Guest Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 33 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Of course you would eventually run out of money We are spending money beyond our means at the same rate as we did in WW2 My point was, given a viable vaccine could be years away, what point would you draw a line and put the economy first To think that we could carry on like this forever with no impact on our ability to borrow and spend is for the birds I hope people are considering such matters behind the scenes. You can pander to the media and panic for a short while, but reality thinking needs to be to the fore soonish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Second isolation for my nipper. Over half term. Whole school year. Year 11, mocks in a couple of weeks This is fucking bollocks. Should get a request to test, get a negative then let them go back. Having a couple of hundred kids sat at home is absolute madness. This is the shit that's going to make people break the rules. Got to admit, I'm tempted to say I ain't received the email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Very little made of that it is returning, across most of Europe, as the season has changed. As happens every year with other viruses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peelyfeet Posted October 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2020 Appologies for not posting for a while. I've had enough of this site for bit, it's too political for me and unfortunatley I've got 3 old members of the family who caught this last week (all doing ok so far), which has put things into perspective for me, so this is my last post for a bit. Main things to remember are; Covid 19 is a mild illness for many, lasting less than a fortnight for most but according to ZOE; For 1 in 50 it can result in symptoms for more than 3 months and unfortunatley hospitalisation and death for some of those. 1 in 20 suffer symptoms for 8 weeks or more. This isn't what happens with seasonal flu. Hospitalisation and treatment saves lots of lives, without it many more of the 1 in 50 would die. Having large numbers of additional folk requiring help puts burden on the NHS, financially and logistically, which impacts on the % who die from all causes. In the Northern Hemisphere, The spread/hospitalisations/deaths is going to get worse before it gets much better, January is predicted to be the peak (unless we have a restrictions that flatten the numbers beforehand). The best way of reducing viral spread is by lifestyle changes and rigourous self isolation with symptoms / positive tests / suspected infected. Aerosol spread is one of the main forms of transmission - the virus can hang in the air for hours in poorly ventilated areas - staying 2 meters away from folk is good practice but if you spend any length of time indoors without a mask on, in areas where multiple people have already breathed, your chance of catching the virus rises, a lot. "Covid Secure" premises and social distancing practices don't prevent transmission, they simply reduce the perceived chance of catching the virus - if you want to reduce the chance further, don't go in the building in question, do stuff outside, reduce the number of people you come into contact with (directly and indirectly) things to do Vitamin D, Zinc good Sleep lose weight if fat avoid crowded indoor areas without masks reduce travel get the windows open the most likley place you are going to catch this, is in your house, from someone who's caught it in an indoor area in the community. Ignore the bullshit from both sides, the media is full of cranks, shock jocks who care about advertising revenue, want to sell books, people who have a selfish interets in the latest restriction impact / political axe to grind. Fauci, Sage, Whitty and Valance, Van Tam, Dr John Campbell, Tim Spector are examples of folk who change their advice with the emergence of new data, this shows they are trustworthy in my book. The economy will recover ultimatley, it always does to some extent, it's not going to be good for many but it will get better. Less Viral spread = better economy. see you in a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 27, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Appologies for not posting for a while. I've had enough of this site for bit, it's too political for me and unfortunatley I've got 3 old members of the family who caught this last week (all doing ok so far), which has put things into perspective for me, so this is my last post for a bit. Main things to remember are; Covid 19 is a mild illness for many, lasting less than a fortnight for most but according to ZOE; For 1 in 50 it can result in symptoms for more than 3 months and unfortunatley hospitalisation and death for some of those. 1 in 20 suffer symptoms for 8 weeks or more. This isn't what happens with seasonal flu. Hospitalisation and treatment saves lots of lives, without it many more of the 1 in 50 would die. Having large numbers of additional folk requiring help puts burden on the NHS, financially and logistically, which impacts on the % who die from all causes. In the Northern Hemisphere, The spread/hospitalisations/deaths is going to get worse before it gets much better, January is predicted to be the peak (unless we have a restrictions that flatten the numbers beforehand). The best way of reducing viral spread is by lifestyle changes and rigourous self isolation with symptoms / positive tests / suspected infected. Aerosol spread is one of the main forms of transmission - the virus can hang in the air for hours in poorly ventilated areas - staying 2 meters away from folk is good practice but if you spend any length of time indoors without a mask on, in areas where multiple people have already breathed, your chance of catching the virus rises, a lot. "Covid Secure" premises and social distancing practices don't prevent transmission, they simply reduce the perceived chance of catching the virus - if you want to reduce the chance further, don't go in the building in question, do stuff outside, reduce the number of people you come into contact with (directly and indirectly) things to do Vitamin D, Zinc good Sleep lose weight if fat avoid crowded indoor areas without masks reduce travel get the windows open the most likley place you are going to catch this, is in your house, from someone who's caught it in an indoor area in the community. Ignore the bullshit from both sides, the media is full of cranks, shock jocks who care about advertising revenue, want to sell books, people who have a selfish interets in the latest restriction impact / political axe to grind. Fauci, Sage, Whitty and Valance, Van Tam, Dr John Campbell, Tim Spector are examples of folk who change their advice with the emergence of new data, this shows they are trustworthy in my book. The economy will recover ultimatley, it always does to some extent, it's not going to be good for many but it will get better. Less Viral spread = better economy. see you in a few weeks. Good luck mate, hope your family make speedy recoveries. Come back soon, your balance and calm approach are much needed on here (I’m guilty of being a cunt just like most others) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Fauci, Sage, Whitty and Valance, Van Tam, Dr John Campbell, Tim Spector are examples of folk who change their advice with the emergence of new data, this shows they are trustworthy in my book. Is the right answer! