vets have said they will need to break the bone to repair it too. Sounds fookin horrible. Ok all you former football players. Anyone ever done one? What's recovery like? Hello mate , I have a collie/spaniel cross and her cruciate went when she was 9 , we had it operated on and all went well , but the vets told us the cruciate in the opposite leg almost always goes too ( it did 18 months later) . The recovery is 6 weeks and during that time it as to be the very minimal of exercise with a gradual increase in exercise during that time. If you need any advice just message me , we kept our dog pretty much confined to a small area because they need to rest it has much has possible and the slightest wrong jolt can fuck the whole thing up and you have to start over again with another op ( this happened on our dog's opposite leg ) , you will have to carry it down steps or slopes and just let it do it's business and then carry it back. It's a long job and you find yourself becoming a nervous wreck if you see the slightest limp. Hope this helps and good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Rudy Posted December 16, 2019 Members Share Posted December 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Spider said: Vet qualification takes a minimum of 7 years and the debts that rack up are massive. on top of that, and contrary to popular belief, wages are on average £40k and you only make any proper money if you own a practice, which is rare. The fees they charge are fair. I’m surprised at the length of time it takes to qualify but it is life they have in their hands. It is expensive but it’s what comes with having a dog, can’t imagine our house without the dog to come home to, or take out when I’m ready to go Michael Douglas in falling down. The dog understands me more than the wife. Mrs wanted a cat but being a Wanderers fan the poor thing would be scared shitless at 5pm on a Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 17, 2019 Author Site Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2019 15 hours ago, dusan nikolic said: Hello mate , I have a collie/spaniel cross and her cruciate went when she was 9 , we had it operated on and all went well , but the vets told us the cruciate in the opposite leg almost always goes too ( it did 18 months later) . The recovery is 6 weeks and during that time it as to be the very minimal of exercise with a gradual increase in exercise during that time. If you need any advice just message me , we kept our dog pretty much confined to a small area because they need to rest it has much has possible and the slightest wrong jolt can fuck the whole thing up and you have to start over again with another op ( this happened on our dog's opposite leg ) , you will have to carry it down steps or slopes and just let it do it's business and then carry it back. It's a long job and you find yourself becoming a nervous wreck if you see the slightest limp. Hope this helps and good luck. Thanks a lot. I'm just hoping the previous injury to the same knee and subsequent infection has contributed, and that it's a one off and therefore not likely to hit the other. Got him back last night, can't have the op yet until the culture results are back, and whatever bugs are in there have been cleared up. He's weight bearing and wanting to go- wouldn't think there was anything wrong- I'm surprised the pain relief is so effective! Spider: we're not sure whether it will be TTA or TPLO. Had a brief read up on the procedures and will be guided by the vets recommendation. Our vet is Beech House on stopes road, though he had to go to the out of hours get (pet medics) in Worsley. I don't think our own vet would undertake the surgery, so we will probably leave it in the hands of those who have been dealing with him so far. That said, he had his ocd sorted out by specialists in St Helens, so that would remain an option. I do find it amazing that they can confirm a fucked ligament by X-ray, and his lack of limp leaves me scratching my head. They are indeed tough hounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dusan nikolic Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Thanks a lot. I'm just hoping the previous injury to the same knee and subsequent infection has contributed, and that it's a one off and therefore not likely to hit the other. Got him back last night, can't have the op yet until the culture results are back, and whatever bugs are in there have been cleared up. He's weight bearing and wanting to go- wouldn't think there was anything wrong- I'm surprised the pain relief is so effective! Spider: we're not sure whether it will be TTA or TPLO. Had a brief read up on the procedures and will be guided by the vets recommendation. Our vet is Beech House on stopes road, though he had to go to the out of hours get (pet medics) in Worsley. I don't think our own vet would undertake the surgery, so we will probably leave it in the hands of those who have been dealing with him so far. That said, he had his ocd sorted out by specialists in St Helens, so that would remain an option. I do find it amazing that they can confirm a fucked ligament by X-ray, and his lack of limp leaves me scratching my head. They are indeed tough hounds. The lack of limping is baffling , so hopefully it is a slight tear , mine snapped it's cruciate completely on the first leg and torn it on the other . The surgeon had to come from Halifax , so we has a 1 week wait to have ours done . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 17, 2019 Author Site Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, dusan nikolic said: The lack of limping is baffling , so hopefully it is a slight tear , mine snapped it's cruciate completely on the first leg and torn it on the other . The surgeon had to come from Halifax , so we has a 1 week wait to have ours done . Absolutely; me and the missus are both a bit unsure at the moment. Not going to put him through a bit operation that he might not need! Going to go back to our own vet for a chat. Up to £1400 for a weekend break, some antibiotics and an x-ray! