radcliffe white Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 It really is shit so many businesses have spent time & money making places Covid safe and could possibly be told to close again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 8 hours ago, mickbrown said: Test marketing. On a national scale. That and they are cunts Will it be too late or too soon this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Wearing masks didn’t work, then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Wearing masks didn’t work, then I guess we'll never really know. It doesn't hurt anybody or cause any problems, so it doesn't really matter either way. For what it's worth, I suspect we'll be expected to be wearing masks, as we are now, for at lest the next twelve months no matter what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Sweep said: I guess we'll never really know. It doesn't hurt anybody or cause any problems, so it doesn't really matter either way. For what it's worth, I suspect we'll be expected to be wearing masks, as we are now, for at lest the next twelve months no matter what happens Yes, at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Mental health cases will increase Suicide will increase Cancer deaths will increase Unemployment will increase Poverty will increase Business bankruptcy will increase What won’t happen: virus disappearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Wearing masks didn’t work, then As a single method to control the virus? Did anyone say it would? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 31, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2020 Operation Hibernation being given the half arsed treatment again. We need to look at China, not Sweden, for the biggest clue on how to deal with it. 3 weeks to plan 3 weeks to execute Merry xmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just now, Tombwfc said: As a single method to control the virus? Did anyone say it would? No, I'm not sure anybody did. I think it had helped keep the number down, but I guess some, like BD don't think it's made much of a difference. As I said above, we'll never really know either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted October 31, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2020 Lockdown didn’t work last time and it won’t work now. The virus is shit, yes it’s getting out of control but we have to live through it as safely as possible. Locking down will cause far more problems than it will solve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 13 minutes ago, Spider said: Operation Hibernation being given the half arsed treatment again. We need to look at China, not Sweden, for the biggest clue on how to deal with it. 3 weeks to plan 3 weeks to execute Merry xmas Agreed. Invent the virus and have a vaccine ready to go once the rest of the world collapses. Not as daft as they look the kitchen sinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 31, 2020 Author Members Share Posted October 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said: Lockdown didn’t work last time and it won’t work now. The virus is shit, yes it’s getting out of control but we have to live through it as safely as possible. Locking down will cause far more problems than it will solve. Think it’s more to stop the hospitals getting overwhelmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said: Lockdown didn’t work last time and it won’t work now. The virus is shit, yes it’s getting out of control but we have to live through it as safely as possible. Locking down will cause far more problems than it will solve. It absolutely did work in reducing the rate of infection. Whether or not we should or shouldn't lock down is another matter, but it did do what it was intended to do - reduce transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 31, 2020 Author Members Share Posted October 31, 2020 I hope GAME is an essential shop, PS5 comes on in 3 weeks. Dont take the piss Boris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: It absolutely did work in reducing the rate of infection. Whether or not we should or shouldn't lock down is another matter, but it did do what it was intended to do - reduce transmission. It didn’t “absolutely” That isn’t a fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Best get my haircut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Tombwfc said: Why? It's been asked and answered on a daily basis for the past eight months. If you need still to ask it at this point, nothing I say is going to stop you asking it again in a months time. 66,000 excess deaths in the year to date. Hospitals filling up and deaths rising in sync with positive cases. It's a fucking massive coincidence if it's not COVID making people ill. If you look back at previous pandemics over the past 50 years then when you have a lot of excess deaths in one year the following years tend to be much lower I believe they tend to look at a 5 year rolling average for the measure Thus, if you ended up with 500k excess deaths this year then the likelihood is that the next 4 years would be significantly below average and the 5 year rolling excess deaths figure would be much lower than 500k The average Covid death is 82, already beyond life expectancy (81) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 31, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2020 50 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Wearing masks didn’t work, then Non wearing didn't. But there not only aerosol transmission. Too many forget about touching contaminated surfaces, including potentially the outer surface of a mask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwen_white Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 ^ I read somewhere, that if 7 people in their 90s get covid, 6 will make a full recovery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 And everyone took the piss when I'm.out Xmas shopping.... Last shop today and then I'm done. Boom, as they say. Bring on that lockdown, makes bog all difference to me at the moment, no family nearby, friends all over London so will see them when we can as we did over summer. If it saves Xmas and means my.mum and dad might have half a chance to get down for Xmas day, I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: Non wearing didn't. But there not only aerosol transmission. Too many forget about touching contaminated surfaces, including potentially the outer surface of a mask. Apparently surface transmission was grossly overstated at the beginning, as they didn't know, like touching a surface when someone has a cold isn't a huge thing. Aerosol transmission for a high viral load is the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwen_white Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Non wearing didn't. But there not only aerosol transmission. Too many forget about touching contaminated surfaces, including potentially the outer surface of a mask. In the pubs; mask on to the table, mask on table, mask on to toilet, back from the toilet, mask on table. Repeat to fade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Makes me wonder if we should have gone down a road of having a serious of much shorter / stricter lockdowns with solid periods of business as usual in between I.e 10 weeks business as usual, 3 weeks lockdown (Vulnerable groups potentially start their lockdown a week or two earlier) shorter harsher lockdowns would hopefully flatten the curve enough with businesses and the economy hopefully able to pick the lost revenue in the between period If a system / rhythm could have been agreed across the continent it would have meant things like the travel industry weren’t so badly effected When I say business as usual you’d still wear masks and follow other measures that aren’t detrimental to the economy Going late and then having a 3 month lockdown put pay to that as a viable option though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted October 31, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2020 Would be people police themselves better if the NHS was over stretched to the point they couldn’t accept any more patients through Covid? Absolutely. i maintain it didn’t work last time - it bought time for Covid but it hasn’t worked. How many of these excess deaths are down to cancer, dementia etc that otherwise would have been treated, slowed etc. My opinion, and if I’m on my own here, still doesn’t make me wrong or right - but we are going far too overboard trying to sort 1 illness but letting many more run riot unchecked. The balance is way out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) More lies, as if they didn't leak it themselves Edited October 31, 2020 by L/H White Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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