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39 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Nolan had a more successful career? Really? I’d say pretty even.

Dunn played under Allardyce at Blackburn who also tried to sign him for us. He also won an England cap.

Im unconvinced why Nolan would have respect any more than any other random former premiership midfield player. It pretty much comes down to he played for us. 

There aren't many 'random' former premier league players likely to be available. So what if he played for us- doesn't preclude him from being capable.

As for the two blokes having comparable careers; utter bollocks.

Nolan streets ahead, and with several clubs, where he did well.

You're talking with your cock out.

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43 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Nolan had a more successful career? Really? I’d say pretty even.

Dunn played under Allardyce at Blackburn who also tried to sign him for us. He also won an England cap.

Im unconvinced why Nolan would have respect any more than any other random former premiership midfield player. It pretty much comes down to he played for us. 

DUNNE 
 

1998–2003 Blackburn Rovers 136 (30)
2003–2007 Birmingham City 58 (7)
2007–2015 Blackburn Rovers 180 (20)
2015–2016 Oldham Athletic 8 (0)
Total   382 (57)

 

NOLAN
 

1999–2009 Bolton Wanderers 296 (40)
2009–2011 Newcastle United 85 (29)
2011–2015 West Ham United 141 (30)
2016 Leyton Orient 14 (0)
2017–2018 Notts County 0

(0)

Total 536   (99)

I reckon those stats state that Dunne wasn't fit to lace Nolan's boots.

 

Besides, Nolan never did this

 

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8 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Plus Dunn was injury prone and Nolan scored many more goals. Safe to say Nolan the better player. 

Plus Dunn never played in Europe as far as I can remember

Given neither had a career where you can use trophies as a barometer of success I'd say euro and prem appearances is the next best thing 

And Nolan wins easily 

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18 minutes ago, Take Hunt Off said:

Choice between tweedle dee & tweedle dum ffs

We need a course & distance winner .

Yes, that'll be BSA or Colin Wanker and they aren't coming.

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Aye Nobby wins..

Now back to Chino. He's sounding more desperate by the game, and he has the team in a losing habit, same as Parkinson.

How long do FV give him? I would say he's got the gig to the end of the season, with Kenyon here I'm assuming they have something up their sleeve, but does that involve Chino ?

If he's fucked off at the end of the season, it wont bother me, he's a tinpot manager who chats shit, but as someone alluded to earlier, we could end up with tinpot mark 2 Flitcroft.

 

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16 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Plus Dunn never played in Europe as far as I can remember

Given neither had a career where you can use trophies as a barometer of success I'd say euro and prem appearances is the next best thing 

And Nolan wins easily 

I mean I’d give Nolan the edge but there isn’t much in it. Dunn had injuries so didn’t play as many games. And harmed back end of his career. But he got an England cap. 

The point wasn’t really who was the better player. More that both played lots of premiership football. No Blackburn fan would call for Nolan as manager just as no Bolton fan would seriously ask for David Dunn. Not till they were established and proven as managers.

Thats my point. Nolan may be the best choice but let’s not just give him a job cos he used to play for us.

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16 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Plus Dunn never played in Europe as far as I can remember

Given neither had a career where you can use trophies as a barometer of success I'd say euro and prem appearances is the next best thing 

And Nolan wins easily 

Let's also remember Kevin Davies played for England once, and no one's advocating him for manager. As did Micheal Ricketts, who went on to successfully twat his partner- perhaps he'd be an ideal fit!

Anyway, Richie Wellens getting good reviews and well spoken of at Swindon.

Sam Ricketts continuing his good work at Shrewsbury, following on from similar levels at Wrexham.

Blokes are out there and showing potential especially at the level we're going to be at.

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2 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

I mean I’d give Nolan the edge but there isn’t much in it. Dunn had injuries so didn’t play as many games. And harmed back end of his career. But he got an England cap. 

The point wasn’t really who was the better player. More that both played lots of premiership football. No Blackburn fan would call for Nolan as manager just as no Bolton fan would seriously ask for David Dunn. Not till they were established and proven as managers.

Thats my point. Nolan may be the best choice but let’s not just give him a job cos he used to play for us.

You said their careers were pretty even when clearly they weren't 

It was your opening line. So what if Dunn had injuries later on? And bring his England cap into it again 

Andy Carroll scored more England goals than Andy Cole. Are you suggesting the former had the better career? 

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14 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

I mean I’d give Nolan the edge but there isn’t much in it. Dunn had injuries so didn’t play as many games. And harmed back end of his career. But he got an England cap. 

The point wasn’t really who was the better player. More that both played lots of premiership football. No Blackburn fan would call for Nolan as manager just as no Bolton fan would seriously ask for David Dunn. Not till they were established and proven as managers.

Thats my point. Nolan may be the best choice but let’s not just give him a job cos he used to play for us.

Aye, so did Michael Ricketts. What point are you trying to make?

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3 minutes ago, Casino said:

How about lets not have either of em anywhere near the club

This summer needs to see quite a few ex players out of the club

Lets not be bringing more in

You might be right. Personally, I don't care if it's an ex player or not. Just the right person.

Being a former employee should neither favour nor preclude someone from the job.

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13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

You might be right. Personally, I don't care if it's an ex player or not. Just the right person.

Being a former employee should neither favour nor preclude someone from the job.

Indeed, all this 'former player will know what makes the club tick, what the fans want, galvanize the players blah blah' isn't what it should be about. We need the right person for the task in hand and the situation, regardless of where he's from, who he played for, whether he's a closet Red or whatever. Coyle was a former player who would bring the feel-good factor back. 

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11 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

Indeed, all this 'former player will know what makes the club tick, what the fans want, galvanize the players blah blah' isn't what it should be about. We need the right person for the task in hand and the situation, regardless of where he's from, who he played for, whether he's a closet Red or whatever. Coyle was a former player who would bring the feel-good factor back. 

Indeed. ANY fucker with half a brain knows what the fans want. Fans want wins. Fans don't want tales of how pleased the manager is with the way our team lost but with great play.

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39 minutes ago, Casino said:

How about lets not have either of em anywhere near the club

This summer needs to see quite a few ex players out of the club

Lets not be bringing more in

Yep. My point. This obsession with fans calling for former players in for no reason other than they used to play for us is nonsense. That was my point with Dunn. Let’s get the best man for the job. The very best candidate. Not just someone to please the fans. Been there done that.

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FWIW I'd never form an opinion on a player based purely on appearances, because getting a game is down to impressing one man, not the whole league.  Lets just say Liam Trotter and Luke Murphy.  And it doesnt take into account injuries, so Murphy is probably "better" than Mark Davies.  If Sam Allardyce hadnt been a manager, how many top flight appearances does Nolan get?  I'm not having a go at Nolan, but some players follow managers around, whether BSA was in championship or Prem he took Nolan with him, nobody else was battering down the door to take him to the prem.  Andy O'Brien has probably played more Prem games than Gudni Bergson.

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11 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

FWIW I'd never form an opinion on a player based purely on appearances, because getting a game is down to impressing one man, not the whole league.  Lets just say Liam Trotter and Luke Murphy.  And it doesnt take into account injuries, so Murphy is probably "better" than Mark Davies.  If Sam Allardyce hadnt been a manager, how many top flight appearances does Nolan get?  I'm not having a go at Nolan, but some players follow managers around, whether BSA was in championship or Prem he took Nolan with him, nobody else was battering down the door to take him to the prem.  Andy O'Brien has probably played more Prem games than Gudni Bergson.

A bit like Phil Neal and Julian Darby 😀

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