Coronavirus

[bwfcfan5]

Just now, Ani said:

I am no fan of the Tories. But asking the same question 10 times as some journalists are doing to highlight any errors is tedious. 
 

I am in the 7/10 camp so far. Just hope after the event is not all about to 3 that could have been better. 
 

I also hope that any scrutiny on calls made by doctors in this crisis is made with due reflection on the circumstances. You can almost imagine the ambulance chasers getting their adverts ready. ‘Medical negligence claim’ will be a boom industry in 6 months the fucking leeches. Representing the panic buying pud going partying dick heads. 

Asking a question on repeat is only necessary if you don’t get a proper and truthful answer. When Hancock came out and answered honsetly about testing he wasn’t asked again. In fact he invited follow up questions. Clear and transparent and honest. Before that they weren’t being honest. If they had at the start mobilised our lab space we could be doing more tests, because they didn’t we arent. But now they are. This is exactly why these questions need asking. Now they are doing what can be done it’s a good thing. A positive. 

[Escobarp]

We should have done a sweepstake with half the prize money to the nhs 

[Casino]

6 minutes ago, Morizio said:

We’ve been discussing Fairfield hospital and the 50 year old cut off point. 

Indeed we have

Id have made the same decision if they had been 50 as it happens

 

Anyway, fwiw, the line being drawn at 50 will be bollocks

 

But, on the matter of the letters going out telling folk over 70? (age is irrelevant) that they wont be resucciated is unacceptable in my opinion

[Rudy]

4 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

It’s the grand national done virtually pal

I’m too hungover to even entertain that. 

[Leyther_Matt]

11 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Can everyone who wants to support the NHS and or likes a bet, get on the Virtual Grand National. 

All profits go to the NHS

ITV 5pm

Done. Fiver E/W on Tiger Roll as the favourite and fiver E/W on Two’s Company as it feels quite fitting at the moment.  

[Mounts Kipper]

I’m on Bristol de Mai and pleasant company. £5 ew the pair. 

[Casino]

Not that it matters, but who is to say theres not a few versions been done

[kent_white]

26 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Can everyone who wants to support the NHS and or likes a bet, get on the Virtual Grand National. 

All profits go to the NHS

ITV 5pm

Great shout. Had no idea this was happening. Lumped on! 🙂

Don't bet on the favourite though. Apparently the NHS will get dick all! 

[kent_white]

15 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Done. Fiver E/W on Tiger Roll as the favourite and fiver E/W on Two’s Company as it feels quite fitting at the moment.  

Pleasant company? We've gone for the same for the same reasons!

[Casino]

2 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Great shout. Had no idea this was happening. Lumped on! 🙂

Don't bet on the favourite though. Apparently the NHS will get dick all! 

Which was my point above

Im thinking an outsider

[Escobarp]

10 win on burrows saint 

and I’ve put a fiver each way on death duty for @Kent White and @bolton_blondie  

if it wins proceeds to you two for a night out. Thought it was quite an apt name 

[Morizio]

26 minutes ago, Casino said:

Indeed we have

Id have made the same decision if they had been 50 as it happens

 

Anyway, fwiw, the line being drawn at 50 will be bollocks

 

But, on the matter of the letters going out telling folk over 70? (age is irrelevant) that they wont be resucciated is unacceptable in my opinion

Good to have choice although apart from dismissing what another poster has put and I can’t see a reason to why, I’m not sure of what your point is?

 

However I do see that you’ve alluded to putting an age on things is discriminatory.

 

[mickbrown]

49 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

If you're genuinely in a position of offer advice to help the fight, fine. But do so in the correct way- contact the authorities and get involved in a beneficial way.

Those that know no more than the rest of us, screeching and spreading shite around (particularly on social media) are only hampering efforts. 

BBC have just done a bit, where they debunked some bullshit spread on such platforms.

My brother also sent me a couple of these things on WhatsApp with the usual "send it to everyone" bollocks at the bottom.

I told him the message was full of inaccuracies and should not be sent to anyone. And deleted it.

 

I think that’s where the media come in. Highlight the messaging from the government, hold them account on the bullshit

[Escobarp]

Tedious 

[deane koontz]

21 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

10 win on burrows saint 

and I’ve put a fiver each way on death duty for @Kent White and @bolton_blondie  

if it wins proceeds to you two for a night out. Thought it was quite an apt name 

I read this wrong. I'm going to hell now.