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted December 17, 2019 Members Share Posted December 17, 2019 Fucking TMGJ Ever since you told us about the pooch I’ve had a pain in my knee, thought it was just sympathy pains. Woke up and it’s the size of a grapefruit, you reckon you can have a word with your vet to sort me out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) Certain dog breeds tend to be more prone to damaging their cruciate ligament, my parents had a Doberman a couple of years ago, she started holding her hind leg up in the air and it turned out she had damaged her cruiciate ligament, it was just wear and tear. The vet said it was about a 80% chance that the other back leg would go the same way within about 12 months and it did. My parents weren't insured, cost them over 8K for both operations and on top of that the Doberman had a degenerative spine condition that cost another 2k for scans and vet bills. Just make sure that you insure your dog when your dog is a pup! Edited December 17, 2019 by Blondi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 17, 2019 Author Site Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Blondi said: Certain dog breeds tend to be more prone to damaging their cruciate ligament, my parents had a Doberman a couple of years ago, she started holding her hind leg up in the air and it turned out she had damaged her cruiciate ligament, it was just wear and tear. The vet said it was about a 80% chance that the other back leg would go the same way within about 12 months and it did. My parents weren't insured, cost them over 8K for both operations and on top of that the Doberman had a degenerative spine condition that cost another 2k for scans and vet bills. Just make you insure your dog when your dog is a pup! We did thankfully. Three of the buggers potentially could cost more than my house cost if they all required something doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: We did thankfully. Three of the buggers potentially could cost more than my house cost if they all required something doing. Think you might just be unlucky with your particular dog, Labradors, Rotweilers and Dobermans are very prone to the cruiciate injury, but small breeds can get them too. I have a Miniature Schnauzer, they are quite robust little dogs, he's insured of course, just glad I didn't opt for one of those British or French Bulldogs, or one of those Shar Pei dogs, they tend to have lots of problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusan nikolic Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Absolutely; me and the missus are both a bit unsure at the moment. Not going to put him through a bit operation that he might not need! Going to go back to our own vet for a chat. Up to £1400 for a weekend break, some antibiotics and an x-ray! When mine did it's first leg she wasn't insured , so it cost me about £2,100 altogether ( no x ray needed because it snapped altogether ) , as you can imagine we soon had her insured , and the 2 operations on the other leg came to £5,200 on the insurance , we still had to fork out £800 or so excess . If your dog isn't showing any limping , personally I'd still limit the exercise ( if you haven't already) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said: When mine did it's first leg she wasn't insured , so it cost me about £2,100 altogether ( no x ray needed because it snapped altogether ) , as you can imagine we soon had her insured , and the 2 operations on the other leg came to £5,200 on the insurance , we still had to fork out £800 or so excess . If your dog isn't showing any limping , personally I'd still limit the exercise ( if you haven't already) . How did you manage to insure your dog for the second operation? Presume it wasn't a pre existing medical condition? Edited December 17, 2019 by Blondi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusan nikolic Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Blondi said: How did you manage to insure your dog for the second operation? Presume it wasn't a pre existing medical condition? No it wasn't pre existing , we insured our dog straight after the first operation, at the time insurers would pay out on separate legs even if it was the same type of injury , I was told a couple of weeks back by a veterinary nurse we know that insurers now won't pay out in these circumstances, there was 18 months between ops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Rudy’s Message said: Fucking TMGJ Ever since you told us about the pooch I’ve had a pain in my knee, thought it was just sympathy pains. Woke up and it’s the size of a grapefruit, you reckon you can have a word with your vet to sort me out? Could be bursitis aka housemaids knee. I had it about 6 years ago, hurt like fuck for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted December 17, 2019 Members Share Posted December 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Could be bursitis aka housemaids knee. I had it about 6 years ago, hurt like fuck for a few days. On the side rather than the front and hurts to bend it, which concerns me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 40 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said: On the side rather than the front and hurts to bend it, which concerns me Sounds like bad AIDS pal that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted December 18, 2019 Members Share Posted December 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Escobarp said: Sounds like bad AIDS pal that Nah can’t catch it twice, shirley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 23, 2019 Author Site Supporter Share Posted December 23, 2019 Dog's not having the opp now. At least not yet. Orthopaedic vet at our branch looked at him jumping in the surgery and walking happily and said he wouldn't be doing that with a ruptured ligament. Got to let the infection clear, see if it has damaged the ligament and take it from there. Better news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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