peelyfeet Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 54 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Andrew Neil with Anders Tegnell The way he answered the "why has Sweden had many more deaths than nordics" question with - it was the poor immigrants and Stockholm had a winter holiday period, sounds like bull to me - what about Germanys immigrants, and is it nothing at all to do with Sweden having lenient restrictions for a month longer than most at the beginning? England Germany, Denmark Sweden and Norway all had inital outbreak at the same time, similar deaths per m and cases in the early weeks, a few weeks behind France, Italy, Spain, Belgium. Guess who were the only 3 countries in Europe to still have lenient restrictions in mid March. England, Sweden and Belarus. Sweden have had loads more infections, cases and deaths than the 9 countries theyre nearest to, all with differing demographics. 10 times more on average, for a population 14 times smaller than the 9 added together, and it's the immigrants and a weeks holiday in Feb that caused it. I don't believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 In Bolton TC trying to kill time while my car gets its service and mot. Can't even go for a brew and a sit down. Place is a ghost town at the best of times its proper shite today. I imagine the same is true in towns all across the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger_Dubuis Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, frank_spencer said: In Bolton TC trying to kill time while my car gets its service and mot. Can't even go for a brew and a sit down. Place is a ghost town at the best of times its proper shite today. I imagine the same is true in towns all across the country. Cafes in Bolton aren't allowed to let people sit in.You can get a coffee at Greggs on the bus station and find a seat there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54234084 I am sure there will be experts on Twitter that will explain it is all bullshit followed by sheep. ( or sheepole) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Roger_Dubuis said: Cafes in Bolton aren't allowed to let people sit in.You can get a coffee at Greggs on the bus station and find a seat there I was gonna get a brew from Costa on Victoria Square and sit in the sun but it's closed down.😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ani said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54234084 I am sure there will be experts on Twitter that will explain it is all bullshit followed by sheep. ( or sheepole) They basically just teed it up for Bojo to add some restrictions soon. "We need to break unnecessary links between households" was the key line. Hospitality, Sports and entertainment will get booted to some extent I bet. Schools and businesses will crack on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 21, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2020 They were just lubing up Londoners. It'll be the same restrictions we've had up here for a fortnight, but the southerners need the touchy feely treatment because they're a shower of fucking queers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 43 minutes ago, Ani said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54234084 I am sure there will be experts on Twitter that will explain it is all bullshit followed by sheep. ( or sheepole) As a thicko can some explain..... How many in ICU? How many Dead? How many normally die in November? How many people infected v tests as a %. I am trying to work out what happens for shielders..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 hours ago, peelyfeet said: I'm sure there's all sorts of bollocks going on, on Facebook, and there's obviously a small amount of conspiracy nuts who believe it's a 5G, paedophile ring cover-up, vaccine micro chip, George Orwell style liberty steal. But I havent seen "a number of high profile people in the area" using social media to share conspiracy theories, so I doubt the high infection rate in Bolton has been caused by this. Anyone seen any famous locals doing this? I don't know about the hashtag but she's bang on about COVID skepticism generally. At least in my experience anyway. There was a bloke from Bolton who rang in to LBC last night, and he was heavily implying that it was some kind of conspiracy because despite all the reported cases in Bolton, he didn't kmow anyone who had contracted the virus. I went in a shop yesterday and no one was wearing a mask except me, there was no plexi glass screen at the checkout, and the staff at the counter were stood laughing and joking with each other. People just aren't taking it seriously enough unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, Big E said: As a thicko can some explain..... How many in ICU? How many Dead? How many normally die in November? How many people infected v tests as a %. I am trying to work out what happens for shielders..... In england or Bolton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 pubs must shut by 11pm in wales hahahaha, whats that an hour earlier than usual? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: In england or Bolton? UK. i want it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I don't know about the hashtag but she's bang on about COVID skepticism generally. At least in my experience anyway. There was a bloke from Bolton who rang in to LBC last night, and he was heavily implying that it was some kind of conspiracy because despite all the reported cases in Bolton, he didn't kmow anyone who had contracted the virus. I went in a shop yesterday and no one was wearing a mask except me, there was no plexi glass screen at the checkout, and the staff at the counter were stood laughing and joking with each other. People just aren't taking it seriously enough unfortunately. I agree with that. The article is trying to claim that it's covid scepticism via social media bollocks that is the cause of the spike in Bolton, driven by a number of high profile people from the area posting shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 My daughter works for the NHS and told me this morning that there were 9 admitted to Wigan over the weekend and she has been told to expect the worst from November 26th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted September 21, 2020 Author Members Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, frank_spencer said: I was gonna get a brew from Costa on Victoria Square and sit in the sun but it's closed down.😄 I haven’t been in town for ages, went to Game on Friday and it’s not there, it’s in sports direct. Very bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, Big E said: As a thicko can some explain..... How many in ICU? - How many Dead? How many normally die in November? How many people infected v tests as a %. I am trying to work out what happens for shielders..... The info you want changes with the various reports that are issued - some of them are daily with a lag, some weekly with a lag, and others monthly. ICU numbers aren't a great way of measuring total deaths of covid, as more people are dying at home and in care homes, but they are a good way of measuring infection spread, although a few weeks behind. There's all sorts on here https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/ https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/ https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/national-covid-19-surveillance-reports https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/?_ga=2.210160592.452018062.1600691041-559566711.1577983804 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases https://www.icnarc.org/Our-Audit/Audits/Cmp/Reports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted September 21, 2020 Author Members Share Posted September 21, 2020 When are the pubs opening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, Rudy said: When are the pubs opening? 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, boltondiver said: 2021 29 March Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: You not heard, that Covid is rife ater 11pm and so are Vampires, my advice, stay inside. it's comical, this is the worst government we've had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 5 hours ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Got a message saying face masks need to be worn by parents on Saturday league outside ffs The FA, and LFA met over the weekend, apparently new update being issued this afternoon, and I bet another one before the weekend, based on which restrictions Bojo adnnounces tomorrow. Hope they keep outdoor sport - can't see them keeping indoor for the duration. I might be wrong, just guessing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 21, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2020 They won't cancel outdoor sports, it's too vital to mental and physical wellbeing, especially kids. They'll simply insist on masks etc. Though we all did track n trace, sanitiser etc.. at the weekend. No more schools seem to have sent kids home today, promising sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Poor from the scientists, I thought. More project terrify. It wasn’t a prediction, but that is the slide that will stay in people’s minds. Anything less than lockdown will seem like an enhancement of our liberty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 If I was to guess, I reckon we're on for another half arsed lockdown. Schools and work they'll try to keep the same (although WFH if/where possible), pubs and restaurants on a 10pm curfew with table service only, and people told not to mix with anybody from outside their own household. Outside sports can continue, but indoor sports knocked on the head It'll be farcical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, boltondiver said: It wasn’t a prediction, but that is the slide that will stay in people’s minds. Correct, which is what they need for whatever Boris is going to announce tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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