[mickbrown]

Sychophant

[Tombwfc]

2 hours ago, Escobarp said:

Never said anyone should shut up. As I’ve said nobody is immune to criticism and that applies to everything in life. But there is a time and a place and a manner for giving that criticism so as to promote positive change 

i personally welcome criticism and constructive feedback in all facets of life  it’s how we evolve and develop 

a “told you so” mentality or constantly trying to force home your own politically biased views to an audience wishing to discuss a global pandemic just doesn’t cut it for me.

 

oh and our media are an utter disgrace. They are the forefront of the political point scoring 

 

A lot of that is people's reaction to the messenger rather than the message. 

If Andrew Neil tweets that the governments briefings on PPE and testing have been terrible, or if The Spectator/some Conservative blogger says the government have tanked our economy for the flu, that's ok. But if someone from the other side says similar, they're political point scoring. 

There's no reason for anyone to be overly defensive - they're a government, not your football team. I've said before I think they're doing a pretty decent job in extremely difficult circumstances, but they've also been aided by the criticism and questions they've been made to answer.

I also don't see what political points there are to score - that particular battle was decided fairly decisively in December.

Edited April 4, 2020 by Tombwfc

[Roger_Dubuis]

I see Liverpool FC have put their non playing staff on furlough.They spent £75 million on a centre half and £66 million on a goalkeeper and are seeking a government handout to pay the tea lady!

The greedy, greedy bastards

 

[Escobarp]

6 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

A lot of that is people's reaction to the messenger rather than the message. 

If Andrew Neil tweets that the governments briefings on PPE and testing have been terrible, or if The Spectator/some Conservative blogger says the government have tanked our economy for the flu, that's ok. But if someone from the other side says similar, they're political point scoring. 

There's no reason for anyone to be overly defensive - they're a government, not your football team. I've said before I think they're doing a pretty decent job in extremely difficult circumstances, but they've also been aided by the criticism and questions they've been made to answer.

I also don't see what political points there are to score - that particular battle was decided fairly decisively in December.

If Andrew Neil says something I listen because I deem him to suitably appraised. Same as in most facets of life in that I listen to people who are clearly qualified to talk about the subject at hand. 
 

not some loon from a football forum banging the red labour/anti tory drum constantly  Or some two bit journalist trying to increase their own personal profile or clickbait wankers. 
 

I also agree wholeheartedly that there is no point trying to politically point score. Perhaps may I suggest then your message is imparted to those who believe it is still appropriate 

[Escobarp]

6 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

I see Liverpool FC have put their non playing staff on furlough.They spent £75 million on a centre half and £66 million on a goalkeeper and are seeking a government handout to pay the tea lady!

The greedy, greedy bastards

 

Fuck off rodge 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

29 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

 

I think that’s where the media come in. Highlight the messaging from the government, hold them account on the bullshit

That's the point, until an inquiry is held when all this is done, we don't know what the bullshit is.

The frenzy over this testing situation is ridiculous. I don't believe for one minute that the government have decided not to buy tests.

If however, the preparation wasn't as good as it could have been, fine; we'll find out in due course.

[Spider]

12 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

I see Liverpool FC have put their non playing staff on furlough.They spent £75 million on a centre half and £66 million on a goalkeeper and are seeking a government handout to pay the tea lady!

The greedy, greedy bastards

 

Are your lot going to follow suit?

[mickbrown]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

That's the point, until an inquiry is held when all this is done, we don't know what the bullshit is.

The frenzy over this testing situation is ridiculous. I don't believe for one minute that the government have decided not to buy tests.

If however, the preparation wasn't as good as it could have been, fine; we'll find out in due course.

But without the ‘frenzy’ I’m not sure we’d have seen the urgency we are seeing now

[Escobarp]

5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

That's the point, until an inquiry is held when all this is done, we don't know what the bullshit is.

The frenzy over this testing situation is ridiculous. I don't believe for one minute that the government have decided not to buy tests.

If however, the preparation wasn't as good as it could have been, fine; we'll find out in due course.

And if it transpires after the inquest that they could have prepared better and should have clearly acted in a different manner whilst armed with the necessary information to make that that decision then heads should roll. Simple as that. 

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

But without the ‘frenzy’ I’m not sure we’d have seen the urgency we are seeing now

So the media now effectively dictate the actions of the government yes?