Sweep Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, jayjayoghani said: I think if you lockdown severely and it works, you can just point at other countries. NZ and Australia do this with Europe, particularly UK. The UK's big issue is you've locked down and still >30k have died. The thing is, we haven't really locked down - having said that, Spain has had a serious lockdown, and they've had shit loads die as well. I guess the issue was just "locking down" too late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted May 7, 2020 Author Members Share Posted May 7, 2020 Anyone got numbers of Spain’s and Italy’s numbers once they relaxed restrictions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 57 minutes ago, Escobarp said: I think you’re right. But it’s also exactly what we thought would happen anyway in terms of the lockdown , release and then lockdown cycle is it not? So not a surprise? I’m happy to continue with my life as is at the moment. That said from an economic point of view it really is getting dire and if it was affecting me financially or Potentially long term career wise I would likely be pushing To get back to something more normal as well We had to agree at some point, this moral high ground approach isn’t helpful from certain people - nor is the idea anyone asking for direction about the future for business and movement is either a member of the Harold Shipman fan club or will leap to blame the government. Our offices will be doing temp tests, masks, plastic barriers, social distancing etc but the getting to and from work is the problem. The first round of furlough folk are back in June, I’m furloughed for three weeks now (hope some of those pitches come off) We need at least a plan to go forward, even with resumption and the regional lockdowns if required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 In too late, likely out too soon. And then we’ll be wondering why so many are dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Interesting https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-black-people-four-times-more-likely-to-die-with-covid-19-ons-11984448 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Interesting https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-black-people-four-times-more-likely-to-die-with-covid-19-ons-11984448 My gf works in HR side of NHS and the issues around the safety and health of their BAME staff are taking up the majority of her time at moment, really huge problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Interesting https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-black-people-four-times-more-likely-to-die-with-covid-19-ons-11984448 Culture fing innit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, royal white said: Culture fing innit Innit cuz seriously though my neighbours are Indian and from the off the amount of non family members calling around is unreal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Italy carried out an almost identical number tests to us yesterday (64k vs 69k) and had 5x less come back positive (1,400 vs 6,111). Spain had 3,121 from an unclear number of tests, but they were doing 40k a day in mid-April, so won't be far off. And that'll just about get you let out for a walk. Given the situation we're in already - surely loosening the lockdown three weeks too early is far more dangerous than three weeks too late? For the economy, as well as public health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, ZiggyStardust said: The population is not as dense in NZ as the UK (population 50% of London, Size greater than UK). And I'm guessing the population is not as dense in NZ as the UK. See the street parties tomorrow for evidence. When you have discussions such as 'How far am I allowed to travel for a takeaway, Which Garden Centres are open' I'm not sure you have lockdown. My point was, NZers have an obvious incentive to behave. British folk, you could argue understandably thinking, fuck it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted May 7, 2020 Moderators Share Posted May 7, 2020 4 hours ago, boltondiver said: Any software experts on here? Must be! https://lockdownsceptics.org/code-review-of-fergusons-model/ lockdownsceptics.org :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted May 7, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: Italy carried out an almost identical number tests to us yesterday (64k vs 69k) and had 5x less come back positive (1,400 vs 6,111). Spain had 3,121 from an unclear number of tests, but they were doing 40k a day in mid-April, so won't be far off. And that'll just about get you let out for a walk. Given the situation we're in already - surely loosening the lockdown three weeks too early is far more dangerous than three weeks too late? For the economy, as well as public health. It's more rife now than it was when lockdown started.. just courting a second wave now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted May 7, 2020 Author Members Share Posted May 7, 2020 All over the media is that it’s going to be relaxed, picnics, days out, seeing families is fuckin stupid IMO, people can’t stay in now, it’s gonna be frigging rife this weekend. I fear it’s the calm before the storm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 7, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Rudy’s Message said: All over the media is that it’s going to be relaxed, picnics, days out, seeing families is fuckin stupid IMO, people can’t stay in now, it’s gonna be frigging rife this weekend. I fear it’s the calm before the storm. ....got to fill those Nightingale hospitals somehow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 7, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2020 Bank of England earning of a deep recession. Bang on cue. Just 3 days before the announcement. Lets see if this is part of the reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Don't buy PPE from Turkey 😷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted May 7, 2020 Author Members Share Posted May 7, 2020 Just now, deane koontz said: Don't buy PPE from Turkey 😷 Hope they kept the receipt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, deane koontz said: Don't buy PPE from Turkey 😷 aye, that's turned out to be a bit embarrassing for all involved hasn't it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leigh white Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, deane koontz said: Don't buy PPE from Turkey 😷 Did some cracking snide Barcelona tops.☺️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter HomerJay Posted May 7, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said: All over the media is that it’s going to be relaxed, picnics, days out, seeing families is fuckin stupid IMO, people can’t stay in now, it’s gonna be frigging rife this weekend. I fear it’s the calm before the storm. The media are to blame. Even the BBC are listing was COULD happen. And morons take it as fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 23 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: lockdownsceptics.org 😷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: lockdownsceptics.org Aside of that, have you read it? Edited May 7, 2020 by boltondiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted May 7, 2020 Author Members Share Posted May 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, HomerJay said: The media are to blame. Even the BBC are listing was COULD happen. And morons take it as fact. All the rags are terrible for it then they report on people being out and blame the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 35 minutes ago, Sweep said: aye, that's turned out to be a bit embarrassing for all involved hasn't it You'd have thought at some point during all the wrangling about getting it delivered, someone would have raised the question "Does it meet UK safety standards/is it fit for purpose?" Embarrassing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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