Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted January 20, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 20, 2020 We have shown we are more than capable of getting out of any division... Which way is another matter 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, leigh white said: That National League is a killer, so many teams Iv'e seen playing Wanderer's in the past, a very hard league to get out of. Worse than that, Wrexham & Chesterfield are in danger of dropping again down to the National league north, York, Chester, Darlo & Hereford are already there & Scarboro even further down. Oddly, I can't see anyone we've played in the National league south !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bolton va va said: Worse than that, Wrexham & Chesterfield are in danger of dropping again down to the National league north, York, Chester, Darlo & Hereford are already there & Scarboro even further down. Oddly, I can't see anyone we've played in the National league south !! Aldershot (albeit, like Scarborough/Chester/Hereford/Darlington, a phoenix club rather than the club that we played previously) were supposed to have gone down to National League South last season but got a reprieve when Gateshead got kicked out. Edited January 20, 2020 by Leyther_Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: Aldershot (albeit, like Scarborough/Chester/Hereford/Darlington, a phoenix club rather than the club that we played previously) were supposed to have gone down to National League South last season but got a reprieve when Gateshead got kicked out. I know not Scarborough or Darlo, but if the others still play at the ground where we played them, i'm counting them as the same club 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said: Technically he's right as it would be our lowest ever finishing position. I know what your saying but by that rule, if we win every game next season 10-0 its the 2nd worst season in our history! No, this season is the worst in our history, we can hardly say the year we went up from Div 4 was worse. Just like we cant say getting 98 points under Todd was worse than finishing bottom of the Prem the year before. If we finish 7th or 8th next season its a far better season than this, because we would be competitive every week with hope of progressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: I know what your saying but by that rule, if we win every game next season 10-0 its the 2nd worst season in our history! No, this season is the worst in our history, we can hardly say the year we went up from Div 4 was worse. Just like we cant say getting 98 points under Todd was worse than finishing bottom of the Prem the year before. If we finish 7th or 8th next season its a far better season than this, because we would be competitive every week with hope of progressing. I think last season was worse than this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, boltondiver said: I think last season was worse than this I was thinking 2015/16 when Phillips was caretaker, only won 5 fucking games and conceded about 80 goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted January 21, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) On 19/01/2020 at 15:16, Dr Faustus said: In, we are a lucky few to have seen our club in every division from the inception of the PL. How many have done it? Oldham Bradford Bournemouth Pompey Swindon?  OK not so lucky 😂 On 19/01/2020 at 17:13, fatolive said: Aye, but how many of those have watched their teams in all 4 divisions and European football ? Portsmouth & Burnley only two I can think of?   On 19/01/2020 at 17:24, radcliffewhite1 said: Swansea? On 19/01/2020 at 17:24, radcliffewhite1 said: Fulham On 19/01/2020 at 17:29, ZicoKelly said: Wigan On 19/01/2020 at 17:33, radcliffewhite1 said: Wolves Coventry have done all four divisions and would have played european football by virtue of their 1987 FA Cup victory but for those media darlings in Merseyside.      Edited January 21, 2020 by MickyD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, MickyD said: Coventry have done all four divisions and would have played european football by virtue of their 1987 FA Cup victory but for those media darlings in Merseyside.      And Wimbledon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I’m hoping next season we’ve bottomed, can’t see how we continue with the unibol and all the associated costs with more than 1 or 2 seasons in league 3. Need to bounce back up first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted January 21, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I’m hoping next season we’ve bottomed, can’t see how we continue with the unibol and all the associated costs with more than 1 or 2 seasons in league 3. Need to bounce back up first time. I don't think there's any doubt.... Is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Trotter Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) Surprised people are still banging the drum for us pissing these lower divisions. Haven't we learnt that trading on the club's name alone means nothing? Take away your natural biases and think: - We're still going to be under an embargo - We have almost nobody under contract next year - Any assets we do have coming are likely to be picked up by other clubs. Instead of Luca Connell, read Ronan Darcy and Dennis Politic (and then even if we do sell them, we can't reinvest that money due to the previously mentioned embargo!) - We're not attractive to prospective players if all we can offer is relative peanuts, a big half-empty stadium and memories of the club being a force 15 years ago. Let's not forget, even Salford City (mid-table L2, 2500 United part-time fans on at best, fuck all history) can double the wages we can on strikers from the Scottish Prem. Even thinking of promotion from L2 is, at this moment, a long long way from my thinking. I bet Bradford City fans thought they'd have no problem with League 2 when they went into it not long after they dropped out of the PL... EDIT: I'm in, without a doubt Edited January 22, 2020 by TM Trotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 22, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2020 At least we don't have to sell playing assets if they're under contract. The situation is somewhat different to Kunt selling Clough to keep the club afloat. