Coronavirus

[Spider]

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

A lovely thread 

Boris and Dominic have so much  Russian cock up their arse that they can both be opened up a dozen times and smaller Boris’s and Dominic’s appear.

[Rudy]

6 minutes ago, Spider said:

Some of the figures they gave yesterday seem to contradict themselves (but @peelyfeet can probably set me straight)

they say only 8% of the population have had it, yet said 100k infections were probably happening daily during the peak. Let’s say that’s 50 days at the peak, that’s 5 million people. Add in another few million either side of the peak and that’s way more than 8%

Does smack of fearmongering, which isn’t their job.

Aye leave that to the good people of WW’s

[jules_darby]

The rhetoric is now WFH

But the pubs just shut at 10

its this garbled mixed message nonsense that is infuriating 

This govt are an absolute disgrace 

[gonzo]

1 minute ago, jules_darby said:

The rhetoric is now WFH

But the pubs just shut at 10

its this garbled mixed message nonsense that is infuriating 

This govt are an absolute disgrace 

Telling everyone to go back to work and eat out to help other week

[wiggy]

I’ll be kind and say that the government could have handled things better. But we are quickly reaching a point where a lot of people are seeing this as a game where they “win” if they can go against government advice on pretty much anything. We need the government and people working together on this. Can’t see any winners with the way this is going

[gonzo]

Ive said all along you cant trust the general public to 1 behave and 2 work out contradictory rules themselves.

The silly rules just wont get adhered to, pubs wont be suddenly empty at 10.01, nor will folk not just back to a kitchen somewhere. 

Like spider says, it has to be bold and decisive. In or out.

Either close the fuckers and pay them or keep them open as normal and let them make money.

Same for everywhere else. 

[Spider]

I can work. Gonzo can work. Jules can work. Casino can work.

So no furlough or support needed for us.

Traf clearly can’t work. Hospitality workers can’t work.

So support them until they can.

Its easy this.

[Zico]

2 hours ago, peelyfeet said:

Doubt it, but folk like this do. Thick. 

 

Some of the replies, fuck me

[Escobarp]

22 minutes ago, wiggy said:

I’ll be kind and say that the government could have handled things better. But we are quickly reaching a point where a lot of people are seeing this as a game where they “win” if they can go against government advice on pretty much anything. We need the government and people working together on this. Can’t see any winners with the way this is going

Spot on but I feel we reached that point a while back. For some it’s always been about that sadly. 

[Mounts Kipper]

No managed socially distanced football attending but crack on going to the pub and mixing as you please.

It’s clear to me pubs are the number 1 setting where folk will spread the virus. 

Edited September 22, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[L/H White]

11 minutes ago, Spider said:

I can work. Gonzo can work. Jules can work. Casino can work.

So no furlough or support needed for us.

Traf clearly can’t work. Hospitality workers can’t work.

So support them until they can.

Its easy this.

over 3.5bil in fraudulent furlough claims will put a stop to that

[Mounts Kipper]

1 minute ago, L/H White said:

over 3.5bil in fraudulent furlough claims will put a stop to that

Hope these folk get a short sharp prison sentence. 

[Ani]

Very surprised not more was made of the scientists saying a virus will be ready by end of the year and available for wide spread use in 2021 probably. 

[Rudy]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

Very surprised not more was made of the scientists saying a virus will be ready by end of the year and available for wide spread use in 2021 probably. 

One virus at a time Ani, Christ 

[Marc505]

6 minutes ago, Ani said:

Very surprised not more was made of the scientists saying a virus will be ready by end of the year and available for wide spread use in 2021 probably. 

Wheels are well and truly in motion, vulnerable groups will get it first though (I need to get my asthma officially diagnosed rather than guessed at by the doctor on a Zoom call!) and everyone else early next year.

Had a feeling it would be dropped in as a sweetner to some short term lockdown measures by the PM tonight, but it was mentioned yesterday instead.

[only1swanny]

Trying to get my head around this, I'm not certain if it's as I've had a bad nights sleep..

 

My lad was in contact with someone (asympomatic) on the Monday 7th of September, their first day back.. He's isolated for 14 days and we have taken turns. That means he should have gone back today? I've had a day off when i shouldn't have?

[Guest]

Suppression isn’t working too well, we need to look at other scientists.

Carl Heneghan seems to have clarity.

[gonzo]

Covid lollipops! 

Deffo the future.

[only1swanny]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

Some of the figures they gave yesterday seem to contradict themselves (but @peelyfeet can probably set me straight)

they say only 8% of the population have had it, yet said 100k infections were probably happening daily during the peak. Let’s say that’s 50 days at the peak, that’s 5 million people. Add in another few million either side of the peak and that’s way more than 8%

Does smack of fearmongering, which isn’t their job.

Population is 66 million, so 10% is 6.6 million

100k average a day for 50 days gives you 5 million, sounds about right from their figures, 

million either side gives you 7m so that's roughly 11%

 

It's not too far off, however I do wonder what they base their figures off, as the last time I saw figures banded about, it was based on Londoners having antibody tests and isn't a true reflection. 

 

We have kids coming back from Isolation this week, if there has been cases from the inner school contact, we haven't heard from them, which could mean either

a) it doesn't show in young people the same (we already know this to some extent)

b) It doesn't spread as easily as is made out by the media etc, but does spread more in continued contact. 

 

 

[Nowack]

22 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Hope these folk get a short sharp prison sentence. 

We certainly cannot afford that.

[Nowack]

11 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Carl Heneghan seems to support my world view - Edited for clarity

 

[Boby Brno]

33 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

No managed socially distanced football attending but crack on going to the pub and mixing as you please.

It’s clear to me pubs are the number 1 setting where folk will spread the virus. 

I’ve said previously that the pubs I went in handled it well. The restaurants also. Many didn’t and that is the problem. 
Heard a pub owner on the radio this morning saying that the 10pm curfew would ruin his business because that’s his busiest time. That’s the whole point though, busy pubs mean more chance of spreading the virus. The late curfew is common across Europe. If it works then it’s surely better than closing completely. 

[Mounts Kipper]

1 minute ago, Boby Brno said:

I’ve said previously that the pubs I went in handled it well. The restaurants also. Many didn’t and that is the problem. 
Heard a pub owner on the radio this morning saying that the 10pm curfew would ruin his business because that’s his busiest time. That’s the whole point though, busy pubs mean more chance of spreading the virus. The late curfew is common across Europe. If it works then it’s surely better than closing completely. 

I should of said some pubs, we’ve all seen them, rammed inside rammed outside, pubs where it’s service at table and table drinking only are fine, it’s the aforementioned type the problem. 

[bromers]

On 22/09/2020 at 00:00, Ani said:

Does anyone on here think this is something we should just ignore and let it work it’s way through ? 

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Edited January 24, 2021 by bromers

[gonzo]

3 pubs got shut in poulton. Word spread it was due to lack of social distancing and the likes. It wasnt. It was due to one girl working a shift in each pub who later tested positive. (Same fella owns all 3)

A baby shower was held in one of those pubs on sunday lunch with 6 people. One of them later tested postive and she was a teacher at a school in thornton. That led to to two year groups being sent home.