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He’s clearly not been happy with him. Been in and out for a few weeks 

obviously thinks we have / can get better. Not sure we have better or anything at all as I’ve no idea when Bunney is due back? 
 

ive seen us have worse at LB in the last few years. So he must have something lined up 

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1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

A lot of things hes saying at the moment are contradictory, hes probably confused himself. 

He definitely reads Social Media

He definitely thinks hes a big cheese (not onions)

I am happy for him to build a squad for next season, young hungry players and an identity to how we play. But for me, hes got until October next season, if we aren't thereabouts on that shit league is a gonner!

And in the meantime hes got to find a top young striker, because I cannot see Big Daz Murphy as part of his plans next season or Paul O'Grady.

Mo faala? 

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13 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said:

He’s clearly not been happy with him. Been in and out for a few weeks 

obviously thinks we have / can get better. Not sure we have better or anything at all as I’ve no idea when Bunney is due back? 
 

ive seen us have worse at LB in the last few years. So he must have something lined up 

I'm happier in the moments I actually think there us a joined up plan

Most of the time, I feel it's just chucked together on a whim

If Sharon and Emma are in on it, then I'll relax, but if he's being given free rein I'm not a happy bunny

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28 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

A lot of things hes saying at the moment are contradictory, hes probably confused himself. 

He definitely reads Social Media

He definitely thinks hes a big cheese (not onions)

I am happy for him to build a squad for next season, young hungry players and an identity to how we play. But for me, hes got until October next season, if we aren't thereabouts in that shit league he is a gonner!

And in the meantime he's got to find a top young striker, because I cannot see Big Daz Murphy as part of his plans next season or Paul O'Grady.

What's the average wage per week in League Two?

I don't know the answer, but I'd be interested to know if it's above or below £2,000.

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It is claimed 1 - 1.5k a week average

I know we are told we are limited to 2 but whether that reduces on relegation I dunno

That lad, billy clark?, we had pre season who went to Plymouth and has just moved on, was offered 600 a week by us

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Hill has never acheived anything higher than a promotion to League1 and failed at Barnsley.

Was unemployed when BWFC reached out and he claimed he'd have crawled over broken glass to get here. He has an excellent opportunity to raise his stock, but claiming that he's putting his neck & reputation on the line is bollocks. 

Poundshop Mourinho trying to be clever.

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2 hours ago, Mr Grey said:

A lot of things hes saying at the moment are contradictory, hes probably confused himself. 

He definitely reads Social Media

He definitely thinks hes a big cheese (not onions)

I am happy for him to build a squad for next season, young hungry players and an identity to how we play. But for me, hes got until October next season, if we aren't thereabouts in that shit league he is a gonner!

And in the meantime he's got to find a top young striker, because I cannot see Big Daz Murphy as part of his plans next season or Paul O'Grady.

I have the same sort of target. This & the summer transfer windows, then 3 monthsish into next season for players to settle in. At that point we don't have to be top of the league, I'm not expecting us to run away with it next season, but i would definitely expect us to be showing some sort of a plan & a clear improvement by then.

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9 hours ago, Casino said:

It is claimed 1 - 1.5k a week average

I know we are told we are limited to 2 but whether that reduces on relegation I dunno

That lad, billy clark?, we had pre season who went to Plymouth and has just moved on, was offered 600 a week by us

Yep, just cos the supposed limit is £2k, doesn’t mean that’s what we can afford to offer 

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41 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

If £600 is the sort of money we’re looking to pay players we will be non league within 5 years. 

It's  genuinely shocking if that wage offer is true, there will be hundreds  of   season ticket holders on a bigger wage than the players.When Tranmere were relegated to Conference surely they'd be paying their strikers 31k a year

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I'm sure there was a link a bit back to a report comparing 2014 wages to 30 years earlier.

In 1984 it was a linear progression from 4th tier to 1st, with the 4th tier average above - but not super-generously so - the national average wage. Then by the time you got to the top tier it was 3.5 times as big as the 4th. In 2014 it was 35 times as big; 10 times in 2nd tier. But the 4th tier wage was proportionally the same as in 1984.

Or summat

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1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

If £600 is the sort of money we’re looking to pay players we will be non league within 5 years. 

In context, that was for a 32 year old who’s  done as many cruciate ligaments in the last two years as he’s scored goals.

I’m pleased it’s Grimsby who have taken a punt on him and not us.

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Lets say you pay a player X amount to get them here. We're league 2 - we go up. Then you pay some more players a bit more to compete in league one. All the time we're breaking even or making a small loss. Then after a year or 2 mid table in league one, fans get bored and stop coming. And we're making a bigger loss. Then what?

The point is that we've spent a decade spending money on the likes of Craig Conway - for at best a short shot of success followed by failure. The only signing model that's ever made sense was Sam Allardyce paying big bucks for stars who'd fallen by the way side at big clubs and rejuvenating their careers. But that model isn't possible anymore. Everything else for us has been throwing what we can't afford at players who mainly aren't good enough to stop the inevitable. In the last decade we've slowly slid down the leagues with only the league one promotion and championship survival bucking the downward trend. But even that was based on paying what we couldn't afford to sustain very short term "success".  

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Pushing 35, struggled a bit with injuries the last couple of seasons?

If we’re identifying players we’d like but also putting a realistic value on them based on a number of different criteria then I’m happy.

It’s better than paying them whatever they want plus 10pc for their agent.

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