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Like a few on here, i was around last time we were in the bottom tier and i'll be there next time. If anything, us nearly going under strengthened my passion for Bolton Wanderers. I can't wait for us to be able to compete on a level playing field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter FrancisFogarty Posted January 22, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2020 In a nutshell. Until the dust has settled and we are under the same restraints (r otherwise) as everyone else we won't know our true position. Let's just give it a go. PS I know I previously said we'll piss it, but I was talking with my heart not my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okocha10 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, TM Trotter said: Surprised people are still banging the drum for us pissing these lower divisions. Haven't we learnt that trading on the club's name alone means nothing? Take away your natural biases and think: - We're still going to be under an embargo - We have almost nobody under contract next year - Any assets we do have coming are likely to be picked up by other clubs. Instead of Luca Connell, read Ronan Darcy and Dennis Politic (and then even if we do sell them, we can't reinvest that money due to the previously mentioned embargo!) - We're not attractive to prospective players if all we can offer is relative peanuts, a big half-empty stadium and memories of the club being a force 15 years ago. Let's not forget, even Salford City (mid-table L2, 2500 United part-time fans on at best, fuck all history) can double the wages we can on strikers from the Scottish Prem. Even thinking of promotion from L2 is, at this moment, a long long way from my thinking. I bet Bradford City fans thought they'd have no problem with League 2 when they went into it not long after they dropped out of the PL... EDIT: I'm in, without a doubt Bang on, its the reality of where the club is at unfortunately. It's pissing me off at the moment why Politic & Darcy have not been given long term contracts. You just know there going to go for next to nothing yet again the clubs not learning. At the moment the money we have put in the academy has been a waste. Edited January 23, 2020 by Okocha10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Trotter Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 15 hours ago, Francis Fogarty said: In a nutshell. Until the dust has settled and we are under the same restraints (r otherwise) as everyone else we won't know our true position. Let's just give it a go. PS I know I previously said we'll piss it, but I was talking with my heart not my head. I wasn't having a go - in my heart I'm the same, we should be stuffing the likes of Barrow and Macclesfield! I just wouldn't want us to get too cocky yet - there are fans of loads of decent sized clubs like Chesterfield, Stockport County, etc, who also probably thought that League 2 would be easy. (Not that were on quite the same level, but the point does stand!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 5 hours ago, Okocha10 said: Bang on, its the reality of where the club is at unfortunately. It's pissing me off at the moment why Politic & Darcy have not been given long term contracts. You just know there going to go for next to nothing yet again the clubs not learning. At the moment the money we have put in the academy has been a waste. Under the terms of the embargo - are we allowed to hand out long term contracts?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okocha10 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said: Under the terms of the embargo - are we allowed to hand out long term contracts?? That Faal we signed got a 18 month contract other than that not to sure what terms we are under with our embargo. Edited January 23, 2020 by Okocha10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRepWanderer Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said: Under the terms of the embargo - are we allowed to hand out long term contracts?? Contracts yes, loans can only be short term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 23, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 23, 2020 Surely we must get some of our youngsters signed up first. At least we'd get something if they did go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghana White Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I'd honestly be happy to consolidate next season, cant change the squad much and theyll be a massive losing mentality. Bad start to the season I'd worry where we end up. I'd hoped we would be building for next season now but cant see any sign of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghana White Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Plus everyone will be desperate to beat us and theyll play out of the skin at the unibol. Be best ground most of them have played at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okocha10 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 23/01/2020 at 08:37, Okocha10 said: Bang on, its the reality of where the club is at unfortunately. It's pissing me off at the moment why Politic & Darcy have not been given long term contracts. You just know there going to go for next to nothing yet again the clubs not learning. At the moment the money we have put in the academy has been a waste. Finally they have listened & got Politic signed up till 2022! Darcy & few other lads hopefully soon then we might building something for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted January 24, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 24, 2020 Great news seeing Politic signed up. I rate him as the best of our youngsters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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