Coronavirus

[Spider]

I think the main fuck up was track and trace and the awarding of multi-million pound contracts to their donor buddies.

A virus hitting our crowded island is a fucking nightmare and people really need to take a look at themselves. Especially the tin foil hat cunts saying it’s made up/social control.

I wouldn’t envy any govt having to deal with this.

But, they could still have done better by reacting faster and not making out track and trace was world leading, because it’s absolute flamingo shit.

Edited September 21, 2020 by Spider

[Sweep]

The track and trace is terribly embarrassing, there is no way of dressing that mess up

[MickyD]

5 hours ago, L/H White said:

it's comical, this is the worst government we've had 

Anything not wearing a red rosette wouldn’t figure as making a decent job for some though. A Labour government making exactly the same calls and decisions would, in the eyes of dyed in the wool socialists would be the right call every single time.

[Boby Brno]

3 hours ago, Sweep said:

Does anybody think that the Government is handling this well?

I know its uncharted territory, but the handling has been pretty poor, and I think Boris hasn't shown himself to be a great leader throughout this, as he's generally nowhere to be seen

I tend to take a balanced view based on what I see in other countries. Reports on the BBC news in both France and Spain show that they have exactly the same complaints as we do. The Czech health minister has just resigned due to a huge increase in cases. Demonstrations in Melbourne about the lockdown. Even in Germany, who I personally believe have Made the best of this, people are demonstrating about the restrictions.
As has been said, clear divisions are becoming more evident. Tighter control over less control. Whichever way the government goes, there will be criticism. 

[DaisyHWanderer]

40 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

So why are they going for tests in the first place if they’ve no symptoms? Because someone they have been near has tested positive I assume?

Pretty much, agree with it or not it’s been going on all summer with people getting tests before holidays or due to potentially coming into contact with someone who has come into contact with someone etc. Etc..

[Guest]

37 minutes ago, Spider said:

I think the main fuck up was track and trace and the awarding of multi-million pound contracts to their donor buddies.

A virus hitting our crowded island is a fucking nightmare and people really need to take a look at themselves. Especially the tin foil hat cunts saying it’s made up/social control.

I wouldn’t envy any govt having to deal with this.

But, they could still have done better by reacting faster and not making out track and trace was world leading, because it’s absolute flamingo shit.

I get your criticisms, but I have different criticisms. As Carlos said earlier, very difficult to draw conclusions for a long time hence.

[Winchester White]

26 minutes ago, Spider said:

I think the main fuck up was track and trace and the awarding of multi-million pound contracts to their donor buddies.

A virus hitting our crowded island is a fucking nightmare and people really need to take a look at themselves. Especially the tin foil hat cunts saying it’s made up/social control.

I wouldn’t envy any govt having to deal with this.

But, they could still have done better by reacting faster and not making out track and trace was world leading, because it’s absolute flamingo shit.

This.

They have made some howlers like sticking by Cummings and T&T as well as some good things like furlough and getting testing ramped up.

Thing is, everything is all a bit haphazard with this Government and that is being kind. I know we all think Theresa May was rubbish by the end but I can't help but think if she was still in charge everything would have been clearer, more polished. Not that Cummings would have been near No10 without Boris but I can't help think she would have fired him on the spot.

[deane koontz]

13 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

This.

They have made some howlers like sticking by Cummings and T&T as well as some good things like furlough and getting testing ramped up.

Thing is, everything is all a bit haphazard with this Government and that is being kind. I know we all think Theresa May was rubbish by the end but I can't help but think if she was still in charge everything would have been clearer, more polished. Not that Cummings would have been near No10 without Boris but I can't help think she would have fired him on the spot.

 

 

It wouldn't have been that bad if he just held his hands and said he fucked up. Aye folk would have still called for his head but it ended up being an absolute farce topped off with all the synchronized tweets of support 😂

 

They lost a lot of folk with all that bollocks

[Rudy]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

The track and trace is terribly embarrassing, there is no way of dressing that mess up

Went in a pub few weeks back, woman asked if i could put  my name and  number in the book the previous punters were Harold Shipman, Fred West, Sir Jimmy Saville, all woth made up phone number I laughed and the landlady said oh it doesn’t matter stick anything we’re not gonna do anything with it.

Thats when I thought we’re fucked

[L/H White]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

You an expert in this virus then?

Yes

[Guest]

Mr Khan also said he hoped to be part of Tuesday's Cobra meeting but had not spoken to the prime minister since the last one on 10 May.

 

Can't blame Boris for not giving him house room, or even the time of day

[little whitt]

12 minutes ago, Rudy said:

Went in a pub few weeks back, woman asked if i could put  my name and  number in the book the previous punters were Harold Shipman, Fred West, Sir Jimmy Saville, all woth made up phone number I laughed and the landlady said oh it doesn’t matter stick anything we’re not gonna do anything with it.

