Guest Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 34 minutes ago, gonzo said: My old mans back operation been bought forward to 21 December. My Mum is in for radiotherapy today. Do we have to isolate coming out of hospital nowdays? Might they vaccinate him whilst he’s in as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 17, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 17, 2020 34 minutes ago, gonzo said: My old mans back operation been bought forward to 21 December. My Mum is in for radiotherapy today. Do we have to isolate coming out of hospital nowdays? I'd make sure they get tested at least if they want to be sure Most i know who caught it got it in hospital going in for something else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Might they vaccinate him whilst he’s in as well? Good idea 👍 @ZicoKelly @dave2980 yeah hopefully the hospital have it covered, was just making sure. My dad will have us wheeling him over to the eagle om xmas day otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 5 hours ago, birch-chorley said: Restrictions are being relaxed for 4 or 5 days, when I say relaxed it’s hardly a free for all is it Meanwhile the vast majority of building sites that have been open throughout (even during lockdown 1) will be shut Most other factories and workplaces that have been open throughout will also be closed Schools, nurseries and colleges that have been open for months will be shut The transport system that’s been open all the way through will be closed for at least two days, with very few travellers on the other days Supermarkets will be closed for the first day since Easter Sunday Non essential shops will be shut at least for Xmas day, most on Boxing Day also The vast majority of pubs and restaurants won’t be open at all Yet 3 households mixing for a few days will cause thousands more infections than the previous week when a lot of the above was open? Complete bollocks if you ask me! I don't think that logic holds water. You can carry the virus for over a week, so workplaces being shut for a couple of days won't make much difference in stopping that transmission. What you're adding is a mass of people moving to different parts of the country to stay at close quarters with folk who don't live with them. And then travelling back home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2020 Well???? What fucking tier are we in? This government springs more leaks than kerplunk but suddenly they clam up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: I don't think that logic holds water. You can carry the virus for over a week, so workplaces being shut for a couple of days won't make much difference in stopping that transmission. What you're adding is a mass of people moving to different parts of the country to stay at close quarters with folk who don't live with them. And then travelling back home. I don’t think your logic holds water Its literally a couple of days where a hell of a lot of points of transmission will be closed, it should more than off set the additional transmission in home by a couple of bubbles merging It’s a sample of 1 but in my bubble me and the wife work from home, our two kids go into nursery every day and mix with 50 others without any social distancing (under 4 you have no chance). Our support bubble includes my Mum and sister (live together), both teaching assistants at different schools mixing with hundreds of kids every day. For 4 days over Xmas we will mix with another bubble. On the whole our interactions are massively reduced as schools and nursery’s are closed. If you apply the same thinking I’m sure many households will be in the same boat, especially if kids are involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Spider said: Well???? What fucking tier are we in? This government springs more leaks than kerplunk but suddenly they clam up. Ive got pub chains and a gazillion hotels waiting on announcement. The whole hospitality industry waiting to order barrells of beer and turkeys by the lorry load. What complete fuck up this all is. This decision shoulve been made a week ago at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted December 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2020 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/17/world/europe/britain-covid-contracts.html There should be jail time for such corruption Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Spider said: Well???? What fucking tier are we in? This government springs more leaks than kerplunk but suddenly they clam up. Burnham seems to be setting the narrative of Greater Manchester being split again, citing Tameside, Stockport and Trafford as being much lower than the rest. The cynic in me says they'll leave it as late as possible, stick the whole of GM in to tier 2 as our "reward" but leaves fuck all time for any businesses to take advantage, whilst simultaneously removing any commitment of Government support. 