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Appologies for not posting for a while. I've had enough of this site for bit, it's too political for me and unfortunatley I've got 3 old members of the family who caught this last week (all doing ok so far), which has put things into perspective for me, so this is my last post for a bit. Main things to remember are; Covid 19 is a mild illness for many, lasting less than a fortnight for most but according to ZOE; For 1 in 50 it can result in symptoms for more than 3 months and unfortunatley hospitalisation and death for some of those. 1 in 20 suffer symptoms for 8 weeks or more. This isn't what happens with seasonal flu. Hospitalisation and treatment saves lots of lives, without it many more of the 1 in 50 would die. Having large numbers of additional folk requiring help puts burden on the NHS, financially and logistically, which impacts on the % who die from all causes. In the Northern Hemisphere, The spread/hospitalisations/deaths is going to get worse before it gets much better, January is predicted to be the peak (unless we have a restrictions that flatten the numbers beforehand). The best way of reducing viral spread is by lifestyle changes and rigourous self isolation with symptoms / positive tests / suspected infected. Aerosol spread is one of the main forms of transmission - the virus can hang in the air for hours in poorly ventilated areas - staying 2 meters away from folk is good practice but if you spend any length of time indoors without a mask on, in areas where multiple people have already breathed, your chance of catching the virus rises, a lot. "Covid Secure" premises and social distancing practices don't prevent transmission, they simply reduce the perceived chance of catching the virus - if you want to reduce the chance further, don't go in the building in question, do stuff outside, reduce the number of people you come into contact with (directly and indirectly) things to do Vitamin D, Zinc good Sleep lose weight if fat avoid crowded indoor areas without masks reduce travel get the windows open the most likley place you are going to catch this, is in your house, from someone who's caught it in an indoor area in the community. Ignore the bullshit from both sides, the media is full of cranks, shock jocks who care about advertising revenue, want to sell books, people who have a selfish interets in the latest restriction impact / political axe to grind. Fauci, Sage, Whitty and Valance, Van Tam, Dr John Campbell, Tim Spector are examples of folk who change their advice with the emergence of new data, this shows they are trustworthy in my book. The economy will recover ultimatley, it always does to some extent, it's not going to be good for many but it will get better. Less Viral spread = better economy. see you in a few weeks. All the best to you and your family members Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Appologies for not posting for a while. I've had enough of this site for bit, it's too political for me and unfortunatley I've got 3 old members of the family who caught this last week (all doing ok so far), which has put things into perspective for me, so this is my last post for a bit. Main things to remember are; Covid 19 is a mild illness for many, lasting less than a fortnight for most but according to ZOE; For 1 in 50 it can result in symptoms for more than 3 months and unfortunatley hospitalisation and death for some of those. 1 in 20 suffer symptoms for 8 weeks or more. This isn't what happens with seasonal flu. Hospitalisation and treatment saves lots of lives, without it many more of the 1 in 50 would die. Having large numbers of additional folk requiring help puts burden on the NHS, financially and logistically, which impacts on the % who die from all causes. In the Northern Hemisphere, The spread/hospitalisations/deaths is going to get worse before it gets much better, January is predicted to be the peak (unless we have a restrictions that flatten the numbers beforehand). The best way of reducing viral spread is by lifestyle changes and rigourous self isolation with symptoms / positive tests / suspected infected. Aerosol spread is one of the main forms of transmission - the virus can hang in the air for hours in poorly ventilated areas - staying 2 meters away from folk is good practice but if you spend any length of time indoors without a mask on, in areas where multiple people have already breathed, your chance of catching the virus rises, a lot. "Covid Secure" premises and social distancing practices don't prevent transmission, they simply reduce the perceived chance of catching the virus - if you want to reduce the chance further, don't go in the building in question, do stuff outside, reduce the number of people you come into contact with (directly and indirectly) things to do Vitamin D, Zinc good Sleep lose weight if fat avoid crowded indoor areas without masks reduce travel get the windows open the most likley place you are going to catch this, is in your house, from someone who's caught it in an indoor area in the community. Ignore the bullshit from both sides, the media is full of cranks, shock jocks who care about advertising revenue, want to sell books, people who have a selfish interets in the latest restriction impact / political axe to grind. Fauci, Sage, Whitty and Valance, Van Tam, Dr John Campbell, Tim Spector are examples of folk who change their advice with the emergence of new data, this shows they are trustworthy in my book. The economy will recover ultimatley, it always does to some extent, it's not going to be good for many but it will get better. Less Viral spread = better economy. see you in a few weeks. Take it easy peely and best wishes to all your family. See you back On here soon 👍🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 hour ago, peelyfeet said: Appologies for not posting for a while. I've had enough of this site for bit, it's too political for me and unfortunatley I've got 3 old members of the family who caught this last week (all doing ok so far), which has put things into perspective for me, so this is my last post for a bit. Main things to remember are; Covid 19 is a mild illness for many, lasting less than a fortnight for most but according to ZOE; For 1 in 50 it can result in symptoms for more than 3 months and unfortunatley hospitalisation and death for some of those. 