radcliffe white Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 😀 I thought chino no more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 What a depressing reminder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Rizlar said: As he been sacked or something hes been too quiet I would have expected him to be mouthing off on the BEN about footballing issues. I think he’s on furlough so I’d assume isn’t allowed to say owt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Its still a bit strange. He doesnt have to be "working" to have a chat with the BN. All the interviews printed over the last few weeks arent in an official capacity, they are just people giving their thoughts. He should be able to offer some sort of comment, even if only to confirm that no work is going on currently and that he is furloughed or whatever. Marc Iles is (understandably) desperate for interviews of any sort, yet the world's chattiest man who happens to live in Bolton and manage BWFC is unavailable for comment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 We appear to be falling into the injured player mindset again. The longer we don’t hear from him people miss him. if I never hear him speak again about BWFC it will be music to my ears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said: Its still a bit strange. He doesnt have to be "working" to have a chat with the BN. All the interviews printed over the last few weeks arent in an official capacity, they are just people giving their thoughts. He should be able to offer some sort of comment, even if only to confirm that no work is going on currently and that he is furloughed or whatever. Marc Iles is (understandably) desperate for interviews of any sort, yet the world's chattiest man who happens to live in Bolton and manage BWFC is unavailable for comment? I think Hill probably knows his days are numbered so little point anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ros Coe Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 33 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I think Hill probably knows his days are numbered so little point anyhow. I think you’re probably right, but shouldn’t we wonder why someone who has such a good record at this level has been sooo poor after what was a very promising start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ros Coe said: I think you’re probably right, but shouldn’t we wonder why someone who has such a good record at this level has been sooo poor after what was a very promising start? What good record is this then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Ros Coe said: I think you’re probably right, but shouldn’t we wonder why someone who has such a good record at this level has been sooo poor after what was a very promising start? His good record is mainly at league 2, BWFC is way too big a club for him. Edited May 26, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 44 minutes ago, Ros Coe said: I think you’re probably right, but shouldn’t we wonder why someone who has such a good record at this level has been sooo poor after what was a very promising start? He’s not got a good record. He’s managed shit teams and achieved very little. seriously he was shit. It’s only easier now due to Covid and us not having to suffer his team selection anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRepWanderer Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 40 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: His good record is mainly at league 2, BWFC is way too big a club for him. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Just looking at hills 2nd stint at rochdale Defensively poor his last season they let in 87! ian Henderson definitely bailed him out with his goals for many seasons and Scott hogan before that. it’s a big worry for me that so many basic defending errors continue to happen and goals conceded seems to be highlighted at dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 I'm not pro-Hill at all, but for a bit of balance, not only did he get Rochdale promoted twice, in their first season in Div 1 (2nd spell, 2014-15) they finished 8th even though they only won 2 of the last 8. Well on course for play offs until then. He must have been doing something right even though at times its difficult to see what his plan is for us. I dont go along with this "BW are too big for him" we arent Man U or Arsenal where you have to have a media profile and have the magnetism to attract big names. If he can organise a squad of players to win games at Rochdale on their budget in Div 2 and Div 1 he can do it for anyone at that level, its mainly about good recruitment, good communication (dont laugh) and getting a team to play to a plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ros Coe Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Win percentages: Big Sam 39.4% Parky 36.77% Chino: 38.3% Those figures don’t point to him being a shit manager at the level he’s managed at - so why does he now seem a very shit manager? i don’t recall hearing too many objectors at the time of his appointment so why now blessed with hindsight do we all think he’s not up to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 He behaves like an utter petulant weapon. And he evidently does not coach a team defend properly. Basic requirement oh and he’s a nuclear grade weapon in case I haven’t mentioned it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 I think Iles reported that all staff have been told not to give interviews in the current circumstances. Ps. Managerial won percentage is a shit metric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, Escobarp said: And he evidently does not coach a team defend properly. Basic requirement Phil Parkinson tried organising this season's load of shite and resigned 4 matches in after they'd shipped in 5 at Rochdale and 5 at Tranmere. JImmy Phillips then had a go at managing them and shipped in 5 against Ipswich and 5 against Gillingham Think the problem is more BWFC having a lot of poor footballers and not having a pot to piss in than Hill being a bad manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 26, 2020 Moderators Share Posted May 26, 2020 Parkinson and phillips didnt have the players hill had I think he will probably go, but i keep coming back to the january transfer dealings Definitely weakened us - was that his choice, who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said: Phil Parkinson tried organising this season's load of shite and resigned 4 matches in after they'd shipped in 5 at Rochdale and 5 at Tranmere. JImmy Phillips then had a go at managing them and shipped in 5 against Ipswich and 5 against Gillingham Think the problem is more BWFC having a lot of poor footballers and not having a pot to piss in than Hill being a bad manager Parky played the kids, Hill over Xmas and new year was utterly clueless, he’s proven crap at Barnsley, crap at the end of his Rochdale career and crap would be too kind a word for is Bolton tenure. Edited May 26, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadfrog1 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 I'm not convinced Hill would get us promoted, so for me he has to go. No more excuses or mitigating factors, club can't take 2 years of league 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: Parky played the kids, Hill over Xmas and new year was utterly clueless, he’s proven crap at Barnsley, crap at the end of his Rochdale career and crap would be too kind a word for is Bolton tenure. There was stuff going on over January behind the scenes that undoubtedly made Hills job harder.i know he doesnt help himself at times and we were utter shit after xmas but i honestly think any manager would have struggled with the players we have at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 He made a decent start and seemed to have recruited well. Then came Accrington. I lost a lot of faith in his coaching skills that day. Defensively, Burton at home wasnt much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Yep think we won 3 on the bounce before accy all looked well some of the goals conceded against wimbledon/Southend & Burton at home = amateurish defending at its best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, snowball said: There was stuff going on over January behind the scenes that undoubtedly made Hills job harder.i know he doesnt help himself at times and we were utter shit after xmas but i honestly think any manager would have struggled with the players we have at the moment. I’m sure there were lots of things going on but he’s hardly a calm and rational thinker, Parkinson would have kept a calm head steered the team through it and kept us up. Edited May 27, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruba Mustafa Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) I’m inclined to agree that parky would have done a job but sadly I think money has meant that parky moved on, I reckon he’s on way more than Keith hence he’s got the sunlan gig, if we can finish mid table this season then I’ll be happy. he knows his way round this league so we’ll be reet. meantime we can steady the ship, get the car park developments going and ready the club for prospective buyers with a vision. (Probably wearing rosy tinted glasses😊) Edited May 27, 2020 by Ruba Mustafa Spello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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