Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 5, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted August 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Is it still a swab up your nose? Yes. 6 minutes ago, Casino said: thats the one daughter had and results took 18 hours Everyday is easily possible. Results iirc were in around 30-45 minutes. Could do staff before they go onto residents pre shift. Just got to get the machines made and sent out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Aberdeen pubs restaurants etc shut. Reviewed in a week. Seems sensible way to go about it. And at least up there there can be no blame on other parts of the community as there’s not many of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolton_blondie Posted August 5, 2020 Members Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Casino said: Whats the point if no symptoms? Can poss see the point of antibody testing Are they going to test you every day You tell me. We all think it's bullshit. Couldnt give a shit about us for the last few months. All of a sudden are wanting us to test. It's all about figures and targets. Oh and we got told we'd be getting a disciplinary if we refused. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted August 5, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Nowack said: It seems everyone is agreed that it's accurate testing, a working track and trace and a compliant population. Houston, we have a problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted August 5, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted August 5, 2020 34 minutes ago, bolton_blondie said: You tell me. We all think it's bullshit. Couldnt give a shit about us for the last few months. All of a sudden are wanting us to test. It's all about figures and targets. Oh and we got told we'd be getting a disciplinary if we refused. Nice. Monster - in - law has been told that she needs to get a test in the next few days, she's NHS, She's got to get to Blackburn to get tested, and doesn't drive. No symptoms, same threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkonion Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Nowack said: It seems everyone is agreed that it's accurate testing, a working track and trace and a compliant population. Point one, I think that's the case isn't it? I don't remember hearing anything to the contrary. Point two I think is only possible if point three happens which I doubt is going to happen any time soon. As regards testing like others on here I think that antibody testing will probably prove to be equally as important if not more so than the antigen test. Fingers crossed that the antibodies stick around for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) Are we at the point where those in charge should get rid of any confusion and just simplify it and say: - this is how the disease spreads - this is how you minimise your risk - this is what you do if you think you have it - this is what you do if you have it and furlough is done, everyone is back at work, everything can open and we take it from there? Edited August 5, 2020 by ErnestTurnip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkonion Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, MickyD said: Houston, we have a problem! Beat me to it with your snappy response Micky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkonion Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said: Are we at the point where those in charge should get rid of any confusion and just simplify it and say: - this is how the disease spreads - this is how you minimise your risk - this is what you do if you think you have it - this is what you do if you have it and furlough is done, everyone is back at work, everything can open and we take it from there? I think that won't be to far off what will eventually happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said: Are we at the point where those in charge should get rid of any confusion and just simplify it and say: I see this as being the issue, they've not managed it before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said: I see this as being the issue, they've not managed it before Has anybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowack Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, MickyD said: Houston, we have a problem! To be honest I think we are struggling with all 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Still no cases on the fylde coast, as been reported on the news this morning. That’s despite having more visitors than anywhere else in the county. Numbers falling across England as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted August 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted August 6, 2020 What I really don’t understand is why they aren’t busting their balls to get an antibody test to everyone in the country. Surely this will provide the most accurate picture of where we are? The tests exist, why not get them rolled out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Spider said: What I really don’t understand is why they aren’t busting their balls to get an antibody test to everyone in the country. Surely this will provide the most accurate picture of where we are? The tests exist, why not get them rolled out? You don’t need to roll it out to everyone A sample of a few tens of thousands would be enough to give you an accurate prediction of the whole country within a small margin of error Last I heard, 6% of us have had it, which would mean at least 60%-70% will need to get it for us to approach ‘herd immunity’ That’s 30m+ still to go then Edited August 6, 2020 by birch-chorley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 6, 2020 Moderators Share Posted August 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Last I heard, 6% of us have had it Where did you hear that I think its a lot more Admittedly sample size was only 50, but around 20% tested positive for antibodies Tgat was probably 6-8 weeks ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted August 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted August 6, 2020 Also Covid accounts for only 7% of all deaths in people under the age of 55. And 18% of all deaths in people under 65. Clearly, something has to be done about the oldies to get us back on track. Shit for them, I know, but they’re the ones it kills in real numbers. bear in mind - these are mainly the retired or almost retired. It may seem a bit far fetched, but I’d be asking over 60’s to stay home for the Autumn. Big fines if they don’t. It is what it is for them I’m afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Casino said: Where did you hear that I think its a lot more Admittedly sample size was only 50, but around 20% tested positive for antibodies Tgat was probably 6-8 weeks ago I was of the impression it’s 20% in London, 6% nationally Think that was a while back though, after the peak mind Let me have a dig about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 This article from last week recons 7% https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/one-ten-londoners-previous-coronavirus-a4512126.html A long way to go then #letslockuptheoldiesandcrackon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plums Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Any estimates of infection rates is just that, an estimate. they’ve not done enough testing to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave2980 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 49 minutes ago, gonzo said: Still no cases on the fylde coast, as been reported on the news this morning. That’s despite having more visitors than anywhere else in the county. Numbers falling across England as well. That's not what they were saying on the news last night. They were saying that the number of cases is on the rise (Of course that may be relative to the number of tests being completed though - I wasn't paying that much attention) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Plums said: Any estimates of infection rates is just that, an estimate. they’ve not done enough testing to know. Statistically speaking, to get accuracy of 99% you need a sample size of just under 20k for a population of 66m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, dave2980 said: That's not what they were saying on the news last night. They were saying that the number of cases is on the rise (Of course that may be relative to the number of tests being completed though - I wasn't paying that much attention) New cases are definitely increasing but Gonzo might be referring to the total number infected. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-51768274 Look at daily infections and see how Spain is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 41 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Statistically speaking, to get accuracy of 99% you need a sample size of just under 20k for a population of 66m They've done over 1.4m antibody tests in total as per yesterdays numbers. That's based on neccessity rather than as part of a representative study, but it's still enough that you'd imagine someone would notice if the number of positives were much higher. Pretty much every study from comparatively affected countries has come back with similar numbers (5-7%). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plums Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, birch-chorley said: Statistically speaking, to get accuracy of 99% you need a sample size of just under 20k for a population of 66m I don’t think that applies to epidemiology! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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