Thats when I thought we’re fucked

🤣🤣🤣

[Guest]

Also, if we gt 300 deaths from 50,000 cases, it's not so bad compared to spring and well within the NHS's capacity.

The scientists are pulling our plonkers

[Escobarp]

1 hour ago, MickyD said:

Anything not wearing a red rosette wouldn’t figure as making a decent job for some though. A Labour government making exactly the same calls and decisions would, in the eyes of dyed in the wool socialists would be the right call every single time.

As someone said before. Starmer would run a mile if boris offered a snap election right now. 
 

Tories at their lowest ebb possible and labour would still avoid a GE.

[Spider]

13 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Also, if we gt 300 deaths from 50,000 cases, it's not so bad compared to spring and well within the NHS's capacity.

The scientists are pulling our plonkers

That’s per day.

Which means 9,000 dead in a month.

I wouldn’t want to be the one who sanctioned that as ok.

[gonzo]

if you’d told me six months ago that we’d be in the same place six months later because this government paid Deloitte and Serco millions for a testing and tracing system that doesn’t work, headed by one of their mates, i’d probably be like.... sounds about right

[leigh white]

4 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

As someone said before. Starmer would run a mile if boris offered a snap election right now. 
 

Tories at their lowest ebb possible and labour would still avoid a GE.

Why on earth would Labour want to inherit this shitshow ? It's the Tories baby, let them carry on.

[Escobarp]

3 minutes ago, leigh white said:

Why on earth would Labour want to inherit this shitshow ? It's the Tories baby, let them carry on.

Because they should be confident they can do better no? Otherwise what’s the point in them existing?

 

[leigh white]

2 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Because they should be confident they can do better no? Otherwise what’s the point in them existing?

 

The tories won the election, we got an oven ready brexit. Labour will bide their time.

[Escobarp]

Just now, leigh white said:

The tories won the election, we got an oven ready brexit. Labour will bide their time.

Thanks for proving my point. 

[leigh white]

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

Thanks for proving my point. 

Glad you're coming along to my way of thinking, all Labour have to do is watch this government tear itself apart and cruise the next election.

[Escobarp]

5 minutes ago, leigh white said:

Glad you're coming along to my way of thinking, all Labour have to do is watch this government tear itself apart and cruise the next election.

In reality they are showing themselves to be inept. The opposition sit by and let, what they and their deluded frothing supporters deem to be, the government running our country headlong into a disaster and economic ruin?
 

if you think that’s a positive then it’s a real shame. 

Edited September 21, 2020 by Escobarp

[peelyfeet]

33 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Also, if we gt 300 deaths from 50,000 cases, it's not so bad compared to spring and well within the NHS's capacity.

The scientists are pulling our plonkers

 If it gets to 50k cases a day in the timescale they've given, its not going to suddenly go down the next day, the rate has to slow and get below 1 first. 

We are in a period of acceleration now, cases are doubling every week, and hospitalisations are following a similar trend. Cases will continue to rise for the foreseable. If the new restrictions work, the rate of case growth will slow, but it's not going to happen overnight, especially if the restrictions are mild. Last time a large % of the population went from normal life to sitting indoors doing fuck all for a bit. That's not going to happen this time, at least not straight away.

Every bed taken by covid is a bed that could be used for something else. Every acute infection has the potential to cause  several weeks of ill health, its not just the covid deaths that take a toll on society, there's indirect costs, economy included.

[Cheese]

6 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

In reality they are showing themselves to be inept. The opposition sit by and let, what they and their deluded frothing supporters deem to be, the government running our country headlong into a disaster and economic ruin?
 

if you think that’s a positive then it’s a real shame. 

Unless Johnson DOES offer a Snap Election (which obviously isn't going to happen), then there's not much else the Opposition can do beyond trying to hold the Government to account in Parliament, which they seem to be doing. You talk as though Starmer has already been offered one, and turned it down.

Edited September 21, 2020 by Cheese

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Unless Johnson DOES offer a Snap Election (which obviously isn't going to happen), then there's not much else the Opposition can do beyond trying to hold the Government to account in Parliament, which they seem to be doing. You talk as though Starmer has already been offered one, and turned it down.

Where did I say he had turned one down? 

i was merely giving an opinion on what I believed would happen , in the highly unlikely event one was called. 
 

but then we had a labour supporter advising that they are happy for the government to lead the country forward into what they believe will be ruin, simply so that labour have a better chance of winning the next election? And yet you pick me up (incorrectly) on what I said? Strange that eh