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5 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said:

I reckon the more weight she put on the more attractive Brook got, I bet there was some sort of critical mass that if she ever reached it every ballbag on the planet would explode simultaneously.

Agreed

This 3 items per person is gonna ruin the chunky monkey 

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I went to Morrisons at 7.45 last night, straight in and out, everyone keeping their distance apart from one dumb fucker stood in middle of isle on their phone. No need to go now until I'm out of fruit.

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16 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said:

Wife finishes 14 day isolation at the start of the week and is back in school at the end of the week. She's had every symptom of Covid.

We don't know if she's had it, we don't know if she has still got it and is infectious, we don't know anything other than she has had all the symptoms and was in bed for a good 10 days.

There'll be loads in the same position who are going back to all different roles and it's only now they have started about testing front line NHS staff.

Is it madness or is it the best we can do, I'm sat here undecided at 3 beers in.

Some scottish doctor on the tellybox this morning, 

Said that basically seasonal flu has gone to bed, if you've had symptoms it's more than likely Corona Virus..

 

Also.. looking at figures.

Cases in Bolton, doesn't seem to have grown since Thursday and is at 26..

Salford (where I work) has doubled to 56

These are people that will have got it at a similar time to me, and haven't shifted it and it's started to affect their breathing, hence the hospital visit.

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38 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

People keep mentioning herd immunity. There is no option for herd immunity without a vaccine. This idea was floated by Cummings who thought he understood the science but didn’t. As with most things. 

Herd immunity means hundreds of thousands of deaths. Its not an option. Further there is no definitive study showing how long lastingly effective antibody immunity is.

The only thing we can do is prevent as many people getting this as possible for as long as possible. Until either an effective treatment or vaccine is available. There is currently no other way. Not my words CAROL but those of TOP GEAR MAGAZINE. 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Some scottish doctor on the tellybox this morning, 

Said that basically seasonal flu has gone to bed, if you've had symptoms it's more than likely Corona Virus..

 

Also.. looking at figures.

Cases in Bolton, doesn't seem to have grown since Thursday and is at 26..

Salford (where I work) has doubled to 56

These are people that will have got it at a similar time to me, and haven't shifted it and it's started to affect their breathing, hence the hospital visit.

If it provides any reassurance they are only testing in hospital and Salford Royal are importing cases in from other areas as per MEN. This explains the comparatively high numbers in Salford atm. 

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1 minute ago, Casino said:

Not if the herd getting infected is otherwise healthy

Yep.

I accept his premise from a practical point of view, if nobbers aren't keeping clear of the olds etc, however through proper isolation of them, it should be achievable.

That said I don't really fancy a dose of it, and I would imagine that not many do, so it's probably going to need a jab I'm the end to sort it.

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3 minutes ago, Casino said:

Not if the herd getting infected is otherwise healthy

Barring a vaccine - there's no wait out of lockdown without the herd immunity plan.

Unless everyone wants to stay indoors for 18 months. 

Still think it will be a managed return so some semblance of normality and with curbs re-established everytime the numbers at hospital start to creep up again. Until a vaccine or antivirals come out.

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1 minute ago, kent_white said:

Barring a vaccine - there's no wait out of lockdown without the herd immunity plan.

Unless everyone wants to stay indoors for 18 months. 

Still think it will be a managed return so some semblance of normality and with curbs re-established everytime the numbers at hospital start to creep up again. Until a vaccine or antivirals come out.

Only feasible way 

and for me in terms of vaccines whooping cough vaccine nearly killed me and had me in hospital for a couple of weeks apparently according to my parents. MMR also had be seriously ill. TB had me off school for a couple weeks very ill despite the docs telling me I would be ok. 
 

So i think a covid19 vaccine is out the Question for me anyway 

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25 minutes ago, Casino said:

Not if the herd getting infected is otherwise healthy

two people is a herd if you think about it.....

how many people who have jobs are ill and off work at one time ?

they want people to get it at different times or not get ill. thats probably why they didnt lockdown proper. 

probably what they had to do once China were all "nothing to see here, move along" . By then it were probably too late...

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If I take the antibody test and am proven to be immune. amongst others, there is no reason why i can't go back to work full time at the school..

 

Once they have enough people there to man it, there is nothing to stop students coming back without symptoms.. 

 

problem is the idea falls apart if someone has symptoms

 

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4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Why hasn’t London been totally locked down by now if it the epicentre?

Place should’ve been closed down weeks ago.

Didn't we have an ITK report on here the other day from 'Sharon''* saying army roadblocks in the smoke by this weekend ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Sharon aka bwfcfan5

 

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37 minutes ago, Casino said:

Not if the herd getting infected is otherwise healthy

Perfectly fit and healthy young people end up on ventilators with this. You can’t easily manage this. I think we need restrictions of some sort until a vaccine is available. Unless some other magic way crops up to stop transmission. It might be 3 months isolation followed by 2 out. Nobody knows. But there isn’t a simple way out. If you have proper long lasting immunity then possibly herd immunity might be a very long term managed way over the next two years but nobody knows how long immunity lasts.

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11 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

These Government daily updates are okay when it comes to facts, statistics and logistics, but these questions from news outlets are all along the same lines every fucking day! with some of them even chirping in with a sly dig. 

Twitter and Facebook is full of shite calling for Johnson to resign, kick the Tories out etc.... some people no matter what their political allegiances are, just cannot help themselves, i read one social media rant yesterday saying the same shite as they were during the election campaign, Tory lies, Johnson lies, cover ups, BJ and Hancock are faking the CV,  the left wing/Momentum mob wont and never will accept anything this government does whether is correct or not. 

And there are dyed in the wool Tories who wouldn’t accept anything a Labour government did. I’d bet Johnson would be one up in arms about Blair imposing these restrictions. There are plenty of right wing twats saying we shouldn’t have any restriction because it’s all overblown. 

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9 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

Done 45 miles with the dog this week, it’s a young border collie so it could do 45 miles in a day - it’s me thats fucked !

Our dog is loving it at the moment because we’re home he just roams around the garden along with his two walks a day he’s fast asleep by 8pm

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28 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

And there are dyed in the wool Tories who wouldn’t accept anything a Labour government did. I’d bet Johnson would be one up in arms about Blair imposing these restrictions. There are plenty of right wing twats saying we shouldn’t have any restriction because it’s all overblown. 

You need to lie down or put the bottle down.

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