1 in 20 suffer symptoms for 8 weeks or more. This isn't what happens with seasonal flu. Hospitalisation and treatment saves lots of lives, without it many more of the 1 in 50 would die. Having large numbers of additional folk requiring help puts burden on the NHS, financially and logistically, which impacts on the % who die from all causes. In the Northern Hemisphere, The spread/hospitalisations/deaths is going to get worse before it gets much better, January is predicted to be the peak (unless we have a restrictions that flatten the numbers beforehand). The best way of reducing viral spread is by lifestyle changes and rigourous self isolation with symptoms / positive tests / suspected infected. Aerosol spread is one of the main forms of transmission - the virus can hang in the air for hours in poorly ventilated areas - staying 2 meters away from folk is good practice but if you spend any length of time indoors without a mask on, in areas where multiple people have already breathed, your chance of catching the virus rises, a lot. "Covid Secure" premises and social distancing practices don't prevent transmission, they simply reduce the perceived chance of catching the virus - if you want to reduce the chance further, don't go in the building in question, do stuff outside, reduce the number of people you come into contact with (directly and indirectly) things to do Vitamin D, Zinc good Sleep lose weight if fat avoid crowded indoor areas without masks reduce travel get the windows open the most likley place you are going to catch this, is in your house, from someone who's caught it in an indoor area in the community. Ignore the bullshit from both sides, the media is full of cranks, shock jocks who care about advertising revenue, want to sell books, people who have a selfish interets in the latest restriction impact / political axe to grind. Fauci, Sage, Whitty and Valance, Van Tam, Dr John Campbell, Tim Spector are examples of folk who change their advice with the emergence of new data, this shows they are trustworthy in my book. The economy will recover ultimatley, it always does to some extent, it's not going to be good for many but it will get better. Less Viral spread = better economy. see you in a few weeks. Good to hear from you, pity it’s a fleeting visit! A la prochaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 27, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2020 Deaths has crept up a fair bit today. Hospitals creaking here and there. What’s the verdict? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 27, 2020 Moderators Share Posted October 27, 2020 That hospitals always creak in winter? If the measures put in place were thought to be sufficient, we need to sit tight and give them time to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, Spider said: Deaths has crept up a fair bit today. Aye, 367 deaths, that's not good, let's just hope it doesn't keep rising and starts to tail off in a couple of weeks when the current restrictions will hopefully be taking effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 27, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2020 We’re 9th out of 315 authorities in England. Evatt Out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted October 27, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Spider said: We’re 9th out of 315 authorities in England. Evatt Out You (or someone else) has posted this previously. What happens to 12-40 and all the other missing places? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Just doing some kind of antibody test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, MickyD said: You (or someone else) has posted this previously. What happens to 12-40 and all the other missing places? Is this a wind up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 How long are we giving it before there's a proper lockdown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 27, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2020 Just now, deane koontz said: How long are we giving it before there's a proper lockdown? Tier 4 in 3 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 27, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2020 21 minutes ago, MickyD said: You (or someone else) has posted this previously. What happens to 12-40 and all the other missing places? You have to click on the images to see the full versions, you silly sausage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted October 27, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2020 44 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Is this a wind up? Yes, ha ha, good one, eh? Gone fishing, etc. No, I don’t do twitter so just viewed the pics on WW rather than going to the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Just now, MickyD said: Yes, ha ha, good one, eh? Gone fishing, etc. No, I don’t do twitter so just viewed the pics on WW rather than going to the link. I genuinely wasn’t sure and didn’t want to offer a solution unless it would have caused derision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted October 27, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Escobarp said: I genuinely wasn’t sure and didn’t want to offer a solution unless it would have caused derision Hey, my skin is thick as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Just now, MickyD said: Hey, my skin is thick as fuck. It was mine I was thinking of 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boby Brno Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Clutching at straws maybe but the rate of increase in new cases isn’t as great as it was last week. The increase in deaths will be a lag from when the rate was higher. Come back Peely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Boby Brno said: Clutching at straws maybe but the rate of increase in new cases isn’t as great as it was last week. The increase in deaths will be a lag from when the rate was higher. Come back Peely. Too political, it seems.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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