1 minute ago, gonzo said: Ive got pub chains and a gazillion hotels waiting on announcement. The whole hospitality industry waiting to order barrells of beer and turkeys by the lorry load. What complete fuck up this all is. This decision shoulve been made a week ago at least. I'm in the camp of waiting to see whether I've got to deal with a 2,000 football crowd this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: I don’t think your logic holds water Its literally a couple of days where a hell of a lot of points of transmission will be closed, it should more than off set the additional transmission in home by a couple of bubbles merging It’s a sample of 1 but in my bubble me and the wife work from home, our two kids go into nursery every day and mix with 50 others without any social distancing (under 4 you have no chance). Our support bubble includes my Mum and sister (live together), both teaching assistants at different schools mixing with hundreds of kids every day. For 4 days over Xmas we will mix with another bubble. On the whole our interactions are massively reduced as schools and nursery’s are closed. If you apply the same thinking I’m sure many households will be in the same boat, especially if kids are involved. There's a reason the quarantine period is 10 days and not five or lower. Anyone who was has it on the 24th when their workplace closes will still have it when they go back in on the 27th. There's no transmission being broken there. It's not offsetting anything. Pick a bubble and all quarantine together for a mandatory 10 days, would fit with what your saying. But it isn't that - you can travel length of the country, stay a couple of nights with two extra households, then travel back and head into work the next day. There's no way that's doing anything other than aiding the spread of the virus. Edited December 17, 2020 by Tombwfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 MEN saying no changes in tiers to be made just minor alterations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, radcliffewhite1 said: MEN saying no changes in tiers to be made just minor alterations Peston on TV last night suggested that nobody would be "going down" in Tiers, with the most likely thing that people stay as they are, or get pushed up from T2 to T3 I've said it a few times, I reckon we'll pretty much all be in T3, I can't see anybody even being allowed to stay in T2, and that'll last until around 6th January, before they review again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, gonzo said: Ive got pub chains and a gazillion hotels waiting on announcement. The whole hospitality industry waiting to order barrells of beer and turkeys by the lorry load. What complete fuck up this all is. This decision shoulve been made a week ago at least. Can’t see Lancashire changing. What’s happening to Lancashire & greater manchester is shocking, especially while Liverpool is in tier 2. Edited December 17, 2020 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 If they said Tier 3. But football can have fans in. Happy ? Or not ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 17, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, gonzo said: Good idea 👍 @ZicoKelly @dave2980 yeah hopefully the hospital have it covered, was just making sure. My dad will have us wheeling him over to the eagle om xmas day otherwise yeah, the last few months have taught me not to rely on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, Ani said: If they said Tier 3. But football can have fans in. Happy ? Or not ?? No, should be tier 2 unless hospitals are struggling to cope. Burnham & Lancashire leader should have been fighting for tier 2, Burnham was asking for tier 3 recently, utter tit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted December 17, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ani said: If they said Tier 3. But football can have fans in. Happy ? Or not ?? No, football needs beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2020 Some parts of Lancashire have rising numbers again unfortunately. Could be worse, could be in Germany.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, Sweep said: Peston on TV last night suggested that nobody would be "going down" in Tiers, with the most likely thing that people stay as they are, or get pushed up from T2 to T3 I've said it a few times, I reckon we'll pretty much all be in T3, I can't see anybody even being allowed to stay in T2, and that'll last until around 6th January, before they review again. Is that the next review 6th jan? just breaking news tier 3 Manchester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Is that the next review 6th jan? just breaking news tier 3 Manchester Burnham did make a decent suggestion earlier- use some of this returned supermarket tax rebate to fund pubs etc in tier 3 more fully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Burnham did make a decent suggestion earlier- use some of this returned supermarket tax rebate to fund pubs etc in tier 3 more fully. Maybe too late for some but yes good shout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 34 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: No, should be tier 2 unless hospitals are struggling to cope. Burnham & Lancashire leader should have been fighting for tier 2, Burnham was asking for tier 3 recently, utter tit. Aye, it's Burnham who's your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Is that the next review 6th jan? just breaking news tier 3 Manchester That's just my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 17, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 17, 2020 So loosening London has fucked over the North Anybody still buying this bullshit, have fun with it Iamout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Casino said: So loosening London has fucked over the North Anybody still buying this bullshit, have fun with it Iamout it’s utter bollocks has been for a long long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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